Hi !
I'm running trinity desktop on Debian Testing linux. Sometimes all the icons from desktop disappear and (at the same time!) the desktop lock button (blue lock symbol in the kicker panel) stops to work.
What service/program to I have to restart in order to fix it without logging out and in again?
Cheers
Ilya Dogolazky
On Tuesday 07 of October 2014 11:34:25 Ilya Dogolazky wrote:
Hi !
I'm running trinity desktop on Debian Testing linux. Sometimes all the icons from desktop disappear and (at the same time!) the desktop lock button (blue lock symbol in the kicker panel) stops to work.
What service/program to I have to restart in order to fix it without logging out and in again?
Cheers
Ilya Dogolazky
Disappearing icons from the desktop shows to crash KDesktop. Starting kdesktop should correct the problem.
At this situation please take a look into ~/.xsession-error, if there is listed a backtrace about KDesktop crash? It could help to detect and fix the problem.
On 10/07/2014 06:47 PM, Slávek Banko wrote:
On Tuesday 07 of October 2014 11:34:25 Ilya Dogolazky wrote:
Hi !
I'm running trinity desktop on Debian Testing linux. Sometimes all the icons from desktop disappear and (at the same time!) the desktop lock button (blue lock symbol in the kicker panel) stops to work.
What service/program to I have to restart in order to fix it without logging out and in again?
Cheers
Ilya Dogolazky
Disappearing icons from the desktop shows to crash KDesktop. Starting kdesktop should correct the problem.
At this situation please take a look into ~/.xsession-error, if there is listed a backtrace about KDesktop crash? It could help to detect and fix the problem.
For info, which version of TDE are you using? Cheers Michele
On 10/07/2014 10:13 PM, Ilya Dogolazky wrote:
For info, which version of TDE are you using?
From daily build repo, for example kdesktop:
kdesktop-trinity 4:14.0.0-r1248-0debian8.0.0+pr60 amd64
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When the problem happens, do you have a DrKonqui crash window opening on your system? If so, could you provide the crash log? Thanks Michele
2014-10-07 16:34 GMT+03:00 Michele Calgaro michele.calgaro@yahoo.it:
When the problem happens, do you have a DrKonqui crash window opening on your system? If so, could you provide the crash log?
Hi! I'm afraid there was no such window, but I'll pay more attention next time. Where can I see the log if no crash window appears?
On Tuesday 07 of October 2014 18:32:25 Ilya Dogolazky wrote:
2014-10-07 16:34 GMT+03:00 Michele Calgaro michele.calgaro@yahoo.it:
When the problem happens, do you have a DrKonqui crash window opening on your system? If so, could you provide the crash log?
Hi! I'm afraid there was no such window, but I'll pay more attention next time. Where can I see the log if no crash window appears?
As far as I know, KDesktop crashes silently - without DrKonqui. However, the backtrace should be listed in file ~/.xsession-errors, as I mentioned in the previous mail.
On Tuesday 07 October 2014, Ilya Dogolazky wrote:
2014-10-07 16:34 GMT+03:00 Michele Calgaro michele.calgaro@yahoo.it:
When the problem happens, do you have a DrKonqui crash window opening on your system? If so, could you provide the crash log?
Hi! I'm afraid there was no such window, but I'll pay more attention next time. Where can I see the log if no crash window appears?
I have exactly the same problems since months during several versions of TDE. I'm now on R14.0.0 [Development]. DrKonqui is definitely not there after disapearence of icons. I will look into my .xsession-error file next time.
here is my sources list: deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-nightly-builds/ub... raring main universe multiverse restricted
BTW: Since some time I get: --------- snip ------------------- $ sudo apt-get update
Get:3 http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net raring Release [22.1 kB] Err http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net raring Release --------- snip -------------------
it worked formerly. Any idea what has changed?
Gerhard
On Tuesday 07 of October 2014 18:53:53 Gerhard Zintel wrote:
On Tuesday 07 October 2014, Ilya Dogolazky wrote:
2014-10-07 16:34 GMT+03:00 Michele Calgaro michele.calgaro@yahoo.it:
When the problem happens, do you have a DrKonqui crash window opening on your system? If so, could you provide the crash log?
Hi! I'm afraid there was no such window, but I'll pay more attention next time. Where can I see the log if no crash window appears?
I have exactly the same problems since months during several versions of TDE. I'm now on R14.0.0 [Development]. DrKonqui is definitely not there after disapearence of icons. I will look into my .xsession-error file next time.
here is my sources list: deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-nightly-builds/u buntu raring main universe multiverse restricted
BTW: Since some time I get: --------- snip ------------------- $ sudo apt-get update
Get:3 http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net raring Release [22.1 kB] Err http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net raring Release --------- snip -------------------
it worked formerly. Any idea what has changed?
Gerhard
I'm afraid-nightly builds are currently inconsistent. Recently, a large number of commits, and so many packages waiting to rebuild. If you wish you can use alternative apt source - preliminary-stable-builds:
deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb raring deps-r14 main-r14
sudo apt-key adv --keyserver pks.gpg.cz --recv-keys A04BE668
Re: [trinity-users] Desktop Icons + Lock button = what to restart? From: Gerhard Zintel gerhard.zintel@web.de To: trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Date: Tue Oct 7 20:11:05 2014 Sender's Current Time: 23:24 Evening On Tuesday 07 October 2014, Slávek Banko wrote:
I'm afraid-nightly builds are currently inconsistent. Recently, a large number of commits, and so many packages waiting to rebuild. If you wish you can use alternative apt source - preliminary-stable-builds:
deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb raring deps-r14 main-r14
sudo apt-key adv --keyserver pks.gpg.cz --recv-keys A04BE668
Thanks a lot Slávek, you are always of help Gerhard
On Tuesday 07 October 2014, Slávek Banko wrote:
On Tuesday 07 of October 2014 11:34:25 Ilya Dogolazky wrote:
Hi !
I'm running trinity desktop on Debian Testing linux. Sometimes all the icons from desktop disappear and (at the same time!) the desktop lock button (blue lock symbol in the kicker panel) stops to work.
What service/program to I have to restart in order to fix it without logging out and in again?
Cheers
Ilya Dogolazky
Disappearing icons from the desktop shows to crash KDesktop. Starting kdesktop should correct the problem.
At this situation please take a look into ~/.xsession-error, if there is listed a backtrace about KDesktop crash? It could help to detect and fix the problem.
Update: Today I faced the problem again. Unfortunately I did not look into the .xsession-errors file before I started to relaunch kdesktop. Nevertheless it did not crash. First action: I started kdesktop from Konsole. It told me that kdesktop is already running but didn't come back to the prompt. Icons were not recreated. I had to Ctrl-C for the promt. "ps ax" showed me an old version of kdesktop and a second new one with <defunct> message. Killing the defunct one was not possible. I killed the original kdesktop program (Desktop went black) and relaunched it and - voila - the icons reapeared on the desktop. Also the defunct process of kdesktop was gone.
I do not find anything special in the xsession errors file. I try to investigate more accurate next time.
Gerhard
On Friday 10 October 2014, Gerhard Zintel wrote:
On Tuesday 07 October 2014, Slávek Banko wrote:
On Tuesday 07 of October 2014 11:34:25 Ilya Dogolazky wrote:
Hi !
I'm running trinity desktop on Debian Testing linux. Sometimes all the icons from desktop disappear and (at the same time!) the desktop lock button (blue lock symbol in the kicker panel) stops to work.
What service/program to I have to restart in order to fix it without logging out and in again?
Cheers
Ilya Dogolazky
Disappearing icons from the desktop shows to crash KDesktop. Starting kdesktop should correct the problem.
At this situation please take a look into ~/.xsession-error, if there is listed a backtrace about KDesktop crash? It could help to detect and fix the problem.
Update: Today I faced the problem again. Unfortunately I did not look into the .xsession-errors file before I started to relaunch kdesktop. Nevertheless it did not crash. First action: I started kdesktop from Konsole. It told me that kdesktop is already running but didn't come back to the prompt. Icons were not recreated. I had to Ctrl-C for the promt. "ps ax" showed me an old version of kdesktop and a second new one with <defunct> message. Killing the defunct one was not possible. I killed the original kdesktop program (Desktop went black) and relaunched it and - voila - the icons reapeared on the desktop. Also the defunct process of kdesktop was gone.
I do not find anything special in the xsession errors file. I try to investigate more accurate next time.
today it happened again. Nothing special in .xsession-errors: $ tail -n .xsession-errors ------------- snip ------------------ . . . konqueror: WARNING: failed to obtain ELF icon: ELF resource section not found TQClipboard: Unknown SelectionClear event received. . . . [kdesktop_lock] Warning: unable to create control socket '/tmp/tdesocket-global/ kdesktoplockcontrol-0'. Interactive logon modules may not function properly. [twin] X_SetInputFocus(0x1c00096): BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) . . . X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 Major opcode: 19 Minor opcode: 0 Resource id: 0x1c00096 TQClipboard: Unknown SelectionClear event received. [twin] X_SetInputFocus(0x3a6ebaa): BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) kmail: WARNING: FolderStorage::getMsg was asked for an invalid index. idx =0 count()=0 ------------- snip ------------------ All errors are displayed more often before without the above described desktop problem (no icons, no middle and right mouse button menu). Process kdesktop is running but there is additionally a "[kdesktop_lock] <defunct>" process. Might this be the culprit? I do not lock my desktop normally. I can not kill the <defunct> process but killing kdesktop process and relaunching it restores all to normal.
now I have a running 21927 pts/4 S 0:00 kdesktop 21928 pts/4 S 0:00 /opt/trinity/bin/kdesktop_lock --internal 21927
process again.
Gerhard
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On Friday 10 October 2014, Gerhard Zintel wrote:
On Tuesday 07 October 2014, Slávek Banko wrote:
On Tuesday 07 of October 2014 11:34:25 Ilya Dogolazky wrote:
Hi !
I'm running trinity desktop on Debian Testing linux. Sometimes all the icons from desktop disappear and (at the same
time!)
the desktop lock button (blue lock symbol in the kicker panel) stops to work.
What service/program to I have to restart in order to fix it without logging out and in again?
Cheers
Ilya Dogolazky
Disappearing icons from the desktop shows to crash KDesktop. Starting
kdesktop
should correct the problem.
At this situation please take a look into ~/.xsession-error, if there
is
listed a backtrace about KDesktop crash? It could help to detect and
fix the
problem.
Update: Today I faced the problem again. Unfortunately I did not look into the .xsession-errors file before I started to relaunch kdesktop. Nevertheless it did not crash. First action: I started kdesktop from Konsole. It told me that kdesktop is already running but didn't come back to the prompt. Icons were not recreated. I had to Ctrl-C for the promt. "ps ax" showed me an old version of kdesktop and a second new one with <defunct> message. Killing the defunct one was not possible. I killed the original kdesktop program (Desktop went black) and relaunched it and - voila - the icons reapeared on the desktop. Also the defunct process of kdesktop was gone.
I do not find anything special in the xsession errors file. I try to investigate more accurate next time.
today it happened again. Nothing special in .xsession-errors: $ tail -n .xsession-errors ------------- snip ------------------ . . . konqueror: WARNING: failed to obtain ELF icon: ELF resource section not found TQClipboard: Unknown SelectionClear event received. . . . [kdesktop_lock] Warning: unable to create control socket '/tmp/tdesocket-global/ kdesktoplockcontrol-0'. Interactive logon modules may not function properly. [twin] X_SetInputFocus(0x1c00096): BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) . . . X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 Major opcode: 19 Minor opcode: 0 Resource id: 0x1c00096 TQClipboard: Unknown SelectionClear event received. [twin] X_SetInputFocus(0x3a6ebaa): BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) kmail: WARNING: FolderStorage::getMsg was asked for an invalid index. idx =0 count()=0 ------------- snip ------------------ All errors are displayed more often before without the above described desktop problem (no icons, no middle and right mouse button menu). Process kdesktop is running but there is additionally a "[kdesktop_lock] <defunct>" process. Might this be the culprit? I do not lock my desktop normally. I can not kill the <defunct> process but killing kdesktop process and relaunching it restores all to normal.
now I have a running 21927 pts/4 S 0:00 kdesktop 21928 pts/4 S 0:00 /opt/trinity/bin/kdesktop_lock --internal 21927
process again.
Gerhard
Sounds almost like kdesktop is deadlocked. Next time it happens can you break into kdesktop with gdb (gdb --pid `pidof kdesktop`), execute "thread apply all bt", and post the output?
Thanks!
Tim
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On Friday 10 October 2014, Gerhard Zintel wrote:
On Tuesday 07 October 2014, Slávek Banko wrote:
On Tuesday 07 of October 2014 11:34:25 Ilya Dogolazky wrote:
Hi !
I'm running trinity desktop on Debian Testing linux. Sometimes all the icons from desktop disappear and (at the same
time!)
the desktop lock button (blue lock symbol in the kicker panel)
stops
to work.
What service/program to I have to restart in order to fix it
without
logging out and in again?
Cheers
Ilya Dogolazky
Disappearing icons from the desktop shows to crash KDesktop. Starting
kdesktop
should correct the problem.
At this situation please take a look into ~/.xsession-error, if there
is
listed a backtrace about KDesktop crash? It could help to detect and
fix the
problem.
Update: Today I faced the problem again. Unfortunately I did not look into the .xsession-errors file before I started to relaunch kdesktop. Nevertheless it did not crash. First action: I started kdesktop from Konsole. It told me that kdesktop is already running but didn't come back to the prompt. Icons were not recreated. I had to Ctrl-C for the promt. "ps ax" showed me an old version of kdesktop and a second new one with <defunct> message. Killing the defunct one was not possible. I killed the original kdesktop program (Desktop went black) and relaunched it and - voila - the icons reapeared on the desktop. Also the defunct process of kdesktop was gone.
I do not find anything special in the xsession errors file. I try to investigate more accurate next time.
today it happened again. Nothing special in .xsession-errors: $ tail -n .xsession-errors ------------- snip ------------------ . . . konqueror: WARNING: failed to obtain ELF icon: ELF resource section not found TQClipboard: Unknown SelectionClear event received. . . . [kdesktop_lock] Warning: unable to create control socket '/tmp/tdesocket-global/ kdesktoplockcontrol-0'. Interactive logon modules may not function properly. [twin] X_SetInputFocus(0x1c00096): BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) . . . X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 Major opcode: 19 Minor opcode: 0 Resource id: 0x1c00096 TQClipboard: Unknown SelectionClear event received. [twin] X_SetInputFocus(0x3a6ebaa): BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) kmail: WARNING: FolderStorage::getMsg was asked for an invalid index. idx =0 count()=0 ------------- snip ------------------ All errors are displayed more often before without the above described desktop problem (no icons, no middle and right mouse button menu). Process kdesktop is running but there is additionally a "[kdesktop_lock] <defunct>" process. Might this be the culprit? I do not lock my desktop normally. I can not kill the <defunct> process but killing kdesktop process and relaunching it restores all to normal.
now I have a running 21927 pts/4 S 0:00 kdesktop 21928 pts/4 S 0:00 /opt/trinity/bin/kdesktop_lock --internal 21927
process again.
Gerhard
Sounds almost like kdesktop is deadlocked. Next time it happens can you break into kdesktop with gdb (gdb --pid `pidof kdesktop`), execute "thread apply all bt", and post the output?
Thanks!
Tim
Forgot to mention that this is only useful if you have the tdebase debugging symbols installed before launching gdb...on Debian/Ubuntu from the PPAs you can install tdebase-trinity-dbg.
Tim
On Monday 27 October 2014, Timothy Pearson wrote:
Sounds almost like kdesktop is deadlocked. Next time it happens can you break into kdesktop with gdb (gdb --pid `pidof kdesktop`), execute "thread apply all bt", and post the output?
Thanks!
Tim
Forgot to mention that this is only useful if you have the tdebase debugging symbols installed before launching gdb...on Debian/Ubuntu from the PPAs you can install tdebase-trinity-dbg.
Tim
sure, I'll do my very best ;-)
On Monday 27 October 2014, Timothy Pearson wrote:
------------- snip ------------------ konqueror: WARNING: failed to obtain ELF icon: ELF resource section not found TQClipboard: Unknown SelectionClear event received. . . . [kdesktop_lock] Warning: unable to create control socket '/tmp/tdesocket-global/ kdesktoplockcontrol-0'. Interactive logon modules may not function properly. [twin] X_SetInputFocus(0x1c00096): BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) . . . X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 Major opcode: 19 Minor opcode: 0 Resource id: 0x1c00096 TQClipboard: Unknown SelectionClear event received. [twin] X_SetInputFocus(0x3a6ebaa): BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) kmail: WARNING: FolderStorage::getMsg was asked for an invalid index. idx =0 count()=0 ------------- snip ------------------ All errors are displayed more often before without the above described desktop problem (no icons, no middle and right mouse button menu). Process kdesktop is running but there is additionally a "[kdesktop_lock] <defunct>" process. Might this be the culprit? I do not lock my desktop normally. I can not kill the <defunct> process but killing kdesktop process and relaunching it restores all to normal.
now I have a running 21927 pts/4 S 0:00 kdesktop 21928 pts/4 S 0:00 /opt/trinity/bin/kdesktop_lock --internal 21927
process again.
Gerhard
Sounds almost like kdesktop is deadlocked. Next time it happens can you break into kdesktop with gdb (gdb --pid `pidof kdesktop`), execute "thread apply all bt", and post the output?
Thanks!
Tim
Today it happened again - and yes, I installed tdebase-trinity-dbg.
Output is not much. Here you are: (gdb) thread apply all bt
Thread 1 (Thread 0xb588a980 (LWP 2802)): #0 0xb7789424 in __kernel_vsyscall () #1 0xb75f3ce1 in ?? () from /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 #2 0xb757031b in ?? () from /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 Backtrace stopped: previous frame identical to this frame (corrupt stack?)
Don't know if this helps for anything. I try again next time. Gerhard
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