11 Apr
2019
11 Apr
'19
7:17 p.m.
Hello,
I often upgrade my Debian-Stretch.
Eeach time, it's mostly packages trinity who are upgraded,
it's good, and less Debian packages.
But, is it normal ?
Regards,
André
11 Apr
11 Apr
8:34 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] upgrade trinity
On Thursday 11 April 2019 21.17:42 andre_debian(a)numericable.fr wrote:
Hello,
I often upgrade my Debian-Stretch.
Eeach time, it's mostly packages trinity who are upgraded,
it's good, and less Debian packages.
But, is it normal ?
Regards,
André
I'd say Stretch is "stable", and soon to become "old-stable", so I
guess not
much is upgraded.
Anyway I think this "upgrade/update" craze is mostly the result from
Microsoft, Apple and Google having to frequently patch their buggy OSes and
using this to force users to adopt their latest control options. Now it's
become a fashion.
I have here a few installs with fairly old Linux versions and never got a
problem - I agree I'm certainly not a prime taget for hackers...
Thierry
12 Apr
12 Apr
8:03 a.m.
Thierry de Coulon wrote:
Anyway I think this "upgrade/update" craze
is mostly the result from
Microsoft, Apple and Google having to frequently patch their buggy OSes
and using this to force users to adopt their latest control options. Now
it's become a fashion.
I have here a few installs with fairly old Linux versions and never got a
problem - I agree I'm certainly not a prime taget for hackers...
I disagree here, because if you look at what was recently upgraded in
Stretch, these are openssh and similar, which are critical and I would not
advise anyone with access to the internet to not upgrade frequently.
This is also not "Microsoft, Apple and Google" madness, but a normal
software cycle. If you want to have latest bug and security fixes, do
upgrade regularly.
Now for TDE, it is so stable, that you may have the impression you do not
need it, but still the system should be up to date, to not allow undesired
intrusions.
If you are target or not - you do not know. I see in the last couple of
months constant brute force attacks on my ssh server, although I do not
believe I am a target too. These are not people, these are machines and
they do not make exception for you or for me.
regards
10:44 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: upgrade trinity
On 12/04/2019 09:03, deloptes wrote:
Thierry de Coulon wrote:
.. and I disagree with you. On the basis of your argument, we should not
use the internet full stop as any software we use must be suspect as it
will be continually upgraded. I'm not saying don't upgrade but to
blindly upgrade is as bad as blindly not upgrading. Why should I believe
ANY upgrade is more secure than the last? Upgrades are screwed up on a
regular basis both by introducing security flaws and bugs and also
removing/changing features that one needs. Do we read all the changelogs
before doing apt upgrade? No, but we should if we want reliability.
Anyway I think this "upgrade/update"
craze is mostly the result from
Microsoft, Apple and Google having to frequently patch their buggy OSes
and using this to force users to adopt their latest control options. Now
it's become a fashion.
I have here a few installs with fairly old Linux versions and never got a
problem - I agree I'm certainly not a prime taget for hackers...
I disagree
here, because if you look at what was recently upgraded in
Stretch, these are openssh and similar, which are critical and I would not
advise anyone with access to the internet to not upgrade frequently. This is also not "Microsoft, Apple and
Google" madness, but a normal
software cycle. If you want to have latest bug and security fixes, do
upgrade regularly.
Read above.
Now for TDE, it is so stable, that you may have the impression you do not
need it, but still the system should be up to date, to not allow undesired
intrusions.
Upgrade for improvements, no problem, but read above.
If you are target or not - you do not know. I see in the last couple of
months constant brute force attacks on my ssh server
and upgrading will stop that? No. A bit of filtering of known spam IPs
would help much more.
Security for security's sake is a nightmare. If somebody can utilise a
security flaw in my TDE desktop, I've already got big, big problems.
--
Mike Howard
11:47 a.m.
Michael Howard via trinity-users wrote:
I'm not saying don't upgrade but to
blindly upgrade is as bad as blindly not upgrading.
Did I say blindly?
You could decide to do only security updates if you wish, but to state
things that are potentially dangerous is not encouraging.
regards
12:20 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Re: upgrade trinity
On 12/04/2019 12:47, deloptes wrote:
Michael Howard via trinity-users wrote:
Did I say YOU said blindly? :) That's just what people do.
--
Mike Howard
I'm not saying don't upgrade but to
blindly upgrade is as bad as blindly not upgrading.
Did I say blindly?
7:46 p.m.
Michael Howard via trinity-users wrote:
On 12/04/2019 12:47, deloptes wrote:
and thats how people get in trouble
Michael Howard via trinity-users wrote:
Did I say YOU said blindly? :) That's just what people do.
I'm not saying don't upgrade but to
blindly upgrade is as bad as blindly not upgrading.
Did I say blindly?
2:47 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: upgrade trinity
On Fri April 12 2019 03:44:55 Michael Howard via trinity-users wrote:
On 12/04/2019 09:03, deloptes wrote:
Attackers mount attacks from the new systems they pwn - possibly
including yours.
It is not feasible to block millions of infected IP addresses with
thousands more infected and disinfected every day.
--Mike
If you are target or not - you do not know. I see
in the last couple of
months constant brute force attacks on my ssh server
and upgrading will stop that? No. A bit of filtering of known spam IPs
would help much more. 
2:59 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: upgrade trinity
Hi Guys,
On Friday 12 April 2019 15:47:09 Mike Bird wrote:
More of a problem are the vulnerabilities built into the processor
itself. The kernels have some patches included to help negate these
but also slows down the system.
--
Best Regards:
Baron
On Fri April 12 2019 03:44:55 Michael Howard via
trinity-users
wrote:
On 12/04/2019
09:03, deloptes wrote:
Attackers mount attacks from the new systems they pwn - possibly
including yours.
It is not feasible to block millions of infected IP addresses with
thousands more infected and disinfected every day.
--Mike If you are target or not - you do not know. I see
in the last
couple of months constant brute force attacks on my ssh server
and upgrading will stop that? No. A bit of filtering of known
spam IPs would help much more.
3:41 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: upgrade trinity
On 12/04/2019 15:47, Mike Bird wrote:
On Fri April 12 2019 03:44:55 Michael Howard via
trinity-users wrote:
Of course it's possible to block millions, if you have their IPs. It
wouldn't be efficient but then 'millions' are not brute force attacking
my, or your, or deloptes system at any one time. If they were, it would
be pointless anyway. The point is, if you have a regularly updated list
of known spam IPs, which we do, and you use a decent firewall, which I
do, you can prevent a huge amount of brute force attacks by just
dropping the connection.
The reason why my system _isn't_ infected is because I do just that. I
don't rely completely on debian devs to right their own wrongs, nor
should I.
--
Mike Howard
On 12/04/2019 09:03, deloptes wrote:
Attackers mount attacks from the new systems they pwn -
possibly
including yours.
It is not feasible to block millions of infected IP addresses with
thousands more infected and disinfected every day.
If you are target or not - you do not know. I see
in the last couple of
months constant brute force attacks on my ssh server
and upgrading will stop that?
No. A bit of filtering of known spam IPs
would help much more.
4:01 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: upgrade trinity
On Fri April 12 2019 08:41:10 Michael Howard via trinity-users wrote:
Of course it's possible to block millions, if you
have their IPs. It
wouldn't be efficient but then 'millions' are not brute force attacking
my, or your, or deloptes system at any one time. If they were, it would
be pointless anyway. The point is, if you have a regularly updated list
of known spam IPs, which we do, and you use a decent firewall, which I
do, you can prevent a huge amount of brute force attacks by just
dropping the connection.
I'm unclear what you're referring to as your "regularly updated list".
Is this SYN rate limiting or fail2ban or a manually maintained list
or something else?
--Mike
4:44 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: upgrade trinity
On 12/04/2019 17:01, Mike Bird wrote:
On Fri April 12 2019 08:41:10 Michael Howard via
trinity-users wrote:
I'm referring to 'block' lists, as provided by spamhaus.org and
dshield.org for example, which are made available to everybody and can
be downloaded as frequently as one likes/needs.
As an added barrier, I also have my own list of blocked IPs. These are
IPs which are not on the above lists that repeatedly connect, trying
different username/password combinations in succession. This list is not
permanent because as you say, they could well be infected slaves.
--
Mike Howard
Of course it's possible to block millions, if
you have their IPs. It
wouldn't be efficient but then 'millions' are not brute force attacking
my, or your, or deloptes system at any one time. If they were, it would
be pointless anyway. The point is, if you have a regularly updated list
of known spam IPs, which we do, and you use a decent firewall, which I
do, you can prevent a huge amount of brute force attacks by just
dropping the connection.
I'm unclear what you're referring to as your
"regularly updated list".
Is this SYN rate limiting or fail2ban or a manually maintained list
or something else?
5:30 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: upgrade trinity
On Fri April 12 2019 09:44:07 Michael Howard via trinity-users wrote:
I'm referring to 'block' lists, as
provided by spamhaus.org and
dshield.org for example, which are made available to everybody and can
be downloaded as frequently as one likes/needs.
Spammers have rather different characteristics than the attackers
attempting to hack systems and guess passwords.
As an added barrier, I also have my own list of
blocked IPs. These are
IPs which are not on the above lists that repeatedly connect, trying
different username/password combinations in succession. This list is not
permanent because as you say, they could well be infected slaves.
Infected PCs attempting to guess passwords and exploit bugs number
in the millions, with thousands of changes every day.
What is needed is defense in depth including staying up to date on
security patches, careful software configuration including firewalls,
various forms of packet rate limiting, encryption, fail2ban, reverse
DNS checks, SPF/DKIM, spam filters, and malware scanners.
--Mike
7:29 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: upgrade trinity
On 12/04/2019 18:30, Mike Bird wrote:
On Fri April 12 2019 09:44:07 Michael Howard via
trinity-users wrote:
Shakes head and gives up.
--
Mike Howard
I'm referring to 'block' lists, as
provided by spamhaus.org and
dshield.org for example, which are made available to everybody and can
be downloaded as frequently as one likes/needs.
Spammers have rather different
characteristics than the attackers
attempting to hack systems and guess passwords.
As an added barrier, I also have my own list of
blocked IPs. These are
IPs which are not on the above lists that repeatedly connect, trying
different username/password combinations in succession. This list is not
permanent because as you say, they could well be infected slaves.
Infected PCs
attempting to guess passwords and exploit bugs number
in the millions, with thousands of changes every day.
What is needed is defense in depth including staying up to date on
security patches, careful software configuration including firewalls,
various forms of packet rate limiting, encryption, fail2ban, reverse
DNS checks, SPF/DKIM, spam filters, and malware scanners.
11:09 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] upgrade trinity
On Thursday 11 April 2019 21.17:42
andre_debian(a)numericable.fr wrote:
> I often upgrade my Debian-Stretch.
> Eeach time, it's mostly packages trinity who are upgraded,
> it's good, and less Debian packages.
> But, is it normal ?
On Thursday 11 April 2019 22:34:54 Thierry de Coulon wrote:
I'd say Stretch is "stable", and soon to
become "old-stable", so I guess not
much is upgraded.
Anyway I think this "upgrade/update" craze is mostly the result from
Microsoft, Apple and Google having to frequently patch their buggy OSes and
using this to force users to adopt their latest control options. Now it's
become a fashion.
I have here a few installs with fairly old Linux versions and never got a
problem - I agree I'm certainly not a prime taget for hackers...
My question was :
Even if it's good, is it normal that often most of trinity packages must be
upgraded ?
Regards,
André
11:16 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] upgrade trinity
Dne pá 12. dubna 2019 andre_debian(a)numericable.fr napsal(a):
Hi,
regarding Trinity packages, it depends on what apt source is used, whether
the final release or the preliminary stable builds. For the final, it is
updated only during the release. For preliminary, it is updated on an
ongoing basis.
Cheers
--
Slávek
On Thursday 11
April 2019 21.17:42 andre_debian(a)numericable.fr wrote:
> I often upgrade my Debian-Stretch.
> Eeach time, it's mostly packages trinity who are upgraded,
> it's good, and less Debian packages.
> But, is it normal ?
On Thursday 11 April 2019 22:34:54 Thierry de Coulon wrote:
I'd say Stretch is "stable", and
soon to become "old-stable", so I
guess not much is upgraded.
Anyway I think this "upgrade/update" craze is mostly the result from
Microsoft, Apple and Google having to frequently patch their buggy
OSes and using this to force users to adopt their latest control
options. Now it's become a fashion.
I have here a few installs with fairly old Linux versions and never
got a problem - I agree I'm certainly not a prime taget for
hackers...
My question was :
Even if it's good, is it normal that often most of trinity packages
must be upgraded ?
Regards,
André
12:53 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] upgrade trinity
Dne pá 12. dubna 2019 andre_debian(a)numericable.fr :
> My question was :
> Even if it's good, is it normal that often most of trinity packages
> must be upgraded ?
On Friday 12 April 2019 13:16:51 Slávek Banko wrote:
regarding Trinity packages, it depends on what apt
source is used, whether
the final release or the preliminary stable builds. For the final, it is
updated only during the release. For preliminary, it is updated on an
ongoing basis.
My /apt/sources.list contains these lines for trinity :
#trinity
deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb stretch deps-r14 main-r14
deb-src http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb stretch deps-r14 main-r14
release or preliminary stable builds ?
Thanks,
André
2:55 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] upgrade trinity
Dne pá 12. dubna 2019 andre_debian(a)numericable.fr napsal(a):
Preliminary stable builds. Currently, packages are the same version as in
stable == both contains R14.0.6. If you want, now is a good time to
switch to a stable repository.
Cheers
--
Slávek
Dne pá 12.
dubna 2019 andre_debian(a)numericable.fr :
> My question was :
> Even if it's good, is it normal that often most of trinity packages
> must be upgraded ?
On Friday 12 April 2019 13:16:51 Slávek Banko wrote:
regarding Trinity packages, it depends on what
apt source is used,
whether the final release or the preliminary stable builds. For the
final, it is updated only during the release. For preliminary, it is
updated on an ongoing basis.
My /apt/sources.list contains these lines for trinity :
#trinity
deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb stretch deps-r14 main-r14
deb-src http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb stretch deps-r14 main-r14
release or preliminary stable builds ?
Thanks,
André
5:36 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] upgrade trinity
Dne pá 12. dubna 2019 andre_debian(a)numericable.fr
napsal(a):
> My /apt/sources.list contains these lines for trinity :
> #trinity
> deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb stretch deps-r14 main-r14
> deb-src http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb stretch deps-r14 main-r14
> release or preliminary stable builds ?
On Friday 12 April 2019 16:55:40 Slávek Banko wrote:
Preliminary stable builds. Currently, packages are the
same version as in
stable == both contains R14.0.6. If you want, now is a good time to
switch to a stable repository.
I'm lost.
I see on trinity site,
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Debian_Trinity_Repository_Installation_Inst…
TDE R14.0.5 :
deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian
<your-distribution> main deb
http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/debi…
<your-distribution> main
deb-src http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian
<your-distribution> main
deb-src
http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/debi…
<your-distribution> main
OR
TDE v3.5.13.2 :
deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/debian
<your-distribution> main
deb
http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-v3.5.13/debi…
<your-distribution> main
deb-src http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/debian
<your-distribution> main
deb-src
http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-v3.5.13/debi…
<your-distribution> main
Also, tde-trinity and kde-trinity : which difference between the both ?
Which lines in sources.list for me ?
Thanks,
André
7:55 p.m.
andre_debian(a)numericable.fr wrote:
I'm lost.
I see on trinity site,
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Debian_Trinity_Repository_Installation_Inst…
TDE R14.0.5 :
deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian
<your-distribution> main deb
http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/debi…
<your-distribution> main
deb-src
http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian
<your-distribution> main deb-src
http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/debi…
<your-distribution> main
what Slavek means is if you switch to the above, you will keep your current
14.0.6 from preliminary stable build, because
http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb stretch deps-r14 main-r14
will go to 14.0.7 and you will get again more frequent updates of trinity
packages.
I think the wiki just needs to be updated as 14.0.6 came out recently.
regards
15 Apr
15 Apr
12:35 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: upgrade trinity
On Friday 12 April 2019 21:55:27 deloptes wrote:
andre_debian(a)numericable.fr wrote:
> I'm lost.
what Slavek means is if you switch to the above, you
will keep your current
14.0.6 from preliminary stable build, because
http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb stretch deps-r14 main-r14
will go to 14.0.7 and you will get again more frequent updates of trinity
packages.
I think the wiki just needs to be updated as 14.0.6 came out recently.
Always lost.
Are these lines below correct ?
(to have the last version 14.5 or 6) :
#trinity
deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb stretch deps-r14 main-r14
deb-src http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb stretch deps-r14 main-r14
Thanks,
André
3:40 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: upgrade trinity
On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 at 05:35, <andre_debian(a)numericable.fr> wrote:
On Friday 12 April 2019 21:55:27 deloptes wrote:
Moi, je me sens aussi un peu perdu - I feel a bit lost too.
I have included the above lines in my sources.list - after update,
there is still no indication of packages to be upgraded.
Robert
andre_debian(a)numericable.fr wrote:
> I'm lost.
what Slavek means is if you switch to the above,
you will keep your current
14.0.6 from preliminary stable build, because
http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb stretch deps-r14 main-r14
will go to 14.0.7 and you will get again more frequent updates of trinity
packages.
I think the wiki just needs to be updated as 14.0.6 came out recently.
Always lost.
Are these lines below correct ?
(to have the last version 14.5 or 6) :
#trinity
deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb stretch deps-r14 main-r14
deb-src http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb stretch deps-r14 main-r14
Thanks,
André 
3:50 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: upgrade trinity
Anno domini 2019 Mon, 15 Apr 08:40:28 -0700
Robert Peters scripsit:
On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 at 05:35,
<andre_debian(a)numericable.fr> wrote:
Hi!
I have devuan beowulf running. /et/apt/sources.list contains:
deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity-sb buster deps-r14 extra-r14 main-r14
deb-src http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity-sb buster deps-r14 extra-r14
main-r14
$ dpkg -l|grep trinity
shows all packages are 4:14.0.6-0debian10.0.0+0~a...
On Friday 12 April 2019 21:55:27 deloptes wrote:
Moi, je me sens aussi un peu perdu - I feel a bit lost too.
I have included the above lines in my sources.list - after update,
there is still no indication of packages to be upgraded.
Robert andre_debian(a)numericable.fr wrote:
> I'm lost.
what Slavek means is if you switch to the above,
you will keep your current
14.0.6 from preliminary stable build, because
http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb stretch deps-r14 main-r14
will go to 14.0.7 and you will get again more frequent updates of trinity
packages.
I think the wiki just needs to be updated as 14.0.6 came out recently.
Always lost.
Are these lines below correct ?
(to have the last version 14.5 or 6) :
#trinity
deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb stretch deps-r14 main-r14
deb-src http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb stretch deps-r14 main-r14
Thanks,
André
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New subject: [trinity-users] Re: upgrade trinity
Dne po 15. dubna 2019 Robert Peters napsal(a):
On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 at 05:35,
<andre_debian(a)numericable.fr> wrote:
If you want to use a stable release and don't want to get bug fixes faster,
use apt source for final release:
deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian stretch main
deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/debi… stretch
main
If you want to use a stable release but want to get bug fixes faster ==
packages will be updated more often, use apt source for Preliminary Stable
Builds:
deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity-sb stretch deps-r14 main-r14
If you want to participate in testing the development version == packages
will be updated more often and sometimes there may be some problems,
use apt source for Preliminary Testing Builds:
deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity-testing stretch deps main
[1] Final version is not available for distributions that have not yet been
published - such as Debian 10 (Buster). If you want to use it, you need to
use the Preliminary Stable Builds or Preliminary Testing Builds.
[2] The repository at http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb is the same as the
Preliminary Stable Builds.
[3] Currently, publishing new packages to Preliminary Stable Buidls is
suspended. Therefore, at this time Prelimary Stable Builds contain the
same version as the Final Release repository == R14.0.6. However, you
can soon expect the announcement that packages for the upcoming R14.0.7
will begin to flow into Preliminary Stable Builds.
It is understandable? Or still lost?
Cheers
--
Slávek
On Friday 12 April 2019 21:55:27 deloptes wrote:
Moi, je me sens aussi un peu perdu - I feel a bit lost too.
I have included the above lines in my sources.list - after update,
there is still no indication of packages to be upgraded.
Robert
andre_debian(a)numericable.fr wrote:
Always lost.
Are these lines below correct ?
(to have the last version 14.5 or 6) :
#trinity
deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb stretch deps-r14 main-r14
deb-src http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb stretch deps-r14 main-r14
Thanks,
André I'm lost.
what Slavek means is if you switch to the above, you will keep your
current 14.0.6 from preliminary stable build, because
http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb stretch deps-r14 main-r14
will go to 14.0.7 and you will get again more frequent updates of
trinity packages.
I think the wiki just needs to be updated as 14.0.6 came out
recently.
4:23 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: upgrade trinity
On Monday 15 April 2019 18:13:06 Slávek Banko wrote:
If you want to use a stable release but want to get
bug fixes faster ==
packages will be updated more often, use apt source for Preliminary Stable
Builds :
deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity-sb stretch deps-r14
main-r14
Only one line (above) in "/etc/apt/sources.list" ?
Thanks,
Regards,
André
4:36 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: upgrade trinity
Dne po 15. dubna 2019 andre_debian(a)numericable.fr napsal(a):
On Monday 15 April 2019 18:13:06 Slávek Banko wrote:
For normal use, only line with "deb" is enough. If you also want to have
source packages available, add a second line with "deb-src".
For Preliminary Stable Builds, "main-r14" and "deps-r14" are two
components within a single repository - so one line is enough.
For the Final Release, "main" and "build-deps" are as two separate
repositories - two separate addresses - must be on one line each.
Cheers
--
Slávek
If you want to use a stable release but want to
get bug fixes faster
== packages will be updated more often, use apt source for
Preliminary Stable Builds :
deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity-sb stretch deps-r14
main-r14
Only one line (above) in "/etc/apt/sources.list" ?
Thanks,
Regards,
André
6:13 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: upgrade trinity
On Monday 15 April 2019 18:36:01 Slávek Banko wrote:
For normal use, only line with "deb" is
enough. If you also want to have
source packages available, add a second line with "deb-src".
For Preliminary Stable Builds, "main-r14" and "deps-r14" are two
components within a single repository - so one line is enough.
For the Final Release, "main" and "build-deps" are as two separate
repositories - two separate addresses - must be on one line each.
# apt-get update apt-get upgrade
Would I have a conflict with my actual line ? :
deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb stretch deps-r14 main-r14
replaced by this line :
deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity-sb stretch deps-r14
Thanks,
Good evening , depends where we live :-)
André
16 Apr
16 Apr
11:43 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: upgrade trinity
On Monday 15 of April 2019 20:13:30 andre_debian(a)numericable.fr wrote:
On Monday 15 April 2019 18:36:01 Slávek Banko wrote:
Both of these apt sources are equal - both contain Preliminary Stable
Builds repository.
Note: I assume you also have the main-r14 component listed in the second
apt source?
Cheers
--
Slávek
For normal use, only line with "deb" is
enough. If you also want to
have source packages available, add a second line with "deb-src". For
Preliminary Stable Builds, "main-r14" and "deps-r14" are two
components within a single repository - so one line is enough. For
the Final Release, "main" and "build-deps" are as two separate
repositories - two separate addresses - must be on one line each.
# apt-get update apt-get upgrade
Would I have a conflict with my actual line ? :
deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb stretch deps-r14 main-r14
replaced by this line :
deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity-sb stretch deps-r14
Thanks,
Good evening , depends where we live :-)
André
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