My wife has finally decided to move off her XP system and over to linux. I am building a Ubuntu 14.04.02 TDE 14.0.0 machine for her use.
She needs MoneyDance. http://infinitekind.com/moneydance http://infinitekind.com/download-moneydance-personal-finance-software
It seemed to install ok. But, executing it the way the Desktop/moneydance.desktop shows it to be run: $ /bin/sh "/opt/Moneydance/Moneydance" [kcrash] TDECrash: Application 'output.logl-gtk-tqt-application' crashing... $
The crash seems to be in a TDE module. Right?
Any subsequent attempt to run moneydance (without re-booting) causes a "flicker" of something (a task window?) over the desktop and a return to the prompt -- no error message.
There is no other DE on this machine.
How to start the solving of this problem?
Thaks, Jonesy
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My wife has finally decided to move off her XP system and over to linux. I am building a Ubuntu 14.04.02 TDE 14.0.0 machine for her use.
She needs MoneyDance. http://infinitekind.com/moneydance http://infinitekind.com/download-moneydance-personal-finance-software
It seemed to install ok. But, executing it the way the Desktop/moneydance.desktop shows it to be run: $ /bin/sh "/opt/Moneydance/Moneydance" [kcrash] TDECrash: Application 'output.logl-gtk-tqt-application' crashing... $
The crash seems to be in a TDE module. Right?
Maybe, maybe not. Sometimes TDE "catches" the crash even though it's not responsible for it.
To verify, try running MoneyDance under gdb. If it crashes again, execute the 'bt' command and post the output here.
Tim
On Wed, 18 Mar 2015, Timothy Pearson wrote:
Jonesy wrote:
http://infinitekind.com/moneydance http://infinitekind.com/download-moneydance-personal-finance-software
It seemed to install ok. But, executing it the way the Desktop/moneydance.desktop shows it to be run: $ /bin/sh "/opt/Moneydance/Moneydance" [kcrash] TDECrash: Application 'output.logl-gtk-tqt-application' crashing... $
The crash seems to be in a TDE module. Right?
Maybe, maybe not. Sometimes TDE "catches" the crash even though it's not responsible for it.
To verify, try running MoneyDance under gdb. If it crashes again, execute the 'bt' command and post the output here.
Tim,
Thak you for the prompt reply! I know _nothing_ about running `gdb`. (In fact, it took a little effort to discover its "quit" command -- versus "exit".) Below are my failed efforts at attempting to run moneydance under gdb:
$ gdb Moneydance GNU gdb (Ubuntu 7.7.1-0ubuntu5~14.04.2) 7.7.1 ... "/usr/local/bin/Moneydance": not in executable format: File format not recognized (gdb) quit $ file /usr/local/bin/Moneydance /usr/local/bin/Moneydance: symbolic link to `/opt/Moneydance/Moneydance' $ gdb /opt/Moneydance/Moneydance GNU gdb (Ubuntu 7.7.1-0ubuntu5~14.04.2) 7.7.1 ... "/opt/Moneydance/Moneydance": not in executable format: File format not recognized (gdb) quit $ file /opt/Moneydance/Moneydance /opt/Moneydance/Moneydance: POSIX shell script, ASCII text executable, with very long lines $
So, then, not knowing anything about `gdb`, I tried the following
(the way moneydance.desktop executes it (/bin/sh >> dash)):
$ gdb /bin/sh "/opt/Moneydance/Moneydance" GNU gdb (Ubuntu 7.7.1-0ubuntu5~14.04.2) 7.7.1 ... Reading symbols from /bin/sh...(no debugging symbols found)...done. "/opt/Moneydance/Moneydance" is not a core dump: File format not recognized (gdb) quit $
And,
$ gdb "/bin/sh /opt/Moneydance/Moneydance" GNU gdb (Ubuntu 7.7.1-0ubuntu5~14.04.2) 7.7.1 ... /bin/sh /opt/Moneydance/Moneydance: No such file or directory. (gdb) quit $
Awaiting guidance from The More Knowledgeable.
Thanks, Jonesy
bump...
On Wed, 18 Mar 2015, Jonesy wrote:
On Wed, 18 Mar 2015, Timothy Pearson wrote:
Jonesy wrote:
http://infinitekind.com/moneydance http://infinitekind.com/download-moneydance-personal-finance-software
It seemed to install ok. But, executing it the way the Desktop/moneydance.desktop shows it to be run: $ /bin/sh "/opt/Moneydance/Moneydance" [kcrash] TDECrash: Application 'output.logl-gtk-tqt-application' crashing... $
The crash seems to be in a TDE module. Right?
Maybe, maybe not. Sometimes TDE "catches" the crash even though it's not responsible for it.
To verify, try running MoneyDance under gdb. If it crashes again, execute the 'bt' command and post the output here.
Tim,
Thak you for the prompt reply! I know _nothing_ about running `gdb`. (In fact, it took a little effort to discover its "quit" command -- versus "exit".) Below are my failed efforts at attempting to run moneydance under gdb:
$ gdb Moneydance GNU gdb (Ubuntu 7.7.1-0ubuntu5~14.04.2) 7.7.1 ... "/usr/local/bin/Moneydance": not in executable format: File format not recognized (gdb) quit $ file /usr/local/bin/Moneydance /usr/local/bin/Moneydance: symbolic link to `/opt/Moneydance/Moneydance' $ gdb /opt/Moneydance/Moneydance GNU gdb (Ubuntu 7.7.1-0ubuntu5~14.04.2) 7.7.1 ... "/opt/Moneydance/Moneydance": not in executable format: File format not recognized (gdb) quit $ file /opt/Moneydance/Moneydance /opt/Moneydance/Moneydance: POSIX shell script, ASCII text executable, with very long lines $
So, then, not knowing anything about `gdb`, I tried the following
(the way moneydance.desktop executes it (/bin/sh >> dash)):
$ gdb /bin/sh "/opt/Moneydance/Moneydance" GNU gdb (Ubuntu 7.7.1-0ubuntu5~14.04.2) 7.7.1 ... Reading symbols from /bin/sh...(no debugging symbols found)...done. "/opt/Moneydance/Moneydance" is not a core dump: File format not recognized (gdb) quit $
And,
$ gdb "/bin/sh /opt/Moneydance/Moneydance" GNU gdb (Ubuntu 7.7.1-0ubuntu5~14.04.2) 7.7.1 ... /bin/sh /opt/Moneydance/Moneydance: No such file or directory. (gdb) quit $
Awaiting guidance from The More Knowledgeable.
Thanks, Jonesy
Am Sonntag, 22. März 2015 schrieb Jonesy:
bump...
On Wed, 18 Mar 2015, Jonesy wrote:
On Wed, 18 Mar 2015, Timothy Pearson wrote:
Jonesy wrote:
http://infinitekind.com/moneydance http://infinitekind.com/download-moneydance-personal-finance-software
It seemed to install ok. But, executing it the way the Desktop/moneydance.desktop shows it to be run: $ /bin/sh "/opt/Moneydance/Moneydance" [kcrash] TDECrash: Application 'output.logl-gtk-tqt-application' crashing... $
The crash seems to be in a TDE module. Right?
Maybe, maybe not. Sometimes TDE "catches" the crash even though it's not responsible for it.
To verify, try running MoneyDance under gdb. If it crashes again, execute the 'bt' command and post the output here.
Tim,
Thak you for the prompt reply! I know _nothing_ about running `gdb`. (In fact, it took a little effort to discover its "quit" command -- versus "exit".) Below are my failed efforts at attempting to run moneydance under gdb:
$ gdb Moneydance GNU gdb (Ubuntu 7.7.1-0ubuntu5~14.04.2) 7.7.1 ... "/usr/local/bin/Moneydance": not in executable format: File format not recognized (gdb) quit $ file /usr/local/bin/Moneydance /usr/local/bin/Moneydance: symbolic link to `/opt/Moneydance/Moneydance' $ gdb /opt/Moneydance/Moneydance GNU gdb (Ubuntu 7.7.1-0ubuntu5~14.04.2) 7.7.1 ... "/opt/Moneydance/Moneydance": not in executable format: File format not recognized (gdb) quit $ file /opt/Moneydance/Moneydance /opt/Moneydance/Moneydance: POSIX shell script, ASCII text executable, with very long lines $
So, then, not knowing anything about `gdb`, I tried the following
(the way moneydance.desktop executes it (/bin/sh >> dash)):
$ gdb /bin/sh "/opt/Moneydance/Moneydance" GNU gdb (Ubuntu 7.7.1-0ubuntu5~14.04.2) 7.7.1 ... Reading symbols from /bin/sh...(no debugging symbols found)...done. "/opt/Moneydance/Moneydance" is not a core dump: File format not recognized (gdb) quit $
And,
$ gdb "/bin/sh /opt/Moneydance/Moneydance" GNU gdb (Ubuntu 7.7.1-0ubuntu5~14.04.2) 7.7.1 ... /bin/sh /opt/Moneydance/Moneydance: No such file or directory. (gdb) quit $
Awaiting guidance from The More Knowledgeable.
Thanks, Jonesy
You might try to unistall:
gtk-qt-engine-trinity gtk2-engines-gtk-qt-trinity gtk3-tqt-engine-trinity
Nik
On Sun, 22 Mar 2015, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Am Sonntag, 22. März 2015 schrieb Jonesy:
bump...
On Wed, 18 Mar 2015, Jonesy wrote:
On Wed, 18 Mar 2015, Timothy Pearson wrote:
Jonesy wrote:
http://infinitekind.com/moneydance http://infinitekind.com/download-moneydance-personal-finance-software
It seemed to install ok. But, executing it the way the Desktop/moneydance.desktop shows it to be run: $ /bin/sh "/opt/Moneydance/Moneydance" [kcrash] TDECrash: Application 'output.logl-gtk-tqt-application' crashing... $
The crash seems to be in a TDE module. Right?
Maybe, maybe not. Sometimes TDE "catches" the crash even though it's not responsible for it.
To verify, try running MoneyDance under gdb. If it crashes again, execute the 'bt' command and post the output here.
Tim,
Thak you for the prompt reply! I know _nothing_ about running `gdb`. (In fact, it took a little effort to discover its "quit" command -- versus "exit".) Below are my failed efforts at attempting to run moneydance under gdb:
$ gdb Moneydance GNU gdb (Ubuntu 7.7.1-0ubuntu5~14.04.2) 7.7.1 ... "/usr/local/bin/Moneydance": not in executable format: File format not recognized (gdb) quit $ file /usr/local/bin/Moneydance /usr/local/bin/Moneydance: symbolic link to `/opt/Moneydance/Moneydance' $ gdb /opt/Moneydance/Moneydance GNU gdb (Ubuntu 7.7.1-0ubuntu5~14.04.2) 7.7.1 ... "/opt/Moneydance/Moneydance": not in executable format: File format not recognized (gdb) quit $ file /opt/Moneydance/Moneydance /opt/Moneydance/Moneydance: POSIX shell script, ASCII text executable, with very long lines $
So, then, not knowing anything about `gdb`, I tried the following
(the way moneydance.desktop executes it (/bin/sh >> dash)):
$ gdb /bin/sh "/opt/Moneydance/Moneydance" GNU gdb (Ubuntu 7.7.1-0ubuntu5~14.04.2) 7.7.1 ... Reading symbols from /bin/sh...(no debugging symbols found)...done. "/opt/Moneydance/Moneydance" is not a core dump: File format not recognized (gdb) quit $
And,
$ gdb "/bin/sh /opt/Moneydance/Moneydance" GNU gdb (Ubuntu 7.7.1-0ubuntu5~14.04.2) 7.7.1 ... /bin/sh /opt/Moneydance/Moneydance: No such file or directory. (gdb) quit $
Awaiting guidance from The More Knowledgeable.
You might try to uninstall:
gtk-qt-engine-trinity gtk2-engines-gtk-qt-trinity gtk3-tqt-engine-trinity
Thank you, Nik!
Only gtk-qt-engine-trinity was installed -- but, then, you knew only one would be there - didn't you? :-)
This scared me: |The following packages will be REMOVED: | gtk-qt-engine-trinity kubuntu-desktop-trinity |After this operation, 573 kB disk space will be freed.
At first glance it seemed all of the Trinity TDE would be removed. But, no. Trinity may be small, tight, and fast -- but it sure is NOT just 573 kB! :-)
So, after removing gtk-qt-engine-trinity & kubuntu-desktop-trinity, Moneydance now comes up without any error(s). We've yet to see if it actually runs properly. My wife will need to export files from her old XP box and then we'll try to import them on the Ubuntu/Trinity machine.
But, I do have a new question: What functionality or feature(s) have I lost by removing gtk-qt-engine-trinity and kubuntu-desktop-trinity? The names certainly _sound_ important. I haven't yet see anything "different" in operations in the short period of time after the removals.
Again, Thank you! Jonesy
Am Montag, 23. März 2015 schrieb Jonesy:
On Sun, 22 Mar 2015, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Am Sonntag, 22. März 2015 schrieb Jonesy:
bump...
On Wed, 18 Mar 2015, Jonesy wrote:
On Wed, 18 Mar 2015, Timothy Pearson wrote:
Jonesy wrote:
http://infinitekind.com/moneydance http://infinitekind.com/download-moneydance-personal-finance-software
It seemed to install ok. But, executing it the way the Desktop/moneydance.desktop shows it to be run: $ /bin/sh "/opt/Moneydance/Moneydance" [kcrash] TDECrash: Application 'output.logl-gtk-tqt-application' crashing... $
The crash seems to be in a TDE module. Right?
Maybe, maybe not. Sometimes TDE "catches" the crash even though it's not responsible for it.
To verify, try running MoneyDance under gdb. If it crashes again, execute the 'bt' command and post the output here.
Tim,
Thak you for the prompt reply! I know _nothing_ about running `gdb`. (In fact, it took a little effort to discover its "quit" command -- versus "exit".) Below are my failed efforts at attempting to run moneydance under gdb:
$ gdb Moneydance GNU gdb (Ubuntu 7.7.1-0ubuntu5~14.04.2) 7.7.1 ... "/usr/local/bin/Moneydance": not in executable format: File format not recognized (gdb) quit $ file /usr/local/bin/Moneydance /usr/local/bin/Moneydance: symbolic link to `/opt/Moneydance/Moneydance' $ gdb /opt/Moneydance/Moneydance GNU gdb (Ubuntu 7.7.1-0ubuntu5~14.04.2) 7.7.1 ... "/opt/Moneydance/Moneydance": not in executable format: File format not recognized (gdb) quit $ file /opt/Moneydance/Moneydance /opt/Moneydance/Moneydance: POSIX shell script, ASCII text executable, with very long lines $
> So, then, not knowing anything about `gdb`, I tried the following
(the way moneydance.desktop executes it (/bin/sh >> dash)):
$ gdb /bin/sh "/opt/Moneydance/Moneydance" GNU gdb (Ubuntu 7.7.1-0ubuntu5~14.04.2) 7.7.1 ... Reading symbols from /bin/sh...(no debugging symbols found)...done. "/opt/Moneydance/Moneydance" is not a core dump: File format not recognized (gdb) quit $
> And,
$ gdb "/bin/sh /opt/Moneydance/Moneydance" GNU gdb (Ubuntu 7.7.1-0ubuntu5~14.04.2) 7.7.1 ... /bin/sh /opt/Moneydance/Moneydance: No such file or directory. (gdb) quit $
Awaiting guidance from The More Knowledgeable.
You might try to uninstall:
gtk-qt-engine-trinity gtk2-engines-gtk-qt-trinity gtk3-tqt-engine-trinity
Thank you, Nik!
Only gtk-qt-engine-trinity was installed -- but, then, you knew only one would be there - didn't you? :-)
This scared me: |The following packages will be REMOVED: | gtk-qt-engine-trinity kubuntu-desktop-trinity |After this operation, 573 kB disk space will be freed.
At first glance it seemed all of the Trinity TDE would be removed. But, no. Trinity may be small, tight, and fast -- but it sure is NOT just 573 kB! :-)
So, after removing gtk-qt-engine-trinity & kubuntu-desktop-trinity, Moneydance now comes up without any error(s). We've yet to see if it actually runs properly. My wife will need to export files from her old XP box and then we'll try to import them on the Ubuntu/Trinity machine.
But, I do have a new question: What functionality or feature(s) have I lost by removing gtk-qt-engine-trinity and kubuntu-desktop-trinity?
You've lost nothing, as far as I know :-)
Nik
The names certainly _sound_ important. I haven't yet see anything "different" in operations in the short period of time after the removals.
Again, Thank you! Jonesy
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