New subject: Konqueror & FAT32

16 Jan 2021

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Anno domini 2021 Sat, 16 Jan 21:46:46 +0100
 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp scripsit:
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Hi all!
Anno domini 2021 Sat, 16 Jan 14:57:00 -0500
 BorgLabs - Kate Draven scripsit:
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On Saturday 16 January 2021 11:19:51 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
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On Saturday 16 January 2021 09:46:12 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> Hi all!
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> I just found that after my latest updates to 14.0.10 I lost the
> "Delete" funtionality in konqueror. When I do a right click on
at file
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> on a FAT32 usb thumbdrive, then the context menu pops up with
the
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> "Delete" entry greyed out. Pressing "<DEL>"-key consequently des
not
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> delete the file nor move it to the thrashcan.
Pressing "<shift>+<DEL>"
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> deletes the file.
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> Does somebody else see this, too?
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> Nik
I just upgraded a couple days ago, and I don't have that problem.
Everything works the same as before.
The problem, however, may reside in the flash drive itself, and
the
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fat32
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filesystem. I've had problems with both flash drives and SD cards:
sometimes they mount and behave normally, sometimes not. Do you
have the
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delete function when you are using Konqueror with non-fat drives,
such
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your
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hard drives?
You might dig up your konquerorrc file, where the delete function
can be
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set or unset. You might be able to override other changes by
changing
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that file.
Bill
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I need to use fat32 because I still have some itsinks clients
(thankfully
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that's fading)
Stock formatted usb and SD cards do exhibit problems like that in
general.
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That's why I always format them with linux before use. I never have
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problem after that.
NTFS, when I have to use that crap, sometimes will. HFS doesn't give
me
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much of a problem, less than NTFS more than fat32.
Try clean formatting the drives before use and make use you chown to
your
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user just in case.
Kate
Except ... maybe users need to use those items with other devices that
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read Linux filesystems? e.g., SD cards in smartphones, or flash drives
to be
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used with other computers. Maybe, the unfortunate user is forced by
job or
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circumstances to take those flash drives or SD cards and use them on 
[*SHUDDER of horror*] Windozes or Rotten Apples? In such cases, fat32
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read
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by all of them; ext3 or ext4, not.
'Twould be nice if Linux could handle fat32 sometimes without having
to
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format
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it to a Linux filesystem.
:-/
Bill
You misunderstood. Format the drives, using linux, TO fat32. They will
work on
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windows and apple [*SHUDDER of horror*] etc. It's just that linux does 
a "clean" format with no empty  spaces or oddities.
Kate
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Sorry to say, neither does work. I tried it as "superdisk" or with one
partion, the result is the same - "Move to trash" is greyed out and <DEL> 
does not work (<shift>+<DEL> does work).
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I tried ext4, too, with the very same behaviour, so it's not filesystem
specific. File creation works without problems.
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What's also strange: the konqeror is not notified about changes on that
filesystem, e.g. if I create a new file it is not visible in konqueror till I 
press "F5".
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Oh, I have "udisks2" as helper.
Ok, in konqueror settings, tab "behaviour" --> "show delete entry (no
trash)". if this is checked, I get a "Delete" entry in the context menu. This 
still does not enable "<del>"-key, but for the "usual" user it's ok.
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Interestingly I cannot identify the corresponding setting
in .trinity/share/config/konquerorrc
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Nik
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Nik
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" What's also strange: the konqeror is not notified about changes on that 
filesystem, e.g. if I create a new file it is not visible in konqueror till I 
press "F5"."
When is the last time you rebooted X or the entire computer?
I'd reboot the computer. The F5 thing happens after a large update (at least 
in my exp). Try a reboot.
Kate

Re: Konqueror & FAT32