On Tuesday 09 February 2016 11:05:30 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: Thats probably better than my idea was, which was to add a bash script to ~/.trinity/Autostart, named sound that did the same thing. But since I already have the xrdb line in there, I terminated it with a && so this would be exec'd after that bit of sed magic you supplied. Since theres quite a bit of stuff being restored when tdm restarts, which takes a good 30+ seconds to do, I wish I could find where to get it to restart each of the numerous term's I use on its correct workspace screen. They always restore with the correct number of tabs, but they all pile up on the same screen & have to be moved to the screen I am used to using for that particular workflow. I think the only exception to that is probably trinity-kcalc, which always seems to be on the workspace #3 it was running on prior to the restart. So someplace, there is that info. Also, the tde version of kcalc does this, the kde version does not restart. Yeah, I know, beggars and horses... Thanks Nik. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

On Tuesday 09 February 2016 13:54:21 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: [...] And where is that option? I don't recall seeing it when I walked thru it earler today. Are my cataracts getting that bad? :( Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

On Tuesday 09 February 2016 14:36:21 Nick Leverton wrote: Found it, was set for restore. Which is good but doesn't remember the workspace the restored stuff was running on. I note that most of the time, the restored term prompts do show the directory it was sitting in when I restarted it, causing that term & shell to be killed. So its remembering that, but not the workspace. Is that a bug? Or just hasn't been coded to do yet? Thanks Nick. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

On Tuesday 09 February 2016 18:34:28 Lisi Reisz wrote: No I haven't Lisi. Does it not store a new list of stuff each time as it shuts down when that is checked? IDK. Thanks Lisi. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

On Wednesday 10 February 2016 02:54:50 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: AKA turn it off, nuke those files in the session directory, restart and reconfigure, turn it back on and restart again. looking at those files, I can't see a thing that looks like a workspace # specifier. And they all carry a time stamp from the last restart, and a long hashed from the *nix epoche time" extension to the name. Is there documentation on this someplace the "unwashed" can read it? And yet, kcalc alone is the only one that always re-opens on the same workspace it was on so I think its possible. I may play with it once I have an eye open simultaneously again. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

Am Mittwoch, 10. Februar 2016 schrieb Lisi Reisz: I'm couriouse: Gene, could you solve the problem? Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA.

On Tuesday 16 February 2016 16:53:24 Gene Heskett wrote: Dr Nik; I had a huge update tonight, 165 packages. So I set it to start with an empty config, and alternately rebooted and edited grub.cfg to get it to use the latest kernel automatically since it has been built with enough stuff I can run the uspace sim version of lcnc with it. That took 4 reboots to get it right, each one a blank screen except for the icons & tde menu's. Getting that right, I reset it to use a saved config, and sure as God made little green apples, on the next reboot nothing had changed, it was all back, and all piled up on workspace 2, with the 4 tab terminal that lives on workspace 2 in my usual workflow, sitting on top of everything else. So it appears that accomplished zero effect other than kmail wasn't restarted, everything else was after 4 reboots to an empty config, including kcalc on its correct workspace 3.. Is the a subdir in ~/.trinity or ~/.kde ( those file dates were all old) that I can nuke, to make it resave the config as it exists at logout/reboot? IOW, What did I do wrong? Should I have been just logging out as opposed to a hot reboot? And how does one go about "saving" the manually saved session that this menu gives you the option of using. I haven't run across a menu entry to do that. That seems like it should be the real answer, saving the currently running stuff, including the workspace # its running on. But what do I know? In the FWIW category, big story about a Glibc vulnerability, released by both Red Hat and Google, a dns exploit that gives the attacker root with one query. Supposedly a year old, but I don't recall seeing anything but an update to the docs for glibc in recent history. Does anyone know if the wheezy glibc has actually been quietly patched for that exploit or not in the last year? Thanks. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

On Wednesday 17 February 2016 03:43:56 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: I did an ls -lR in ~./.trinity, and saw that I own everything, and that several files were updated last night, but nothing that looks like a usual suspect. Only 4 files in the session directory So next time I am in need of a reboot, I'll do that. Thanks Nik. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

On Thursday 18 February 2016 02:50:13 Nick Leverton wrote: Nope, Nick, selection of the "use manually saved session", does not generate a "save session" option to select. Thats why I asked where it was in the first place. I have now checked that option and will note if that choice is presented when I next logout. Here, the session manager's help screen shows: Jost Schenck Revision 3.2 (2003-10-13) Which sure seems to indicate a rather profound lack of interest in fixing such "problems" if it hasn't been updated in 13 years... WTH? Does that not predate the tde fork by a decade at least? Somebody elses turn. :) Thanks Nick. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

On Wednesday 10 February 2016 18:18:33 Nick Leverton wrote: Well, unless froggy's magic twanger has been plucked, most of the r14.0.0.3 code base is still kde3.5. So unless someone has addressed it since the fork, that particular speed bump is probably still there. As for workspace 3 that I referred to, I have 10 such 'screens', and I usually have at least 4 of them with open terminals with multiple tabs on them. On workspace1 for instance, a 5 tab terminal runs, with tab 0 being used for a root copy of htop, with which I can find and destroy a runaway process. Tab 1 has a root tail -fn300 on /var/log/messages. Tab 2 is running in my home dir, and has a tail -fn50 log/fetchmail.log so I can sorta keep track of my network connection etc. Tab 3 ATM, has a tail -fn50 log/procmail.log but as long as procmail behaves itself, that can be shut down. I played with some of the procmail recipe's last evening, so I've been tracking how that is working. Next workspace has a 4 tab terminal running on it, with ssh -Y sessions live to each of my CNC machines scattered about the Ranchette. Theres 2 more workspaces with terminals running on them, for whatever. I normally run iceweasel on workspace 9, and kmail on workspace 10. The whatever category might be gaf, or pcb, or even qucs depending on what I'm attempting to do ATM. Boring isn't it. :( Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

On Friday 12 February 2016 13:24:25 Nick Leverton wrote: That was how I read you, Nick. :-) Some years ago when I was helping my granddaughter do her homework, she asked me how to do something. I didn't actually know. But I looked at it, worked out how I would achieve what she wanted, and showed her. She completed her homework. The next day, I looked up how to do whatever it was. There was a MUCH better way of doing it - both quicker and easier than the (admittedly successful) bodge I had showed her. So I said to her: "Look , there is this much better way of doing it." She refused to change. "No, this is how I do it." And you have been doing it your way for years!! Lisi