I am running in a new problem. Being old fashioned I still like seamonkey because it offers browswer+mail.
However the fonts, especially of the summary lines in mail are very small. I changed all the fonts I can think of, first in seamonkey and then in the trinity setting but no result the fonts size in the message itself I can change but not of the summary buffer.
Anybody has an idea?
Regards
Uwe Brauer
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"UB" == Uwe Brauer oub@mat.ucm.es writes:
I am running in a new problem. Being old fashioned I still like seamonkey because it offers browswer+mail.
However the fonts, especially of the summary lines in mail are very small. I changed all the fonts I can think of, first in seamonkey and then in the trinity setting but no result the fonts size in the message itself I can change but not of the summary buffer.
Anybody has an idea?
I just checked in ubuntuu (gnome) I can using the gnome-tweak tool enhance the fonts, but trinity seems not to influence the seamonkey fonts (and of course I changed these also)
On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 19:42:28 +0200 Uwe Brauer oub@mat.ucm.es wrote:
"UB" == Uwe Brauer oub@mat.ucm.es writes:
I am running in a new problem. Being old fashioned I still like seamonkey because it offers browswer+mail.
However the fonts, especially of the summary lines in mail are very small. I changed all the fonts I can think of, first in seamonkey and then in the trinity setting but no result the fonts size in the message itself I can change but not of the summary buffer.
Anybody has an idea?
I just checked in ubuntuu (gnome) I can using the gnome-tweak tool enhance the fonts, but trinity seems not to influence the seamonkey fonts (and of course I changed these also)
Seamonkey and the other Firefox-family browsers are GTK-based. TDE is not. You can sort of control GTK themes from the Trinity Control Center by installing gtk3-tqt-engine and gtk-qt-engine, but these are buggy and can cause other problems.
The other options are to find a desktop-agnostic GTK themer (if such a program exists), or hand-editing GTK theme files.
E. Liddell
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On Tuesday 22 September 2020 12:34:15 E. Liddell via tde-users wrote:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 19:42:28 +0200
Uwe Brauer oub@mat.ucm.es wrote:
"UB" == Uwe Brauer oub@mat.ucm.es writes:
I am running in a new problem. Being old fashioned I still like seamonkey because it offers browswer+mail.
However the fonts, especially of the summary lines in mail are very small. I changed all the fonts I can think of, first in seamonkey and then in the trinity setting but no result the fonts size in the message itself I can change but not of the summary buffer.
Anybody has an idea?
I just checked in ubuntuu (gnome) I can using the gnome-tweak tool enhance the fonts, but trinity seems not to influence the seamonkey fonts (and of course I changed these also)
Seamonkey and the other Firefox-family browsers are GTK-based. TDE is not. You can sort of control GTK themes from the Trinity Control Center by installing gtk3-tqt-engine and gtk-qt-engine, but these are buggy and can cause other problems.
The other options are to find a desktop-agnostic GTK themer (if such a program exists), or hand-editing GTK theme files.
E. Liddell
I use Seamonkey for only one thing, which is a very obscure and hard-to-find blog. I did notice that the fonts are rather small for the general gui, but for the pages themselves I use css to force my preferences -- fonts were one of my headaches at the time -- and this was on recommendation of the maintainer of the network.
So I don't know much about it, and might be completely off-base, but if a css solution would work, I'd be glad to share mine, or find out more about it.
Bill
On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 19:42:28 +0200 Uwe Brauer oub@mat.ucm.es wrote:
Seamonkey and the other Firefox-family browsers are GTK-based. TDE is not. You can sort of control GTK themes from the Trinity Control Center by installing gtk3-tqt-engine and gtk-qt-engine, but these are buggy and can cause other problems.
Suppose I install them, do you know which commands take care of the configuration?
On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 22:23:34 +0200 Uwe Brauer oub@mat.ucm.es wrote:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 19:42:28 +0200 Uwe Brauer oub@mat.ucm.es wrote:
Seamonkey and the other Firefox-family browsers are GTK-based. TDE is not. You can sort of control GTK themes from the Trinity Control Center by installing gtk3-tqt-engine and gtk-qt-engine, but these are buggy and can cause other problems.
Suppose I install them, do you know which commands take care of the configuration?
I haven't used either one in a very long time. gtk-qt-engine (for GTK2) used to add a settings page to the "Appearance and Themes" section of the Control Center. I can't remember what the label was, but it was pretty obvious. For gtk3-tqt-engine, I have no idea—can someone else tell us whether it adds to the Control Center in the same way, or does something else?
gtk3-tqt-engine might even supersede gtk-qt-engine. If you're going to try this, install gtk3-tqt-engine alone first.
E. Liddell
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On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 22:23:34 +0200 Uwe Brauer oub@mat.ucm.es wrote:
I haven't used either one in a very long time. gtk-qt-engine (for GTK2) used to add a settings page to the "Appearance and Themes" section of the Control Center. I can't remember what the label was, but it was pretty obvious. For gtk3-tqt-engine, I have no idea—can someone else tell us whether it adds to the Control Center in the same way, or does something else?
Installing the gtk-qt-engine was sufficient for Ubuntu 16.04 I hope the same is true for Ubuntu 20.04 (but it might rely on qtk3 and then I am not sure how to proceed, but I will have to try it out.
Thanks for your help
gtk3-tqt-engine might even supersede gtk-qt-engine. If you're going to try this, install gtk3-tqt-engine alone first.
E. Liddell
Uwe Brauer via tde-users composed on 2020-09-22 19:32 (UTC+0200):
I am running in a new problem. Being old fashioned I still like seamonkey because it offers browswer+mail.
However the fonts, especially of the summary lines in mail are very small. I changed all the fonts I can think of, first in seamonkey and then in the trinity setting but no result the fonts size in the message itself I can change but not of the summary buffer.
Anybody has an idea?
SeaMonkey has been the only email client I've ever used since the name change from Mozilla Suite to SeaMonkey. Before that I only used Mozilla Suite after Netscape 4 went out of support. My first ever email client was Netscape 2. Since SeaMonkey was actually the Netscape Inc. internal codename for Netscape the browser/email/composer/address book suite, it actually turns out SeaMonkey is the only email client I've ever used (not counting webmail), 23 years so far.
All that said, which SeaMonkey *are* you using, version and source (package manager vs. mozilla.org)? Exactly which where you using before the current problem manifested?
What does "inxi -GMSay" report (you'll get error messages if not using the latest or a very very recent version from upstream, currently 3.1.06)?
What does "dpkg-query -l | grep -i gtk | sort" report?
All that said, I'm not using SeaMonkey Mail in TDE, but in KDE3 on openSUSE, where I have 2.53.4 (browser & CZ) and 2.49.5 (browser & mail) running 24/7/365 give or take. I do have TDE running on lots of other installations on other hardware, but I don't use any web browsers on them very often, and virtually never do email except with this my primary box.
That said, what WFM might work for you, once we know what your environmental details are. One stopper could be Gnome/GTK's insistence on setting Xft.dpi to 96 unless explicitly overridden (it's Gnome's scaling device), which doesn't happen in openSUSE (unless maybe running Gnome, which I never do, and shouldn't affect TDE anyway), and could be your only problem.
It's probably going to be best that you change all your fonts customizations back to whatever they started at before making any suggested changes to come after I see your answers.
Your OP as I see it (using a 24" 1920x1200 screen): http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/emailUWE20200922.png Note that it shows you didn't send it using SeaMonkey Mail.
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