20 Dec
2013
20 Dec
'13
5:32 p.m.
Hello all,
I would like to install Trinity Desktop Environment release
Wheezy [Debian 7.0] (v3.5.13.2) on freshly installed
Debian 7.3.0 (by means of 3 DVD installation discs).
Architecture is amd64 with 64GB RAM.
Followed verbatim Debian Trinity Repository Installation Instructions.
I'm stuck at the very beginning with following error message:
root@deb:~# apt-get install desktop-base-trinity kde-trinity
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
kde-trinity : Depends: kde-core-trinity (>= 5:47) but it is not going
to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
root@deb:~#
I found some interesting posts on the list in regards of similar issue:
http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::5093
But, my question is whether it got solved finally?
At this stage of system I would not tamper unnecessarily,
basically just to avoid new install.
Could you please provide some guidance, how to overcome presented issue?
Best regards.
Tom - sp2lob
20 Dec
20 Dec
6:41 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE on freshly installed Debian 7.3.0 issue...
On 12/20/2013 09:32 AM, sp2lob wrote:
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken
packages.
What's up with the held broken packages? That's where I'd look first.
Other than that I can't offer any help, except to note that I've installed
TDE on several new Wheezy installs, without problems.
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6:57 p.m.
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Hello Dan
Well, I mentioned that it is Debian-7.3.0
released just on December 15-th 2013.
And it's very likely the cause of issue.
Anyway, thanks for your input.
Best regards.
Tom - sp2lob
7:33 p.m.
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On 12/20/2013 10:57 AM, sp2lob wrote:
Well, I mentioned that it is Debian-7.3.0
released just on December 15-th 2013.
And it's very likely the cause of issue.
7.3 is the same as any Debian 7 (Wheezy) that's fully updated to the point
when they released 7.3. So when I install 7.2, and then update it, I have
the same thing you have when you install 7.3 and then update it.
So, I would still look at the held broken packages first.
(I still use 7.2 because I use the live disk with nonfree drivers from
http://live.debian.net . They don't have 7.3 yet.)
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7:53 p.m.
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On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 18:32:53 +0100
sp2lob <sp2lob(a)tlen.pl> wrote:
I would like to install Trinity Desktop Environment
release
Wheezy [Debian 7.0] (v3.5.13.2) on freshly installed
Debian 7.3.0 (by means of 3 DVD installation discs).
Architecture is amd64 with 64GB RAM.
Followed verbatim Debian Trinity Repository Installation Instructions.
I'm stuck at the very beginning with following error message:
root@deb:~# apt-get install desktop-base-trinity kde-trinity
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
root@deb:~#
At this stage of system I would not tamper unnecessarily,
basically just to avoid new install.
Could you please provide some guidance, how to overcome presented issue?
Unless you are using only official debian repositories and never
install anything from anywhere else - never use apt, only aptitude. Even if
it is unable to deal with your package mess - it will at least tell you
what exactly is wrong.
Btw, broken held packages on FRESH install?! I think you are omitting
something there...
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8:20 p.m.
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Hello Nick,
I installed Debian-7.3.0 from 3 DVD discks downloaded from:
http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/
So, this is VERY official Debian repository.
So far, I do not allow updates/installs from Internet,
ONLY from a/m DVD discs.
Trying to install trinity using Synaptic (still from DVD's!)
when I mark for installation kde-core-trinity package
it get marked with RED square, while other dependent packages get
marked with yellow arrow and whole line enlighten with green background.
Then after clicking Apply button message appears:
Could not apply changes! Fix broken packages first.
Next, choosing Edit -> Fix broken packages - another pop-up message:
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks,
this may be caused by held packages.
E: Unable to correct dependencies
Once more, system installed from 3 DVD discs!!!
Following your suggestion will try with aptitude,
because I'm used to use apt-get most of the time.
Thank you for suggestions.
Best regards.
9:46 p.m.
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On 12/20/2013 12:20 PM, sp2lob wrote:
Trying to install trinity using Synaptic (still from
DVD's!)
The Debian DVD's have Trinity on them??
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10:15 p.m.
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On Friday 20 December 2013 20:20:17 sp2lob wrote:
ONLY from a/m DVD discs.
Did you check the disks? md5sum? sha256sum? It sounds to me as
though there may be something amiss with the insatll DVDs you are
using. Or perhaos a hardware fault.
I too have installed TDE on three new Wheezy systems in the recent
past. But I use netinstall for Debian. I had no problems on any of
them. My own box I was able just to upgrade from Squeeze. Again, no
problems.
What does a/m mean in this context?
Lisi
10:20 p.m.
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On Friday 20 December 2013 22:15:28 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Friday 20 December 2013 20:20:17 sp2lob wrote:
> ONLY from a/m DVD discs.
What does a/m mean in this context?
Lisi
Antimeridian (before midday)
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Baron.
10:54 p.m.
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Hello Lisi,
Meaning of a/m in this context is: above mentioned.
May be I should write it as: a.m
No, I didn't check neither md5sum nor sha256sum.
Will do as soon as possible.
Well, you're doing netinstall.
I can not for many reasons. That's why DVD discs.
Thank you for your suggestions.
Best regards.
Tom - sp2lob
11:27 p.m.
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On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 5:54 PM, sp2lob <sp2lob(a)tlen.pl> wrote:
Well, you're doing netinstall.
I can not for many reasons. That's why DVD discs.
My only thought in this is that there may be a package needed by
Trinity that is not on DVD#s 1-3 (although I cannot imagine how!), and
it's showing up as "held" because it's not in the available archive.
I assume if you can't network-install, you also can't network-update.
As a side note, this couldn't be related to being a 64bit system?
Maybe a :i386 library is required by accident?
Curt-
11:29 p.m.
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On Friday 20 December 2013 22:20:42 Baron wrote:
On Friday 20 December 2013 22:15:28 Lisi Reisz wrote:
1. The acronym for ante meridian is a.m. not a/m.
2. I specifically mentioned the context. "Only from ante meridian
DVD disks" would be nonsense.
Lisi
On Friday 20 December 2013 20:20:17 sp2lob
wrote:
Antimeridian (before midday) ONLY from a/m DVD discs.
What does a/m mean in this context?
Lisi
11:32 p.m.
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On Friday 20 December 2013 22:54:27 sp2lob wrote:
Meaning of a/m in this context is: above mentioned.
May be I should write it as: a.m
If you want to be understood I should write: above mentioned. This is
an international list. Abbreviations are rarely understood by
everybody! In this case, if you had typed "the" instead of a/m it
would have made sense - and been no more typing!
Lisi
11:34 p.m.
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On Friday 20 December 2013 23:27:42 Curt Howland wrote:
As a side note, this couldn't be related to being
a 64bit system?
Maybe a :i386 library is required by accident?
I can't speak for a DVD install. But I have TDE 3.5.2 on all four of
the systems I administer. Two of them are 32 bit and two of them are
64bit. All are fine.
Lisi
21 Dec
21 Dec
12:13 a.m.
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Hello Curt et al,
Well, step by step I managed to install TDE, Hi!
One of the reasons was:
kdebase-trinity : Depends: xcalib which is a virtual package.
^^^^^^
Many thanks to all persons involved for taking your time.
Now it's time to get some sleep.
Have a nice saturday.
Best regards.
Tom - sp2lob
12:30 a.m.
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On Friday 20 December 2013 23:34:31 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Friday 20 December 2013 23:27:42 Curt Howland
wrote:
3.5.13.2. :-( It's long past my bedtime. :-(
As a side note, this couldn't be related to
being a 64bit system?
Maybe a :i386 library is required by accident?
I can't speak for a DVD install. But I have TDE 3.5.2 on all four
of the systems I administer. Two of them are 32 bit and two of
them are 64bit. All are fine.
Lisi
1:07 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE on freshly installed Debian 7.3.0 issue...
Il 20/12/2013 21.20, sp2lob ha scritto:
Hello Nick,
I installed Debian-7.3.0 from 3 DVD discks downloaded from:
http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/
So, this is VERY official Debian repository.
So far, I do not allow updates/installs from Internet,
ONLY from a/m DVD discs.
Workaround
Check your DVD.
- Install Debian on a similar amd64 networked computer
- update debian
- install trinity
- check all is working
- copy the deb package in /var/cache/apt/archives on no-networked
computer directory (local-apt)
- create a local repository on (local-apt)
- update debian
- install trinity
- check all is working
Rodolfo
7:25 p.m.
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Hi Lisi,
On Friday 20 December 2013 23:29:17 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Friday 20 December 2013 22:20:42 Baron wrote:
I think Tom meant "installed this morning from DVD"...
But I'm sure he will correct me if I am mistaken.
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Best Regards:
Baron.
On Friday 20 December 2013 22:15:28 Lisi Reisz
wrote:
1. The acronym for ante meridian is a.m. not a/m.
2. I specifically mentioned the context. "Only from ante meridian
DVD disks" would be nonsense.
Lisi On Friday 20 December 2013 20:20:17 sp2lob
wrote:
Antimeridian (before midday) ONLY from a/m DVD discs.
What does a/m mean in this context?
Lisi
8:50 p.m.
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On Saturday 21 December 2013 19:25:28 Baron wrote:
Hi Lisi,
On Friday 20 December 2013 23:29:17 Lisi Reisz wrote:
No - he says himself that a/m means "above mentioned". The point is
that it failed to install properly from the DVDs he had previously
mentioned. I did suggest that it was a trifle obscure!
Some of the emails must be failing to get through to you. No doubt
there are others which are not getting through to me!
Happy $FESTIVAL to all!
Lisi
Lisi
On Friday 20 December 2013 22:20:42 Baron wrote:
I think Tom meant "installed this morning from DVD"...
But I'm sure he will correct me if I am mistaken. On Friday 20 December 2013 22:15:28 Lisi Reisz
wrote:
1. The acronym for ante meridian is a.m. not a/m.
2. I specifically mentioned the context. "Only from ante
meridian DVD disks" would be nonsense.
Lisi On Friday 20 December 2013 20:20:17 sp2lob
wrote:
> ONLY from a/m DVD discs.
What does a/m mean in this context?
Lisi
Antimeridian (before midday)
10 p.m.
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Hi Lisi,
On Saturday 21 December 2013 20:50:29 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Saturday 21 December 2013 19:25:28 Baron wrote:
Thanks for the clarification. I agree it was obscure. My
interpretation probably confused things even more.
That aside... Thank you for your good wishes.
To you and all listers. A very merry christmas.
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Best Regards:
Baron.
Hi Lisi,
On Friday 20 December 2013 23:29:17 Lisi Reisz wrote:
No - he says himself that a/m means "above mentioned". The point is
that it failed to install properly from the DVDs he had previously
mentioned. I did suggest that it was a trifle obscure!
Some of the emails must be failing to get through to you. No doubt
there are others which are not getting through to me!
Happy $FESTIVAL to all!
Lisi On Friday 20 December 2013 22:20:42 Baron wrote:
I think Tom meant "installed this morning from DVD"...
But I'm sure he will correct me if I am mistaken. On Friday 20 December 2013 22:15:28 Lisi Reisz
wrote:
> On Friday 20 December 2013 20:20:17 sp2lob wrote:
> > ONLY from a/m DVD discs.
>
> What does a/m mean in this context?
>
> Lisi
Antimeridian (before midday)
1. The acronym for ante meridian is a.m. not a/m.
2. I specifically mentioned the context. "Only from ante
meridian DVD disks" would be nonsense.
Lisi 
22 Dec
22 Dec
12:44 a.m.
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The problem here is simply that you are trying to install what you do
not have the required dependencies for. The problem is not Wheezy 7.3,
dpkg/apt nor TDE.. What is on these dvd's is not enough. It does not
matter whether you use apt-get or aptitude.
If you can't network this box to the repos all you can do is identify
exactly what packages are missing, download them from another networked
box to a removable, then transfer them to /var/cache/apt/archives.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
kde-trinity : Depends: kde-core-trinity (>= 5:47) but it is not going
to be installed
Clue: find out why kde-core-trinity won't install and work back from
there. I have had to do this many times, working with TDE and Debian
Sid. Good luck to you! It will be hard work.
D
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