7 Jul
2022
7 Jul
'22
9:26 a.m.
OK, I'm looking like a newbie there, but I'm willing to learn :)
Short story:
I had a Thinkpad running Buster
Today upgraded it to Bullseye, went fine
Then I removed xfce (I guess this was the problematic move).
Now my system boots to a prompt: login:
If I do login, then startx, I get TDE.
I've tried "systemctl set-default graphical.target" but no change. I know I
can reinstall my backup but I'm sure there's someone here who will point me
to the right way to start with the TDE login manager.
Note that after removing xfce, at first it *did* boot to TDE login. Then it
stopped doing it, and startx boot to... Gnome. I then removed Gnome and ran
dpkg-reconfigure, so now startx starts TDE... but I have to login and
startx. I'm a bit lost :(
Thierry
7 Jul
7 Jul
10:05 a.m.
Thierry de Coulon wrote:
OK, I'm looking like a newbie there, but I'm
willing to learn :)
Short story:
I had a Thinkpad running Buster
Today upgraded it to Bullseye, went fine
Then I removed xfce (I guess this was the problematic move).
Now my system boots to a prompt: login:
If I do login, then startx, I get TDE.
I've tried "systemctl set-default graphical.target" but no change. I know
I
can reinstall my backup but I'm sure there's someone here who will point me
to the right way to start with the TDE login manager.
Note that after removing xfce, at first it *did* boot to TDE login. Then it
stopped doing it, and startx boot to... Gnome. I then removed Gnome and ran
dpkg-reconfigure, so now startx starts TDE... but I have to login and
startx. I'm a bit lost :(
Thierry
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Hi Thierry,
can you check if "tdm" is installed ("sudo dpkg -l | grep tdm")? If
not, you
could try installing it again via "sudo apt install tdm-trinity".
If it is already installed, you could try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity"
to set it as the default after bootup.
If there's still no graphical login screen after bootup, check "sudo systemctl
status tdm" and "sudo journalctl -u tdm" after logging in on the text
interface for any hints or errors.
Best regards, Leskala
11:37 a.m.
Hi Leskala,
On Thursday 07 July 2022 12.05:32 Leskala via tde-users wrote:
can you check if "tdm" is installed
("sudo dpkg -l | grep tdm")? If not,
you could try installing it again via "sudo apt install tdm-trinity".
tdm-trinity is installed. As I have no other DM installed I could not start
TDE without it - but I checked, it's there.
If it is already installed, you could try "sudo
dpkg-reconfigure
tdm-trinity" to set it as the default after bootup.
This I allready did. Did not work
If there's still no graphical login screen after
bootup, check "sudo
systemctl status tdm"
tdm.service is loaded and active
and "sudo journalctl -u tdm" after logging
in on the
text interface for any hints or errors.
says "started Trinity Display Manager"
Best regards, Leskala
So the problem seems not with TDM, but why Debian now decides I want a text
login and not a graphical login. I tried what I found ordre systemd to use a
graphical login, but it does not work...
Thierry
12:26 p.m.
Thierry de Coulon wrote:
So the problem seems not with TDM, but why Debian now
decides I want a
text login and not a graphical login. I tried what I found ordre systemd
to use a graphical login, but it does not work...
could be that systemd is hanging and not completing the TDM startup?
And is X running?
$ ps -faxuww | grep X
root 1561 1.8 1.7 593956 135708 tty7 Ssl+ May24 1165:41
\_ /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg -br -deferglyphs 16 -nolisten tcp :0
vt7 -auth /var/run/xauth/A:0-G37jac
12:48 p.m.
Anno domini 2022 Thu, 07 Jul 14:26:21 +0200
deloptes scripsit:
Thierry de Coulon wrote:
Check if there's xserver-xorg installed at all - might well be that XFCE took the
whole Xorg with it.
nik
So the problem seems not with TDM, but why Debian
now decides I want a
text login and not a graphical login. I tried what I found ordre systemd
to use a graphical login, but it does not work...
could be that systemd is hanging and not completing the TDM startup?
And is X running?
$ ps -faxuww | grep X
root 1561 1.8 1.7 593956 135708 tty7 Ssl+ May24 1165:41
\_ /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg -br -deferglyphs 16 -nolisten tcp :0
vt7 -auth /var/run/xauth/A:0-G37jac
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1:05 p.m.
On Thursday 07 July 2022 14.26:21 deloptes wrote:
Thierry de Coulon wrote:
I get :
root 847 0.0 0.0 6180 648 tty1
S+ 15:03 0:00 |_ grep X
but I don't know what it means...
Thierry
So the problem seems not with TDM, but why Debian
now decides I want a
text login and not a graphical login. I tried what I found ordre systemd
to use a graphical login, but it does not work...
could be that systemd is hanging and not completing the TDM startup?
And is X running?
$ ps -faxuww | grep X
1:39 p.m.
On Thursday 07 July 2022 15.15:44 deloptes wrote:
Thierry de Coulon wrote:
Then how can startx... start X if it's not there.
So my problem is that X is not started autoaticaly, that's where I must
search.
Thierry
I get :
root 847 0.0 0.0 6180 648 tty1
S+ 15:03 0:00 |_ grep X
but I don't know what it means...
It means you don't have X server - look what Nik wrote
BR 
1:44 p.m.
On Thursday 07 of July 2022 15:39:31 Thierry de Coulon wrote:
On Thursday 07 July 2022 15.15:44 deloptes wrote:
Hi Thierry,
because you write Bullseye, I suppose you have systemd => you can
try "systemctl status tdm", if there will be some useful information. You
can also look at /var/log/tdm.log and /var/log/XOrg.*.log, if there are
any other information.
Cheers
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Thierry de Coulon wrote:
Then how can startx... start X if it's not there.
So my problem is that X is not started autoaticaly, that's where I must
search.
Thierry
____________________________________________________ I get :
root 847 0.0 0.0 6180 648
tty1 S+ 15:03 0:00 |_ grep X
but I don't know what it means...
It means you don't have X server - look what Nik wrote
BR
2:10 p.m.
On Thursday 07 July 2022 15.44:58 Slávek Banko wrote:
Hi Thierry,
because you write Bullseye, I suppose you have systemd => you can
try "systemctl status tdm", if there will be some useful information. You
can also look at /var/log/tdm.log and /var/log/XOrg.*.log, if there are
any other information.
Cheers
Thank you Salvek,
I allready did this, and even tried tasksel - somewhere, deep in Debian is a
setting no one seems to know. OK, enough time "lost". I'm writing back the
backup and starting from there, it's easier.
Thank you all for the help - I did learn afew things on the trip.
Thierry
1:55 p.m.
Anno domini 2022 Thu, 7 Jul 15:39:31 +0200
Thierry de Coulon scripsit:
On Thursday 07 July 2022 15.15:44 deloptes wrote:
# apt install xserver-xorg
Nik
Thierry de Coulon wrote:
Then how can startx... start X if it's not there. I get :
root 847 0.0 0.0 6180 648 tty1
S+ 15:03 0:00 |_ grep X
but I don't know what it means...
It means you don't have X server - look what Nik wrote
BR
So my problem is that X is not started autoaticaly, that's where I must
search.
Thierry
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4:55 p.m.
Thierry de Coulon wrote:
Hi Leskala,
On Thursday 07 July 2022 12.05:32 Leskala via tde-users wrote:
Hi Thierry,
what is the output of "sudo systemctl get-default"?
In case it is not "graphical.target", you could try "systemctl set-default
graphical.target"
Best regards, Leskala
can you check if "tdm" is installed
("sudo dpkg -l | grep tdm")? If not,
you could try installing it again via "sudo apt install tdm-trinity".
tdm-trinity is installed. As I have no other DM installed I could not start
TDE without it - but I checked, it's there.
If it is already installed, you could try
"sudo dpkg-reconfigure
tdm-trinity" to set it as the default after bootup.
This I allready did. Did not work
If there's still no graphical login screen
after bootup, check "sudo
systemctl status tdm"
tdm.service is loaded and active
and "sudo journalctl -u tdm" after
logging in on the
text interface for any hints or errors.
says "started Trinity Display Manager"
Best regards, Leskala
So the problem seems not with TDM, but why Debian now decides I want a text
login and not a graphical login. I tried what I found ordre systemd to use
a graphical login, but it does not work...
Thierry
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6:16 p.m.
On Thursday 07 July 2022 18.55:14 Leskala via tde-users wrote:
what is the output of "sudo systemctl
get-default"?
In case it is not "graphical.target", you could try "systemctl
set-default
graphical.target"
I had tried to set the defalut to graphical, did not work.
I gave up and reinstalled my backup, re-ugraded and everything is working. I
guess I'll keep xfce in the backoffice, even if it's not being used.
Thierry
7:53 p.m.
Anno domini 2022 Thu, 7 Jul 20:16:45 +0200
Thierry de Coulon scripsit:
On Thursday 07 July 2022 18.55:14 Leskala via
tde-users wrote:
You just need to (re)install xserver-xorg.
Option one: # apt-mark manual xserver-xorg
Option two: # apt install xserver-xorg
Nik
what is the output of "sudo systemctl
get-default"?
In case it is not "graphical.target", you could try "systemctl
set-default
graphical.target"
I had tried to set the defalut to graphical, did not work.
I gave up and reinstalled my backup, re-ugraded and everything is working. I
guess I'll keep xfce in the backoffice, even if it's not being used.
Thierry
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