On 6/7/22 14:00, Marvin Jones via tde-users wrote: Jonesy You may have hit on a good idea. Would it be possible for trinity to create it's own email service for it's users? Kate

On Tue, 7 Jun 2022, Mavridis Philippe wrote: If you have your own domain name, let me suggest https://www.knthost.com/ I've been with these folks for nearly 2 decades now. Fully DKIM and SPF compliant. They are a terror on spam. Damn little gets to my INBOX. Highly recommended. Jonesy -- Marvin L Jones | Marvin | W3DHJ | linux Pueblo, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | FreeBSD __ 38.238N 104.547W | jonz.net | DM78rf | SK

On Tuesday 07 June 2022 11:33:21 Kate @ Borg Labs wrote: We just had a pretty long and involved discussion of both these issues, although in slightly different form. 1. Regarding TDE starting its own email service for users: It would be too much for developers and users to take on. However, I did propose a rather vague idea about starting an email cooperative (sort of like a food coop, or other workers' cooperative). Users are also owners, and would also have to contribute not just to operating costs, but also would take on some of the work. It seems to me that something like that could work. If some people who just happen to be members of the Trinity mailing list also happen to want to start their own email cooperative, that would not be directly connected with TDE. But that is as far as I got in imagining it, as there would have to be some kind of structure, to make sure everything works, etc., etc. And we would have to own a server, or have use of a server, and there would have to be some people who can manage the technical, business and legal issues. And that's where my dream falls apart, and I wake up. 2. For that other problem: See threads that follow from the heading of "how to use Kmail with the new Google monster?" started on 25 May 2022 by the present author, myself. What you want is here, I believe, if you can get it to work for you: https://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/answers/1672544-using-gmail This would seem to have the best resolution for how to get Gmail to work with Kmail. (And I would be personally interested in finding an actual working solution for this issue.) For myself, though, the solution seems to be to get another email service that does not require a telephone number to register. (A web search with ddg turned up a whole slew of them, which I have yet to sort through.) My own Gmail accounts are now totally inaccessible to myself, as the phone numbers and alternate emails associated with those accounts are no longer active, and I have had these accounts for 10+ years. Google has made the world more secure by preventing me from getting into my account at all. Good luck! If anybody anywhere manages to get Gmail working with Kmail, I want to hear it. If there is a way to rescue a Gmail account outside those methods. Gmail tells me that they cannot verify that I am myself, even though I use the correct user name and a perversely difficult password. Bill