4 Sep
2020
4 Sep
'20
9:34 a.m.
Hi all,
we would like to inform you that as part of the migration of services to
the new TDE server, new mailing lists have been created.
Accounts subscribed to the original MLs have not been migrated,
because the consent previously granted to receive posts from those MLs
cannot automatically be considered as an approval for the new MLs.
To ensure a smooth migration, an agent that forwards posts between old and
new MLs has been setup. This allows time to subscribe to new MLs and
unsubscribe from old MLs without missing any posts.
The migration agent will be active until the end of October 2020, after
which posts will no longer be forwarded and the old MLs may be deactivated
any time.
Therefore please subscribe to the new MLs as soon as possible and
unsubscribe from the old ones.
The full text of the announcement you can read in the archive of the
tde-announcements mailing list - see
https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/....
To subscribe to the new MLs either use the webinterface:
https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/
or send a blank mail to the address of this new ML:
users-join(a)trinitydesktop.org
To unsubscribe from the original ML, send a blank email to the address of
the original ML:
trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
Thank you for your understanding.
Cheers
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4 Sep
4 Sep
9:45 a.m.
On Friday 04 of September 2020 11:34:02 Slávek Banko via tde-users wrote:
The full text of the announcement you can read in the
archive of the
tde-announcements mailing list - see
https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/....
Exact address of the mentioned e-mail in the tde-announcements archive:
https://trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/announcements@trinityde…
Cheers
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Slávek
9:59 a.m.
Slávek Banko via tde-users composed on 2020-09-04 11:34 (UTC+0200):
..
To subscribe to the new MLs either use the
webinterface:
This method gives option to login first. Is this login different from the one for
Bugzilla? It isn't accepting my Bugzilla username/password. :-(
or send a blank mail to the address of this new ML:
users-join(a)trinitydesktop.org
To unsubscribe from the original ML, send a blank email to the address of
the original ML:
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Thank you for your understanding.
Cheers
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10:07 a.m.
On Friday 04 of September 2020 11:59:20 Felix Miata via tde-users wrote:
It is not necessary to create an account - it is possible to subscribe
without creating an account.
The account is useful only if you would like to adjust the parameters of
posting or use the web interface for reading / replying. In any case,
there is no possible link to Bugzilla accounts - these are separate
accounts.
Cheers
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Slávek
To subscribe
to the new MLs either use the webinterface:
https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/
This method gives option to login first. Is this login different from
the one for Bugzilla? It isn't accepting my Bugzilla username/password.
:-(
5 Sep
5 Sep
2:05 a.m.
On Friday 04 September 2020 03:07:14 Slávek Banko via tde-users wrote:
On Friday 04 of September 2020 11:59:20 Felix Miata
via tde-users wrote:
It is not necessary to create an account - it is possible to subscribe
without creating an account.
The account is useful only if you would like to adjust the parameters of
posting or use the web interface for reading / replying. In any case,
there is no possible link to Bugzilla accounts - these are separate
accounts.
Cheers
I tried to subscribe by sending an email to the address provided, but after
several tries, I got blank email responses, then a response to which I tried
to send back my own response ... then Kmail crashed. I tried sending another
subscription email, but never get a response.
The email sent to me by the server now contains no content. (See attachment
for screenshot.)
Bill
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This method gives option to login first. Is this login different from
the one for Bugzilla? It isn't accepting my Bugzilla username/password.
:-( 
5:57 p.m.
On Saturday 05 of September 2020 04:05:36 William Morder via trinity-users
via tde-users wrote:
It is not necessary to create an account - it is possible to subscribe
without creating an account.
The account is useful only if you would like to adjust the parameters
of posting or use the web interface for reading / replying. In any
case, there is no possible link to Bugzilla accounts - these are
separate accounts.
Cheers
I tried to subscribe by sending an email to the address provided, but
after several tries, I got blank email responses, then a response to
which I tried to send back my own response ... then Kmail crashed. I
tried sending another subscription email, but never get a response.
The email sent to me by the server now contains no content. (See
attachment for screenshot.)
Bill
Hi Bill,
that's very strange. What appears when you open the source code of a
message ('v' key)? You can look at the eml / mbox content of the message -
what does it look like? You'd better send the results to a private email.
Cheers
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Slávek
On Friday 04 September 2020 03:07:14 Slávek Banko via
tde-users wrote:
> On Friday 04 of September 2020 11:59:20 Felix Miata via tde-users
wrote:
To subscribe
to the new MLs either use the webinterface:
https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/
This method gives option to login first. Is this login different
from the one for Bugzilla? It isn't accepting my Bugzilla
username/password.
:-( 
6:52 p.m.
On Saturday 05 September 2020 10:57:30 Slávek Banko via tde-users wrote:
On Saturday 05 of September 2020 04:05:36 William
Morder via trinity-users
via tde-users wrote:
I tried to subscribe by sending an email to the address provided, but
after several tries, I got blank email responses, then a response to
which I tried to send back my own response ... then Kmail crashed. I
tried sending another subscription email, but never get a response.
The email sent to me by the server now contains no content. (See
attachment for screenshot.)
Bill
Hi Bill,
that's very strange. What appears when you open the source code of a
message ('v' key)? You can look at the eml / mbox content of the message -
what does it look like? You'd better send the results to a private email.
Cheers
Hi Slavek,
I don't know if I can retrieve the rogue email in question. I already moved it
to trash (following Michael's suggestion), and when I rebooted, it had
disappeared. So, problem solved on my end, at least for that one item.
Whether that is a sign of some deeper problem is another matter.
Source code of email doesn't look unusual. I could paste it here, but it's
long.
Bill
On Friday 04 September 2020 03:07:14 Slávek Banko
via tde-users wrote:
> On Friday 04 of September 2020 11:59:20 Felix Miata via tde-users
wrote:
> To subscribe to the new MLs either use the
webinterface:
>
> https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/
This method gives option to login first. Is this login different
from the one for Bugzilla? It isn't accepting my Bugzilla
username/password.
:-(
It is not necessary to create an account - it is possible to subscribe
without creating an account.
The account is useful only if you would like to adjust the parameters
of posting or use the web interface for reading / replying. In any
case, there is no possible link to Bugzilla accounts - these are
separate accounts.
Cheers
6 Sep
6 Sep
9:23 a.m.
On Saturday 05 of September 2020 20:52:02 William Morder via tde-users
wrote:
Hi Bill,
that's very strange. What appears when you open the source code of a
message ('v' key)? You can look at the eml / mbox content of the
message - what does it look like? You'd better send the results to a
private email.
Cheers
Hi Slavek,
I don't know if I can retrieve the rogue email in question. I already
moved it to trash (following Michael's suggestion), and when I rebooted,
it had disappeared. So, problem solved on my end, at least for that one
item. Whether that is a sign of some deeper problem is another matter.
Source code of email doesn't look unusual. I could paste it here, but
it's long.
Bill
_______________________________________________
The important thing is that it has been resolved - we probably don't need
to investigate further. I assumed it could be some problem with the
mailbox index in KMail.
Cheers
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Slávek
On Saturday 05 September 2020 10:57:30 Slávek Banko
via tde-users wrote:
> On Saturday 05 of September 2020 04:05:36 William Morder via
> trinity-users
>
> via tde-users wrote:
> > On Friday 04 September 2020 03:07:14 Slávek Banko via tde-users
wrote:
> On Friday 04 of September 2020 11:59:20 Felix
Miata via tde-users
wrote:
> >
To subscribe to the new MLs either use the webinterface:
> >
> > https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/
>
> This method gives option to login first. Is this login different
> from the one for Bugzilla? It isn't accepting my Bugzilla
> username/password.
>
> :-(
It is not necessary to create an account - it is possible to
subscribe without creating an account.
The account is useful only if you would like to adjust the
parameters of posting or use the web interface for reading /
replying. In any case, there is no possible link to Bugzilla
accounts - these are separate accounts.
Cheers
I tried to subscribe by sending an email to the address provided,
but after several tries, I got blank email responses, then a
response to which I tried to send back my own response ... then
Kmail crashed. I tried sending another subscription email, but never
get a response.
The email sent to me by the server now contains no content. (See
attachment for screenshot.)
Bill
5 Sep
5 Sep
6:51 a.m.
Slávek Banko via tde-users wrote:
What I do not understand is where do I get the news after unsubscribing, or
on the client side is nothing changing?
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Hi all,
we would like to inform you that as part of the migration of services to
the new TDE server, new mailing lists have been created.
Accounts subscribed to the original MLs have not been migrated,
because the consent previously granted to receive posts from those MLs
cannot automatically be considered as an approval for the new MLs.
To ensure a smooth migration, an agent that forwards posts between old and
new MLs has been setup. This allows time to subscribe to new MLs and
unsubscribe from old MLs without missing any posts.
The migration agent will be active until the end of October 2020, after
which posts will no longer be forwarded and the old MLs may be deactivated
any time.
Therefore please subscribe to the new MLs as soon as possible and
unsubscribe from the old ones.
The full text of the announcement you can read in the archive of the
tde-announcements mailing list - see
https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/....
To subscribe to the new MLs either use the webinterface:
https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/
or send a blank mail to the address of this new ML:
users-join(a)trinitydesktop.org
To unsubscribe from the original ML, send a blank email to the address of
the original ML:
trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
6:57 a.m.
On Friday 04 September 2020 23:51:13 deloptes wrote:
Slávek Banko via tde-users wrote:
If I understood what Slavek said, he means that for a while (until end of
October) the two will be duplicated, but after that we must be subscribed to
the new list.
As I said, though, I ran into some problems subscribing. I ended up with an
empty, dead email in my inbox, which I cannot delete, to which I cannot
respond, and now it seems I cannot send a new one in order to subscribe
(maybe because it appears I have already tried, but not responded?).
Anyway ... it would be nice to feel included. :-[
Bill
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Hi all,
we would like to inform you that as part of the migration of services to
the new TDE server, new mailing lists have been created.
Accounts subscribed to the original MLs have not been migrated,
because the consent previously granted to receive posts from those MLs
cannot automatically be considered as an approval for the new MLs.
To ensure a smooth migration, an agent that forwards posts between old
and new MLs has been setup. This allows time to subscribe to new MLs and
unsubscribe from old MLs without missing any posts.
The migration agent will be active until the end of October 2020, after
which posts will no longer be forwarded and the old MLs may be
deactivated any time.
Therefore please subscribe to the new MLs as soon as possible and
unsubscribe from the old ones.
The full text of the announcement you can read in the archive of the
tde-announcements mailing list - see
https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/....
To subscribe to the new MLs either use the webinterface:
https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/
or send a blank mail to the address of this new ML:
users-join(a)trinitydesktop.org
To unsubscribe from the original ML, send a blank email to the address of
the original ML:
trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
What I do not understand is where do I get the news after unsubscribing, or
on the client side is nothing changing?
7:18 a.m.
Anno domini 2020 Fri, 4 Sep 23:57:06 -0700
William Morder via trinity-users via tde-users scripsit:
On Friday 04 September 2020 23:51:13 deloptes wrote:
subscribing to the new ML went smoothly for me. Now I get all the mails twice, but
that's no problem.
Slávek Banko via tde-users wrote:
If I understood what Slavek said, he means that for a while (until end of
October) the two will be duplicated, but after that we must be subscribed to
the new list.
As I said, though, I ran into some problems subscribing. I ended up with an
empty, dead email in my inbox, which I cannot delete, to which I cannot
respond, and now it seems I cannot send a new one in order to subscribe
(maybe because it appears I have already tried, but not responded?).
Hi all,
we would like to inform you that as part of the migration of services to
the new TDE server, new mailing lists have been created.
Accounts subscribed to the original MLs have not been migrated,
because the consent previously granted to receive posts from those MLs
cannot automatically be considered as an approval for the new MLs.
To ensure a smooth migration, an agent that forwards posts between old
and new MLs has been setup. This allows time to subscribe to new MLs and
unsubscribe from old MLs without missing any posts.
The migration agent will be active until the end of October 2020, after
which posts will no longer be forwarded and the old MLs may be
deactivated any time.
Therefore please subscribe to the new MLs as soon as possible and
unsubscribe from the old ones.
The full text of the announcement you can read in the archive of the
tde-announcements mailing list - see
https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/....
To subscribe to the new MLs either use the webinterface:
https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/
or send a blank mail to the address of this new ML:
users-join(a)trinitydesktop.org
To unsubscribe from the original ML, send a blank email to the address of
the original ML:
trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
What I do not understand is where do I get the news after unsubscribing, or
on the client side is nothing changing?
Anyway ... it would be nice to feel included. :-[
Bill
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7:25 a.m.
On Saturday 05 September 2020 00:18:48 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Anno domini 2020 Fri, 4 Sep 23:57:06 -0700
William Morder via trinity-users via tde-users scripsit:
So I *am* being excluded, then!
:-{
Bill
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On Friday 04 September 2020 23:51:13 deloptes
wrote:
subscribing to the new ML went smoothly for me. Now I get all the mails
twice, but that's no problem.
> Anyway ... it would be nice to feel included. :-[
> Slávek Banko via tde-users wrote:
If I understood what Slavek said, he means that for a while (until end of
October) the two will be duplicated, but after that we must be subscribed
to the new list.
As I said, though, I ran into some problems subscribing. I ended up with
an empty, dead email in my inbox, which I cannot delete, to which I
cannot respond, and now it seems I cannot send a new one in order to
subscribe (maybe because it appears I have already tried, but not
responded?). Hi all,
we would like to inform you that as part of the migration of services
to the new TDE server, new mailing lists have been created.
Accounts subscribed to the original MLs have not been migrated,
because the consent previously granted to receive posts from those
MLs cannot automatically be considered as an approval for the new
MLs.
To ensure a smooth migration, an agent that forwards posts between
old and new MLs has been setup. This allows time to subscribe to new
MLs and unsubscribe from old MLs without missing any posts.
The migration agent will be active until the end of October 2020,
after which posts will no longer be forwarded and the old MLs may be
deactivated any time.
Therefore please subscribe to the new MLs as soon as possible and
unsubscribe from the old ones.
The full text of the announcement you can read in the archive of the
tde-announcements mailing list - see
https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/....
To subscribe to the new MLs either use the webinterface:
https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/
or send a blank mail to the address of this new ML:
users-join(a)trinitydesktop.org
To unsubscribe from the original ML, send a blank email to the
address of the original ML:
trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
What I do not understand is where do I get the news after
unsubscribing, or on the client side is nothing changing? 
7:58 a.m.
On Sat September 5 2020 00:18:48 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
subscribing to the new ML went smoothly for me. Now I
get all the mails
twice, but that's no problem.
The announcement emails for each list also contain the address
to unsubscribe from the old list.
Just like subscribing, you have to reply to the unsubscribe
confirmation email in order to confirm and complete the process.
--Mike
9:39 a.m.
Am Samstag, 5. September 2020 schrieb Mike Bird via tde-users:
On Sat September 5 2020 00:18:48 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
wrote:
Thanks for the reminder. I forgot and just started to wonder why I
wouldn't get any mails from the new ML after "having subscribed". :-)
Kind regards,
Stefan
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subscribing to the new ML went smoothly for me.
Now I get all the
mails twice, but that's no problem.
The announcement emails for each list also contain the address
to unsubscribe from the old list.
Just like subscribing, you have to reply to the unsubscribe
confirmation email in order to confirm and complete the process.
8:01 a.m.
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
subscribing to the new ML went smoothly for me. Now I
get all the mails
twice, but that's no problem.
I use knode on gmane. Should I reconfigure something - new list? where?
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6:17 p.m.
On Saturday 05 of September 2020 09:18:48 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Anno domini 2020 Fri, 4 Sep 23:57:06 -0700
William Morder via trinity-users via tde-users scripsit:
Once you subscribe in new MLs, there is no reason to stay subscribed in the
old MLs.
The ML Migration Agent ensures that posts to old MLs are forwarded to new
MLs => you get them, as well as posts to new MLs are forwarded to old MLs
=> users who are not yet subscribed in new MLs receive them.
Staying logged in to old MLs means that you will receive duplicate posts as
long as the old MLs work or until you unsubscribe from the old MLs.
Cheers
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On Friday 04 September 2020 23:51:13 deloptes
wrote:
subscribing to the new ML went smoothly for me. Now I get all the mails
twice, but that's no problem.
> Anyway ... it would be nice to feel included. :-[
>
> Bill
> Slávek Banko via tde-users wrote:
If I understood what Slavek said, he means that for a while (until end
of October) the two will be duplicated, but after that we must be
subscribed to the new list.
As I said, though, I ran into some problems subscribing. I ended up
with an empty, dead email in my inbox, which I cannot delete, to which
I cannot respond, and now it seems I cannot send a new one in order to
subscribe (maybe because it appears I have already tried, but not
responded?). Hi all,
we would like to inform you that as part of the migration of
services to the new TDE server, new mailing lists have been
created.
Accounts subscribed to the original MLs have not been migrated,
because the consent previously granted to receive posts from those
MLs cannot automatically be considered as an approval for the new
MLs.
To ensure a smooth migration, an agent that forwards posts between
old and new MLs has been setup. This allows time to subscribe to
new MLs and unsubscribe from old MLs without missing any posts.
The migration agent will be active until the end of October 2020,
after which posts will no longer be forwarded and the old MLs may
be deactivated any time.
Therefore please subscribe to the new MLs as soon as possible and
unsubscribe from the old ones.
The full text of the announcement you can read in the archive of
the tde-announcements mailing list - see
https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/....
To subscribe to the new MLs either use the webinterface:
https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/
or send a blank mail to the address of this new ML:
users-join(a)trinitydesktop.org
To unsubscribe from the original ML, send a blank email to the
address of the original ML:
trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
What I do not understand is where do I get the news after
unsubscribing, or on the client side is nothing changing?
8 a.m.
On Fri September 4 2020 23:57:06 William Morder via trinity-users via
tde-users wrote:
As I said, though, I ran into some problems
subscribing. I ended up with an
empty, dead email in my inbox, which I cannot delete, to which I cannot
respond, and now it seems I cannot send a new one in order to subscribe
(maybe because it appears I have already tried, but not responded?).
You have heap big mail server or mail client problem that you should
consider tackling first.
--Mike
11:04 a.m.
On Saturday 05 September 2020 01:00:22 Mike Bird via tde-users wrote:
On Fri September 4 2020 23:57:06 William Morder via
trinity-users via
tde-users wrote:
I am offended that you ridicule my Native American heritage. (Actually, I have
only a tiny bit, and do not identify as Native American at all, since I never
knew anybody in my family who was such, but only heard about it. Still, now
that's politically incorrect!)
Okay, seriously.... So I thought, what would Kokopelli do (or any other
Trickster figure). And I copied the dead/empty email that's in my inbox to my
TDE folder, where suddenly it reappeared in all its full glory; then I
replied to the copy of the message, got back confirmation, etc., so it
appears that I am subscribed to the new list, in spite of your best efforts
to foil me.
The empty/dead email is still sticking there in my inbox, even though I tried
deleting it, moving it to trash, etc. Whatever are my big problems with mail
server or mail client, I cannot fathom them. Besides, why now? I have been
using these in the same way since at least 2005 and the first steps into
Linux land.
Bill
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As I said, though, I ran into some problems
subscribing. I ended up with
an empty, dead email in my inbox, which I cannot delete, to which I
cannot respond, and now it seems I cannot send a new one in order to
subscribe (maybe because it appears I have already tried, but not
responded?).
You have heap big mail server or mail client problem that you should
consider tackling first.
--Mike 
5:04 p.m.
On Saturday 05 September 2020 06:04:55 am William Morder
The empty/dead email is still sticking there in my inbox
If at first you don’t succeed, go commando!
Uhm, wait!, go command-line!
Mail is usually in here: ~/.trinity/share/apps/kmail/mail
See if you can just delete it from the disk. Root it out if you have too ;)
Best,
Michael
Bringing new meaning to scare the pants off them since....
5:10 p.m.
On Saturday 05 September 2020 19.04:40 Michael via tde-users wrote:
If at first you don’t succeed, go commando!
I just followed the instruction - send an empty mail to the indicated mail
address - and everything worked as expected (I think)
I only got your message from the old list, however.
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On Saturday 05 September 2020 10:10:46 Thierry de Coulon via tde-users wrote:
On Saturday 05 September 2020 19.04:40 Michael via
tde-users wrote:
> If at first you don’t succeed, go commando!
Yeah, just sometimes I would rather be doing other things with my time. Maybe
this evening, to while away the long hours ...
I just followed the instruction - send an empty mail to the indicated mail
address - and everything worked as expected (I think)
I only got your message from the old list, however.
I got duplicate emails from both of you, one from each list, so that means you
have both succeeded in subscribing.
Yay! so the new mailing list works. Rome wasn't built in a day.
My problems with email subscription, Kmail crashing, the ghost emails, etc., I
believe might all be connected to my networking problems; which indeed are
still not resolved. I think I got disconnected as I was trying to follow
through on the subscription email, and somehow that corrupted the results.
As for networking, more on that later. Right now I am going through all the
possible permutations of network-manager, network-manager-gnome,
network-manager-tde, wicd, etc. At present, using wicd with no
network-manager at all seems to be no better and no worse, but I still can't
go online/offline at will, and am forced to reboot periodically.
Let me mess around with this networking a bit more, though, as I have got lots
of great suggestions, but thus far none of them work for me.
Bill
5:28 p.m.
On Saturday 05 September 2020 12:10:46 pm Thierry de Coulon via tde-users
wrote:
On Saturday 05 September 2020 19.04:40 Michael via
tde-users wrote:
Did you reply to confirm for the new list? These were the instructions I got.
Subject: confirm {huge string of junk}
From: users-confirm+{huge string of junk}(a)trinitydesktop.org
"Before you can start using GNU Mailman at this site, you must first confirm
that this is your email address. You can do this by replying to this message,
keeping the Subject header intact."
If at first you don’t succeed, go commando!
I just followed the instruction - send an empty mail to the indicated mail
address - and everything worked as expected (I think)
I only got your message from the old list, however. 
11:20 a.m.
If I understood what Slavek said, he means that for a
while (until end of
October) the two will be duplicated, but after that we must be subscribed to
the new list.
Yes, messages will be duplicated on both old and new MLs till end of October.
Registration through email should be quite smooth, but if you really have issues you can
go to the web interface, create
a user and register from there.
Cheers
Michele
11:34 a.m.
On Saturday 05 September 2020 04:20:32 Michele Calgaro via tde-users wrote:
It appears that I have been subscribed to the new mailing list, having
resorted to trickery. (I just copied the dead/empty email to my TDE folder,
where it was revived, and responded to that.)
Now I am receiving emails from both lists. All I need to do is figure out why
I have this lingering ghost in my inbox; but I've had that happen before, and
they usually just go away. When I send myself emails from my phone, for
example, this sometimes has happened; and I did just have Kmail crashing when
I was trying to respond to emails, which started happening when I installed
Beowulf/Buster recently.
I will wait to decide if this is a recurrent bug to be reported, or due to my
own fault. Right now Kmail isn't crashing.
Bill
If I
understood what Slavek said, he means that for a while (until end of
October) the two will be duplicated, but after that we must be subscribed
to the new list.
Yes, messages will be duplicated on both old and new MLs till end of
October. Registration through email should be quite smooth, but if you
really have issues you can go to the web interface, create a user and
register from there.
Cheers
Michele
6 Sep
6 Sep
8:09 a.m.
Michele Calgaro via tde-users wrote:
Interesting I get following in gmail.
Address not found
Your message wasn't delivered to
trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
because the domain public.gmane.org couldn't be found. Check for typos or
unnecessary spaces and try again.
The response was:
DNS Error: 10339843 DNS type 'mx' lookup of public.gmane.org responded with
code NXDOMAIN Domain name not found: public.gmane.org
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If I
understood what Slavek said, he means that for a while (until end of
October) the two will be duplicated, but after that we must be subscribed
to the new list.
Yes, messages will be duplicated on both old and new MLs till end of
October. Registration through email should be quite smooth, but if you
really have issues you can go to the web interface, create a user and
register from there.
Cheers
Michele
2:22 p.m.
On Saturday 05 of September 2020 08:51:13 deloptes via tde-users wrote:
Slávek Banko via tde-users wrote:
I have no experience with using usenet news and I have no idea how to set
the binding of the mailing list <=> usenet news. Is there anyone who
knows?
Cheers
--
Slávek
Hi all,
we would like to inform you that as part of the migration of services
to the new TDE server, new mailing lists have been created.
Accounts subscribed to the original MLs have not been migrated,
because the consent previously granted to receive posts from those MLs
cannot automatically be considered as an approval for the new MLs.
To ensure a smooth migration, an agent that forwards posts between old
and new MLs has been setup. This allows time to subscribe to new MLs
and unsubscribe from old MLs without missing any posts.
The migration agent will be active until the end of October 2020,
after which posts will no longer be forwarded and the old MLs may be
deactivated any time.
Therefore please subscribe to the new MLs as soon as possible and
unsubscribe from the old ones.
The full text of the announcement you can read in the archive of the
tde-announcements mailing list - see
https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/....
To subscribe to the new MLs either use the webinterface:
https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/
or send a blank mail to the address of this new ML:
users-join(a)trinitydesktop.org
To unsubscribe from the original ML, send a blank email to the address
of the original ML:
trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
What I do not understand is where do I get the news after unsubscribing,
or on the client side is nothing changing?
9:45 p.m.
Slávek Banko via tde-users wrote:
I have no experience with using usenet news and I have
no idea how to set
the binding of the mailing list <=> usenet news. Is there anyone who
knows?
Cheers
So it looks like we have to look into this. For now I am subscribed to old
and new and the news client is subscribed to
gmane.comp.desktop.trinity.user and devel. I am still getting the news here
probably via the wrapper that you set up. As this is mail based I would
assume there is somewhere something configured to use the gmane server.
Just visit https://admin.gmane.io/ and type Group=trinity, List=user, then
follow the link (do the same for devel etc) .
There is a button at the bottom "Request data update" - might be worth
trying - looks promising.
I find the gmane service a great thing and the TDE reader (knode) also.
cheers
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11:12 p.m.
On Sunday 06 of September 2020 23:45:05 deloptes via tde-users wrote:
Slávek Banko via tde-users wrote:
Yes, I assume it works at the moment thanks to the migration agent.
Thanks for the link, I entered a request to update users, devels and
announcements lists. We'll see what happens.
Cheers
--
Slávek
I have no experience with using usenet news and I
have no idea how to
set the binding of the mailing list <=> usenet news. Is there anyone
who knows?
Cheers
So it looks like we have to look into this. For now I am subscribed to
old and new and the news client is subscribed to
gmane.comp.desktop.trinity.user and devel. I am still getting the news
here probably via the wrapper that you set up. As this is mail based I
would assume there is somewhere something configured to use the gmane
server.
Just visit https://admin.gmane.io/ and type Group=trinity, List=user,
then follow the link (do the same for devel etc) .
There is a button at the bottom "Request data update" - might be worth
trying - looks promising.
I find the gmane service a great thing and the TDE reader (knode) also.
cheers
13 Sep
13 Sep
8:29 a.m.
On Monday 07 of September 2020 01:12:18 Slávek Banko via tde-users wrote:
On Sunday 06 of September 2020 23:45:05 deloptes via
tde-users wrote:
Good news - a change to the settings on gmane.io has been accepted. I can
see that gmane.io is now registered as a member of the mailing list, so it
will properly receive new posts. Now it's a good idea to watch for a while
if everything's okay.
Cheers
--
Slávek
Slávek Banko via tde-users wrote:
Yes, I assume it works at the moment thanks to the migration agent.
Thanks for the link, I entered a request to update users, devels and
announcements lists. We'll see what happens.
Cheers I have no experience with using usenet news and I
have no idea how
to set the binding of the mailing list <=> usenet news. Is there
anyone who knows?
Cheers
So it looks like we have to look into this. For now I am subscribed to
old and new and the news client is subscribed to
gmane.comp.desktop.trinity.user and devel. I am still getting the news
here probably via the wrapper that you set up. As this is mail based I
would assume there is somewhere something configured to use the gmane
server.
Just visit https://admin.gmane.io/ and type Group=trinity, List=user,
then follow the link (do the same for devel etc) .
There is a button at the bottom "Request data update" - might be worth
trying - looks promising.
I find the gmane service a great thing and the TDE reader (knode)
also.
cheers 
5:04 p.m.
Slávek Banko via tde-users wrote:
Good news - a change to the settings on gmane.io has
been accepted. I can
see that gmane.io is now registered as a member of the mailing list, so it
will properly receive new posts. Now it's a good idea to watch for a while
if everything's okay.
Thank you, Slavek!
It is indeed good new.
(view it as a test)
regards
6:57 p.m.
On Sunday 13 of September 2020 19:04:16 deloptes wrote:
Slávek Banko via tde-users wrote:
It looks like your reply was sent directly to a new mailing list, so
everything looks fine.
Cheers
--
Slávek
Good news - a change to the settings on gmane.io
has been accepted. I
can see that gmane.io is now registered as a member of the mailing
list, so it will properly receive new posts. Now it's a good idea to
watch for a while if everything's okay.
Thank you, Slavek!
It is indeed good new.
(view it as a test)
regards
11:35 p.m.
On Sunday 13 of September 2020 21:41:05 deloptes wrote:
Slávek Banko via tde-users wrote:
Groups on gmane are now linked to new mailing lists. So they receive posts
from the new mailing list and also send replies to the new mailing list.
If you're subscribed to old MLs, to new MLs, and you're actually using
newsgroups on gmane, then you seem to be getting duplicate emails from old
MLs, new MLs, and none of those emails you're using. If you always read
posts only on news groups, you may find sending posts to your mail
unnecessary.
For the old ML, you can simply unsubscribe. For users who have not yet
subscribed into the new MLs, their posts are automatically forwarded to
the new MLs, and therefore to Gmane. So you don't need to receive emails
from old MLs, or be subscribed there to send your posts.
For a new ML there is a need that you have been subscribed so that your
posts can be sent there. However, when you create an account on Mailman,
you can turn off the delivery of posts to your mail. This could be the
perfect way for you.
Cheers
--
Slávek
It looks like your reply was sent directly to a
new mailing list, so
everything looks fine.
Indeed it looks good. I am not sure if I have to unsubscribe the old
list - is it really an old one because both are on gmane?
15 Sep
15 Sep
5:54 p.m.
Slávek Banko via tde-users composed on 2020-09-04 11:34 (UTC+0200):
please subscribe to the new MLs as soon as possible
and
unsubscribe from the old ones.
I successfully subscribed to the new lists, but my
unsubscribe requests of the old
lists of 24 hours ago have not been acknowledged.
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is based on faith, not on science.
Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
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6:01 p.m.
Dne út 15. září 2020 Felix Miata via tde-users napsal(a):
Slávek Banko via tde-users composed on 2020-09-04
11:34 (UTC+0200):
Did you receive an email to confirm unsubscribing from the old ML? Did you
check to see if it ended up in a spam folder?
Unfortunately for the old ML I can't do anything. If you don't manage to
unsubscribe, there will be no choice but to wait until they are turned
off... or set up a filter in your mail so that posts from old MLs are
returned as undeliverable and unsubscribe may be done automatically in
response to undeliverable posts.
Cheers
--
Slávek
please subscribe to the new MLs as soon as
possible and
unsubscribe from the old ones.
I successfully subscribed to the new lists, but my unsubscribe requests
of the old lists of 24 hours ago have not been acknowledged. 
6:58 p.m.
Slávek Banko via tde-users composed on 2020-09-15 20:01 (UTC+0200):
Dne út 15. září 2020 Felix Miata via tde-users
napsal(a):
> I successfully subscribed to the new lists, but my
unsubscribe requests
> of the old lists of 24 hours ago have not been acknowledged.
Did you receive an email to confirm unsubscribing from
the old ML?
No.
Did you check to see if it ended up in a spam folder?
Don't have a spam folder. Anything having anything to do with TDE gets filtered
into it's own folder.
Unfortunately for the old ML I can't do anything.
If you don't manage to
unsubscribe, there will be no choice but to wait until they are turned
off... or set up a filter in your mail so that posts from old MLs are
returned as undeliverable and unsubscribe may be done automatically in
response to undeliverable posts.
I'm not sure whether my client can return as undeliverable. I did just a moment
ago retry unsubscribing both. So far, no response has appeared, only more ordinary
thread posts.
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is based on faith, not on science.
Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
16 Sep
16 Sep
4:07 p.m.
Slávek Banko via tde-users composed on 2020-09-15 20:01 (UTC+0200):
Did you receive an email to confirm unsubscribing from
the old ML? Did you
check to see if it ended up in a spam folder?
Unfortunately for the old ML I can't do anything.
If you don't manage to
unsubscribe, there will be no choice but to wait until they are turned
off... or set up a filter in your mail so that posts from old MLs are
returned as undeliverable and unsubscribe may be done automatically in
response to undeliverable posts.
My second attempts do unsubscribe seem to have worked. :-
--
Evolution as taught in public schools, like religion,
is based on faith, not on science.
Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
4:12 p.m.
On Wednesday 16 of September 2020 18:07:42 Felix Miata wrote:
Slávek Banko via tde-users composed on 2020-09-15
20:01 (UTC+0200):
Yesterday I tried to send unsubscribe requests on your behalf. As a result,
you should have received confirmation emails. Apparently, one of the
attempts was successful.
Cheers
--
Slávek
Did you receive an email to confirm unsubscribing
from the old ML? Did
you check to see if it ended up in a spam folder?
Unfortunately for the old ML I can't do anything. If you don't manage
to unsubscribe, there will be no choice but to wait until they are
turned off... or set up a filter in your mail so that posts from old
MLs are returned as undeliverable and unsubscribe may be done
automatically in response to undeliverable posts.
My second attempts do unsubscribe seem to have worked. :-
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