the gemini device (keyboard, 4G, supporting android/linux dual boot, mediatek x27 SoC) is shipping. there's a debian rom for it, but it is very early days and the unaccelerated video is a real problem. it is still my hope to give tde a spin on it, and apparently if 3D isn't used it's quick enough to be nearly usable. am wondering the extent to which tdm and tde needs 3D support. if it's none at all or very little, i might try to install it from the debiam arm repos when mine arrives monday (after rooting it and installing the stretch rom).
anybody here know?
Not too many 3D calls if any, I think except explicitely 3D applications. I have successfully used TDE on Asus A2500L with SiS graphics chip which under Linux does not offer 3D acceleration at all, only 2D. MCbx
On Sat, 05 May 2018 16:32:09 -0400 dep dep@drippingwithirony.com wrote:
the gemini device (keyboard, 4G, supporting android/linux dual boot, mediatek x27 SoC) is shipping. there's a debian rom for it, but it is very early days and the unaccelerated video is a real problem. it is still my hope to give tde a spin on it, and apparently if 3D isn't used it's quick enough to be nearly usable. am wondering the extent to which tdm and tde needs 3D support. if it's none at all or very little, i might try to install it from the debiam arm repos when mine arrives monday (after rooting it and installing the stretch rom).
anybody here know?
On May 5, 2018 4:47 PM, iadest@o2.pl iadest@o2.pl wrote:
Not too many 3D calls if any, I think except explicitely 3D applications. I have successfully used TDE on Asus A2500L with SiS graphics chip which under Linux does not offer 3D acceleration at all, only 2D.
very good to hear. the default arrangement is lxqt and kwin. in case anyone is interested, there's a wiki on the linux development here:
https://github.com/gemian/gemini-keyboard-apps/wiki/DebianTP
having last coded (poorly and not much of it) for KSE-1.x, it's a joy to watch the guys on irc who just got their gadgets and are going crazy writing stuff to make everything work. (not tde specifically, but linux and all the hardware, particularly fully-functioning video.) i think tde with a little fiddling -- large icons and a couple of keyboard shortcurs (such as to raise kicker) -- might work really well, and the idea of a linux/tde machine not much bigger than the big iphone seems really cool to me.
dep
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Hi,
TDE (and kde3) can run perfectly well even on VESA or framebuffer, so I see no reasons for it to be slow on that.
I even made TDE run on a chinese arm netbook, with a dual core arm A9 WM8880 cpu with desktop effects running
on llvmpipe (cpu renderer) completely flawlessy. The only place where you'll see some stutter is if you play video.
This device look really cool, and will probably order one sooner or later!
-Alexandre
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On May 5, 2018 4:47 PM, iadest@o2.pl iadest@o2.pl wrote:
Not too many 3D calls if any, I think except explicitely 3D applications. I have successfully used TDE on Asus A2500L with SiS graphics chip which under Linux does not offer 3D acceleration at all, only 2D.
very good to hear. the default arrangement is lxqt and kwin. in case anyone is interested, there's a wiki on the linux development here:
https://github.com/gemian/gemini-keyboard-apps/wiki/DebianTP
having last coded (poorly and not much of it) for KSE-1.x, it's a joy to watch the guys on irc who just got their gadgets and are going crazy writing stuff to make everything work. (not tde specifically, but linux and all the hardware, particularly fully-functioning video.) i think tde with a little fiddling -- large icons and a couple of keyboard shortcurs (such as to raise kicker) -- might work really well, and the idea of a linux/tde machine not much bigger than the big iphone seems really cool to me.
dep
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On Sunday 06 May 2018 00.17:52 Alexandre Couture wrote:
Hi,
(...)
I even made TDE run on a chinese arm netbook, with a dual core arm A9 WM8880 cpu with desktop effects running on llvmpipe (cpu renderer) completely flawlessy. The only place where you'll see some stutter is if you play video.
TDE running on a Pi 3 here - note *very* well but usable. I use KDRC to connect to it (it's monitoring things in a shed).
Thierry
TDE running on a Pi 3 here - note *very* well but usable. I use KDRC to connect to it (it's monitoring things in a shed).
Thierry
how you installed it on it? Can you please add instructions in the wiki. What you mean by "not very well"?
wofgdkncxojef@gmail.com wrote:
how you installed it on it? Can you please add instructions in the wiki. What you mean by "not very well"?
I tested it on Pi2, but it was too slow. I used the Pi documentation for installing debian and the standard TDE process to install TDE. Basically you need a vfat partition too boot from. I finally set up root over NFS to be able to play easily. I hope this helps
regards
On Sunday 06 May 2018 10:29:47 deloptes wrote:
wofgdkncxojef@gmail.com wrote:
how you installed it on it? Can you please add instructions in the wiki. What you mean by "not very well"?
I tested it on Pi2, but it was too slow. I used the Pi documentation for installing debian and the standard TDE process to install TDE. Basically you need a vfat partition too boot from. I finally set up root over NFS to be able to play easily. I hope this helps
regards
they are TDE repos for ARM? where?
Am Sonntag, 6. Mai 2018 schrieb wofgdkncxojef@gmail.com:
On Sunday 06 May 2018 10:29:47 deloptes wrote:
wofgdkncxojef@gmail.com wrote:
how you installed it on it? Can you please add instructions in the wiki. What you mean by "not very well"?
I tested it on Pi2, but it was too slow. I used the Pi documentation for installing debian and the standard TDE process to install TDE. Basically you need a vfat partition too boot from. I finally set up root over NFS to be able to play easily. I hope this helps
regards
they are TDE repos for ARM? where?
at the usual places :-)
deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity-sb stretch deps-r14 extra-r14 main-r14 deb-src http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity-sb stretch deps-r14 extra-r14 main-r14
nik
wofgdkncxojef@gmail.com wrote:
they are TDE repos for ARM? where?
http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb/dists/stretch/main-r14/
deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb stretch deps-r14 main-r14 deb-src http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb stretch deps-r14 main-r14
if you want to use stretch.
The team was so nice to offer support for following architectures
[DIR] binary-amd64/ 11-Jun-2015 20:22 - [DIR] binary-arm64/ 16-Jun-2017 13:12 - [DIR] binary-armel/ 16-Jun-2017 13:12 - [DIR] binary-armhf/ 16-Jun-2017 13:12 - [DIR] binary-i386/ 11-Jun-2015 20:22 - [DIR] binary-mips/ 16-Jun-2017 13:12 - [DIR] binary-ppc64el/ 16-Jun-2017 13:12 -
regards
On Sunday 06 May 2018 10.12:24 wofgdkncxojef@gmail.com wrote:
how you installed it on it? Can you please add instructions in the wiki. What you mean by "not very well"?
Actually *I* didn't exactly do it. I installed Q4OS 1.6 which exists as an image for ARM and already includes TDE.
Thierry
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