When I accidentaly roll my mouse wheel when the pointer is over the desktop pager, it changes desktop (I suppose it's the intended behaviour).
In the pager's option there is a checkbox about changing desktop with the wheel when the pointer is over the desktop background (and it works).
Is there a setiing to block this wheel beaviour also on the page?
Thierry
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On 2018/08/25 05:50 PM, Thierry de Coulon wrote:
When I accidentaly roll my mouse wheel when the pointer is over the desktop pager, it changes desktop (I suppose it's the intended behaviour).
In the pager's option there is a checkbox about changing desktop with the wheel when the pointer is over the desktop background (and it works).
Is there a setiing to block this wheel beaviour also on the page?
Thierry
Not sure what the question is. When you are on a window, using the mouse wheel will scroll the content of the window, if possible. Probably I am not understanding the question, I guess. Cheers Michele
Hi Thierry,
Am Samstag 25 August 2018 schrieb Thierry de Coulon:
When I accidentaly roll my mouse wheel when the pointer is over the desktop pager, it changes desktop (I suppose it's the intended behaviour).
In the pager's option there is a checkbox about changing desktop with the wheel when the pointer is over the desktop background (and it works).
Is there a setiing to block this wheel beaviour also on the page?
I'm also not sure what you mean by "page". In case you mean desktop, there is a control in:
TDE control center -> Desktop -> Multiple Desktops -> checkbox: "Mouse wheel over desktop background switches desktop"
Maybe, I'm only guessing here, that's what you're looking for.
HTH
Kind regards, Stefan
On Saturday 25 August 2018 05:46:16 Stefan Krusche wrote:
Hi Thierry,
Am Samstag 25 August 2018 schrieb Thierry de Coulon:
When I accidentaly roll my mouse wheel when the pointer is over the desktop pager, it changes desktop (I suppose it's the intended behaviour).
In the pager's option there is a checkbox about changing desktop with the wheel when the pointer is over the desktop background (and it works).
Is there a setiing to block this wheel beaviour also on the page?
I'm also not sure what you mean by "page". In case you mean desktop, there is a control in:
TDE control center -> Desktop -> Multiple Desktops -> checkbox: "Mouse wheel over desktop background switches desktop"
Maybe, I'm only guessing here, that's what you're looking for.
HTH
Kind regards, Stefan
Also there is a simpler way.
Just right-click on the desktop pager itself, look for *pager options*, and unclick the box that reads "cycle on wheel".
Bill
Am Samstag 25 August 2018 schrieb William Morder:
Just right-click on the desktop pager itself, look for *pager options*, and unclick the box that reads "cycle on wheel".
Yes. Thierry mentioned that method in his OP.
It wasn't clear to me if he did rather mean mouse wheel over the desktop background. That's not configured with via right click on pager (in kicker) -> options -> check "Cycle on Wheel" but in tde control center as I wrote in my previous post.
Kind regards, Stefan
On Saturday 25 August 2018 10:24:21 William Morder wrote:
On Saturday 25 August 2018 05:46:16 Stefan Krusche wrote:
Hi Thierry,
Am Samstag 25 August 2018 schrieb Thierry de Coulon:
When I accidentaly roll my mouse wheel when the pointer is over the desktop pager, it changes desktop (I suppose it's the intended behaviour).
In the pager's option there is a checkbox about changing desktop with the wheel when the pointer is over the desktop background (and it works).
Is there a setiing to block this wheel beaviour also on the page?
I'm also not sure what you mean by "page". In case you mean desktop, there is a control in:
TDE control center -> Desktop -> Multiple Desktops -> checkbox: "Mouse wheel over desktop background switches desktop"
Maybe, I'm only guessing here, that's what you're looking for.
HTH
Kind regards, Stefan
Also there is a simpler way.
Just right-click on the desktop pager itself, look for *pager options*, and unclick the box that reads "cycle on wheel".
Bill
Thank you Bill, that, here at least, was a very distracting action. Mouse wheels are about 10x too d--- fast, you never knew what workspace you were on unless you recognized what you had running on it. To pick and single out a certain workspace was difficult. So I wound up clicking on the one I wanted, and hoped the wheel, which has no clicker, didn't override me. Now I know it won't, thank you very much.
Now, if mouse makers would quit making mice that one can't touch without clicking, I'd be in hog heaven. I've had to take every mouse I've bought for the last 15 years, apart and put additional springing under the left and right buttons strong enough I have to consciously click it to make it usable. And if it has side buttons, remove them because they are smack dab under the thumb thats holding the mouse to move it.
What were they thinking, putting buttons where just holding the mouse to move it activates them? All the buttons a mouse needs is left/right with the scroll wheel serving as the third button IF you can press the s.o.b. to do a paste without moving the wheel and the curser before the paste is done so your paste ends up NOT where you intended. I'd pay another 10 bucks for a mouse that had a true middle button, taller than the left-right, so one could crook the finger to miss the wheel but still have the MMB effect. Make it small and put it behind the wheel, would make it very intuitive to use in about 30 seconds. And you'd never understand why we are stuck with the crappy mice we can get today.
There, I've said it. And I'm not a bit sorry.
You'd never willingly go back to Camels. :)
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On Sat, 25 Aug 2018, Gene Heskett wrote:
What were they thinking, putting buttons where just holding the mouse to move it activates them? All the buttons a mouse needs is left/right with the scroll wheel serving as the third button IF you can press the s.o.b. to do a paste without moving the wheel and the curser before the paste is done so your paste ends up NOT where you intended. I'd pay another 10 bucks for a mouse that had a true middle button, taller than the left-right, so one could crook the finger to miss the wheel but still have the MMB effect. Make it small and put it behind the wheel, would make it very intuitive to use in about 30 seconds. And you'd never understand why we are stuck with the crappy mice we can get today.
I would really, Really, REALLY like to disable middle-click (paste) on a program-by-program basis!
I use a Logitech Trackball. (No room on my messy desk for a mouse....)
When in kwrite, or most frustratingly, bluefish, I FAR TOO OFTEN end up with un-realized pastes throughout a document as I scroll up and down.
Ya, then, what would I do in the frequent times when I _do_ want to cut-n-paste? I guess just use the EDIT dropdown -> copy/paste....
Jonesy
On Saturday 25 August 2018 08:07:34 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Saturday 25 August 2018 10:24:21 William Morder wrote:
On Saturday 25 August 2018 05:46:16 Stefan Krusche wrote:
Hi Thierry,
Am Samstag 25 August 2018 schrieb Thierry de Coulon:
When I accidentaly roll my mouse wheel when the pointer is over the desktop pager, it changes desktop (I suppose it's the intended behaviour).
In the pager's option there is a checkbox about changing desktop with the wheel when the pointer is over the desktop background (and it works).
Is there a setiing to block this wheel beaviour also on the page?
I'm also not sure what you mean by "page". In case you mean desktop, there is a control in:
TDE control center -> Desktop -> Multiple Desktops -> checkbox: "Mouse wheel over desktop background switches desktop"
Maybe, I'm only guessing here, that's what you're looking for.
HTH
Kind regards, Stefan
Also there is a simpler way.
Just right-click on the desktop pager itself, look for *pager options*, and unclick the box that reads "cycle on wheel".
Bill
Thank you Bill, that, here at least, was a very distracting action. Mouse wheels are about 10x too d--- fast, you never knew what workspace you were on unless you recognized what you had running on it. To pick and single out a certain workspace was difficult. So I wound up clicking on the one I wanted, and hoped the wheel, which has no clicker, didn't override me. Now I know it won't, thank you very much.
Now, if mouse makers would quit making mice that one can't touch without clicking, I'd be in hog heaven. I've had to take every mouse I've bought for the last 15 years, apart and put additional springing under the left and right buttons strong enough I have to consciously click it to make it usable. And if it has side buttons, remove them because they are smack dab under the thumb thats holding the mouse to move it.
What were they thinking, putting buttons where just holding the mouse to move it activates them? All the buttons a mouse needs is left/right with the scroll wheel serving as the third button IF you can press the s.o.b. to do a paste without moving the wheel and the curser before the paste is done so your paste ends up NOT where you intended. I'd pay another 10 bucks for a mouse that had a true middle button, taller than the left-right, so one could crook the finger to miss the wheel but still have the MMB effect. Make it small and put it behind the wheel, would make it very intuitive to use in about 30 seconds. And you'd never understand why we are stuck with the crappy mice we can get today.
There, I've said it. And I'm not a bit sorry.
You'd never willingly go back to Camels. :)
You can make your desktops a bit more manageable if you change the *Window Application Settings*. Right click at the top of the window for any application, go to *Advanced*, then *Special Application Settings*. Under *Geometry* you can choose to set a desktop for each specific application; I myself like to "fix" my application according to groups (which are related, at least in my own mind); so all browsers are fixed to desktop 4, all pdfs open in desktop 9, all office documents open in desktop 1, email in desktop 3, and so on. I use all 20 available desktops, and almost always have stuff running on every one.
That way I don't have to search for a document or application, if I have stopped to do something else. And I usually have (at least) several office docs open, email is up, three or four browsers running, a whole herd of shells, a dozen examples of Konqueror with six or seven tabs each; and so on.
Also, under the same settings dialog, look for *Workarounds*, and consider setting *Focus Stealing Prevention* to high or extreme for most of your applications. Then if you are working on a document, or writing an email, you will not have your window suddenly changed just because somebody sent you an email or instant message, or because your wifi connection just got wonky; instead, you can opt for a little pop-up notification (which must be set separately within those applications).
I find it really annoying when I am forced to attend to some nagging application that actually can wait without any ill effects. The worst that can happen is that you get disconnected, and need to reconnect again; which is what would happen, anyway. I hate it when machines try to do my thinking for me.
Bill
On Saturday 25 August 2018 16.24:21 William Morder wrote:
Just right-click on the desktop pager itself, look for *pager options*, and unclick the box that reads "cycle on wheel".
Bill
Thank you, I missed this one.
Yes, this setting controls the action of the mouse wheel on teh pager itself. The other one controls the action of the wheel on the background of the desktop.
Thierry
On 08/25/2018 04:50 AM, Thierry de Coulon wrote:
Is there a setiing to block this wheel beaviour also on the page?
For the pager - no, not that I know of. That is indeed intended behavior and a general feature of many of the apps that make up the taskbar (kicker panel).
The same applies to the applications shown in the taskbar. When you scroll the mouse-wheel over that portion of the taskbar, it will cycle through the open applications. (the same applies to the 'tabs' area on konsole when multiple tabs are open.
For the pager and taskbar, one way around the issue (and a way to increase the screen real-estate) is to 'autohide' the taskbar. That way it is out of the way and there is no possibility of accidental scrolling.
(personally I enable the mouse-well over desktop background intentionally. Most people do not make use of multiple desktops just do to the additional task of switching between them. If you always leave a tiny bit of background showing on each desktop (say in the top-left or top-right corner -- you can always scroll there to switch between desktops :)
Another tip in that regard is to set global shortcuts to allow moving a window to the previous or next desktop -- since the Win key isn't used -- it is a perfect candidate. A couple of really handy key combinations to set are:
Switch to Next Desktop=Win+Right Switch to Previous Desktop=Win+Left Window to Next Desktop=Win+Alt+Right Window to Previous Desktop=Win+Alt+Left
Walk Through Desktops (Reverse)=Win+Shift+Tab
Maximize/Minimize Window Maximize=Win+Shift+Up Window Maximize Horizontal=Win+Alt+Up Window Maximize Vertical=Win+Up Window Minimize=Win+Alt+Down
Since the Win key and Alt key are generally next to one another under the left hand, that makes that combination ergonomically friendly as well...
On Tuesday 28 August 2018 00:38:00 David C. Rankin wrote:
On 08/25/2018 04:50 AM, Thierry de Coulon wrote:
Is there a setiing to block this wheel beaviour also on the page?
For the pager - no, not that I know of. That is indeed intended behavior and a general feature of many of the apps that make up the taskbar (kicker panel).
The same applies to the applications shown in the taskbar. When you scroll the mouse-wheel over that portion of the taskbar, it will cycle through the open applications. (the same applies to the 'tabs' area on konsole when multiple tabs are open.
For the pager and taskbar, one way around the issue (and a way to increase the screen real-estate) is to 'autohide' the taskbar. That way it is out of the way and there is no possibility of accidental scrolling.
(personally I enable the mouse-well over desktop background intentionally. Most people do not make use of multiple desktops just do to the additional task of switching between them. If you always leave a tiny bit of background showing on each desktop (say in the top-left or top-right corner -- you can always scroll there to switch between desktops :)
Another tip in that regard is to set global shortcuts to allow moving a window to the previous or next desktop -- since the Win key isn't used -- it is a perfect candidate. A couple of really handy key combinations to set are:
Switch to Next Desktop=Win+Right Switch to Previous Desktop=Win+Left Window to Next Desktop=Win+Alt+Right Window to Previous Desktop=Win+Alt+Left
Walk Through Desktops (Reverse)=Win+Shift+Tab
Maximize/Minimize Window Maximize=Win+Shift+Up Window Maximize Horizontal=Win+Alt+Up Window Maximize Vertical=Win+Up Window Minimize=Win+Alt+Down
Since the Win key and Alt key are generally next to one another under the left hand, that makes that combination ergonomically friendly as well...
Right on there. I am a big fan of keyboard shortcuts, and use the mouse and mouse-clicks as little as possible. I also prefer to use my num pad instead of the mouse, and keep my fingers on the keyboard. One can create keyboard shortcuts to do almost anything, except maybe to fetch a beer from the fridge.
Bill
On Tuesday 28 August 2018 09.38:00 David C. Rankin wrote:
Since the Win key and Alt key are generally next to one another under the left hand, that makes that combination ergonomically friendly as well...
That is *IF* you have these keys... I got a Unicomp keyboard without :)
Thierry
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