hello,
Installed Debian Bullseye with trinity Desktop on a Laptop 64bits.
Without TDM, this is : starting the XWindows trinity desktop form bash with the startx command, there is no problem, I can start various Desktops using Ctrl+Alt+Fx, where x is 1, 2, 3,....
If i enable TDM, i can only strat one session from TDM, keyboarding CXtrl+Alt+F1, i get the computer's starting log, with F2 or 3,..., i get a blank screen.
On my i386 PC, i don't have the problem : with TDM installed, i still can access multiscreen desktop starts, for various users and also root login.
Any hint ?
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Anno domini 2021 Sat, 11 Sep 12:28:43 +0200 mb850063@proximus.be scripsit:
hello,
Installed Debian Bullseye with trinity Desktop on a Laptop 64bits.
Without TDM, this is : starting the XWindows trinity desktop form bash with the startx command, there is no problem, I can start various Desktops using Ctrl+Alt+Fx, where x is 1, 2, 3,....
If i enable TDM, i can only strat one session from TDM, keyboarding CXtrl+Alt+F1, i get the computer's starting log, with F2 or 3,..., i get a blank screen.
On my i386 PC, i don't have the problem : with TDM installed, i still can access multiscreen desktop starts, for various users and also root login.
Any hint ?
This is how X is supposed to work. Without XDM, you can do whatever you like. With any XDM/TDM/..., you have by default exactly one *DM which starts one X session (whatever that may be). When you configure your computer for multiseat/multimonitor/whatever, you can have multiple *DM managing different sets of hardware resources.
So if you want conlole by default and no *DM, then don't install (or unistall) *DM adn you'll be fine :)
Nik
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On Saturday 11 September 2021 05:36:41 am Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Anno domini 2021 Sat, 11 Sep 12:28:43 +0200 mb850063@proximus.be scripsit:
Without TDM, this is : starting the XWindows trinity desktop form bash with the startx command, there is no problem, I can start various Desktops using Ctrl+Alt+Fx, where x is 1, 2, 3,....
If i enable TDM, i can only strat one session from TDM, keyboarding CXtrl+Alt+F1, i get the computer's starting log, with F2 or 3,..., i get a blank screen.
On my i386 PC, i don't have the problem : with TDM installed, i still can access multiscreen desktop starts, for various users and also root login.
Any hint ?
This is how X is supposed to work. Without XDM, you can do whatever you like. With any XDM/TDM/..., you have by default exactly one *DM which starts one X session (whatever that may be). When you configure your computer for multiseat/multimonitor/whatever, you can have multiple *DM managing different sets of hardware resources.
So if you want conlole by default and no *DM, then don't install (or unistall) *DM adn you'll be fine :)
You’d have to get one of the dev’s to answer why your i386 can do it. (also they’ll probably need to know what the i386 is running for OS, the different DE versions, and if it had some special setup?)
Doing multiscreen desktop starts is somewhat risky based on having multiple of the same user accessing the same files and potentially corrupting or overwriting them (or just having the annoyance of not being able to save an edit if decent file locking is in place). [Probably having TDE and KDE installed at the same time would cause further disruption as I’m not exactly sure TDE still doesn’t use some files in the KDE name space? Again, that’d need to be answered by a TDE dev.]
multi desktop starts is also generally used with multiple graphics cards (and monitors) for something like a multi-user server. And generally in that case there is some logic added to logins such that a user can only login once at any given time. That went away years/decades ago though as it’s a pita and thin client front ends became cheap. (Actually, based upon wife’s work, I’m not sure that thin clients are used anymore, corps seem to just dump a full up PC on a desk and use a central server for file storage.)
no real help really, just some background, best, Michael
On 2021-09-11 05:28:43 mb850063@proximus.be wrote:
hello,
Installed Debian Bullseye with trinity Desktop on a Laptop 64bits.
Without TDM, this is : starting the XWindows trinity desktop form bash with the startx command, there is no problem, I can start various Desktops using Ctrl+Alt+Fx, where x is 1, 2, 3,....
If i enable TDM, i can only strat one session from TDM, keyboarding CXtrl+Alt+F1, i get the computer's starting log, with F2 or 3,..., i get a blank screen.
On my i386 PC, i don't have the problem : with TDM installed, i still can access multiscreen desktop starts, for various users and also root login.
Any hint ?
For a long time (at least on my distro), ttys 2--6 have been reserved for non-GUI logins; 7... for GUI. Assuming your first GUI is already active on 7, you might try Ctrl+Alt+F8 and see what you get. Also, try right-clicking on the desktop and choosing Switch User => Start New Session from your first GUI.
Leslie -- Operating System: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.3 x86_64 Desktop Environment: Trinity Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.0.10 tde-config: 1.0
On Saturday, 11. September 2021, mb850063@proximus.be wrote:
hello,
Installed Debian Bullseye with trinity Desktop on a Laptop 64bits.
Without TDM, this is : starting the XWindows trinity desktop form bash with the startx command, there is no problem, I can start various Desktops using Ctrl+Alt+Fx, where x is 1, 2, 3,....
If i enable TDM, i can only strat one session from TDM, keyboarding CXtrl+Alt+F1, i get the computer's starting log, with F2 or 3,..., i get a blank screen.
On my i386 PC, i don't have the problem : with TDM installed, i still can access multiscreen desktop starts, for various users and also root login.
Any hint ?
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Hi, I have solved this problem with a modified tdm.service systemd script on ubuntu 16.04 and 20.04. If you copy it in the folder /etc/systemd/system/ it overides the distributed script. Mainly there are some startup conditions mising in the distributed script, with prevent the console startup.
Best Stef
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Hi, I have solved this problem with a modified tdm.service systemd script on ubuntu 16.04 and 20.04. If you copy it in the folder /etc/systemd/system/ it overides the distributed script. Mainly there are some startup conditions mising in the distributed script, with prevent the console startup.
Best Stef
The tdm.service script has been recently updated, so make sure you test with the latest one first. R14.0.11 still has the old version of the script, so if you want the latest you need to get it from here: https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tdebase/src/branch/master/td... Pick the tdm.service file that belongs to your distro. Cheers Michele
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