11 Oct
2020
11 Oct
'20
7:25 p.m.
For your amusement (and to test whether I can actually *post* to the new mailing
lists, since I got the confirm and welcome mails, but other messages have only
been coming from the old list), I offer the following glimpses of what the tweaked
website will look like on smaller devices:
Really narrow screens (such as phones) will see this:
https://i.postimg.cc/m2tsMdWb/tdepage-phone.png
Note the vertical menu at the bottom, and the header has been resized so that
the word "Development" doesn't overflow off the screen to the right.
Screens between 520px and 800px wide (of which I don't expect to find
many—some tablets held in portrait mode, maybe) will get this instead:
https://i.postimg.cc/y6fKkM5Q/tdepage-medium.png
Menu horizontal at the bottom, header larger but still not full-sized.
At 800px, it reverts to the format we all know and . . . love? In any case,
at 800px, the sidebar takes up a little more than 20% of the screen, which
should be acceptable to most.
The resizing trick doesn't work in Konqueror, unfortunately, since it doesn't
support CSS @media queries at the necessary level, but I am going to be
very surprised if anyone manages to get Konqueror onto a phone. The page
does resize itself correctly on the three modern browsers I've tested.
E. Liddell
12 Oct
12 Oct
1:31 a.m.
On Sunday 11 of October 2020 21:25:24 E. Liddell wrote:
For your amusement (and to test whether I can actually
*post* to the new
mailing lists, since I got the confirm and welcome mails, but other
messages have only been coming from the old list), I offer the following
glimpses of what the tweaked website will look like on smaller devices:
Really narrow screens (such as phones) will see this:
https://i.postimg.cc/m2tsMdWb/tdepage-phone.png
Note the vertical menu at the bottom, and the header has been resized so
that the word "Development" doesn't overflow off the screen to the
right.
Screens between 520px and 800px wide (of which I don't expect to find
many—some tablets held in portrait mode, maybe) will get this instead:
https://i.postimg.cc/y6fKkM5Q/tdepage-medium.png
Menu horizontal at the bottom, header larger but still not full-sized.
At 800px, it reverts to the format we all know and . . . love? In any
case, at 800px, the sidebar takes up a little more than 20% of the
screen, which should be acceptable to most.
The resizing trick doesn't work in Konqueror, unfortunately, since it
doesn't support CSS @media queries at the necessary level, but I am
going to be very surprised if anyone manages to get Konqueror onto a
phone. The page does resize itself correctly on the three modern
browsers I've tested.
E. Liddell
____________________________________________________
That looks great!
I originally had no idea if there would be a sense of a vertical menu at
the bottom, but now I see that it makes a very good sense. I really like
it - all these variants. It's not a problem that the resizing trick
doesn't work in Konqueror.
Thank you for a great job!
Note: In the log on the mail server I see that a message from the new
mailing list has been sent to you, so I hope it works all right.
Cheers
--
Slávek
7:16 p.m.
On Mon, 12 Oct 2020 03:31:40 +0200
Slávek Banko via tde-users <ml-migration-agent(a)trinitydesktop.org> wrote:
Now I get to do the difficult part: rearranging the PHP to generate the
menu at the end rather than the beginning of each page, which was
regrettably necessary to pull this off.
On Sunday 11 of October 2020 21:25:24 E. Liddell
wrote:
> For your amusement (and to test whether I can actually *post* to the new
> mailing lists, since I got the confirm and welcome mails, but other
> messages have only been coming from the old list), I offer the following
> glimpses of what the tweaked website will look like on smaller devices:
[snip]
____________________________________________________
That looks great!
I originally had no idea if there would be a sense of a vertical menu at
the bottom, but now I see that it makes a very good sense. I really like
it - all these variants. It's not a problem that the resizing trick
doesn't work in Konqueror.
Thank you for a great job! Note: In the log on the mail server I see that a
message from the new
mailing list has been sent to you, so I hope it works all right.
I'm still receiving listmail only from lists.pearsoncomputing.net and
not from trinitydesktop.org . It's possible that fastmail is censoring it
because I couldn't unsubscribe from the old list (no unsubscribe
confirmation email was ever sent to me), so my mailbox would be getting
two copies of each message from different addresses.
E. Liddell
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9:36 p.m.
On Monday 12 of October 2020 21:16:49 E. Liddell via tde-users wrote:
Do you have information from the log? For example, for a recent message I
see delivery:
Oct 12 19:24:25 mail sm-mta[662]: 09CJIAYI032766: to=<ejlddll(a)warpmail.net>et>,
delay=00:03:41, xdelay=00:00:12,
mailer=esmtp, pri=534513, relay=in1-smtp.messagingengine.com. [66.111.4.73], dsn=2.0.0,
stat=Sent (Queued as
35BFBE5E2BD)
Can you verify what the next handling of the message with ID 35BFBE5E2BD
was on the server on your side?
By the way, are you also subscribed in the announcements list? It is not
synchronized with the old announcements list, so there is no double
delivery.
On Mon, 12 Oct 2020 03:31:40 +0200
Slávek Banko via tde-users <ml-migration-agent(a)trinitydesktop.org> wrote:
Now I get to do the difficult part: rearranging the PHP to generate the
menu at the end rather than the beginning of each page, which was
regrettably necessary to pull this off.
I see. Would it be a solution to modify the function so that doHeader()
stores the information necessary for the menu in a global variable, and a
later call to doFooter() would generate a menu?
On Sunday 11 of October 2020 21:25:24 E. Liddell
wrote:
> For your amusement (and to test whether I can actually *post* to the
> new mailing lists, since I got the confirm and welcome mails, but
> other messages have only been coming from the old list), I offer the
> following glimpses of what the tweaked website will look like on
> smaller devices:
[snip]
____________________________________________________
That looks great!
I originally had no idea if there would be a sense of a vertical menu
at the bottom, but now I see that it makes a very good sense. I really
like it - all these variants. It's not a problem that the resizing
trick doesn't work in Konqueror.
Thank you for a great job! Note: In the
log on the mail server I see that a message from the new
mailing list has been sent to you, so I hope it works all right.
I'm still receiving listmail only from lists.pearsoncomputing.net and
not from trinitydesktop.org . It's possible that fastmail is censoring
it because I couldn't unsubscribe from the old list (no unsubscribe
confirmation email was ever sent to me), so my mailbox would be getting
two copies of each message from different addresses.
E. Liddell
Cheers
--
Slávek
1 Dec
1 Dec
7:50 p.m.
Dne Sunday 11 of October 2020 21:25:24 E. Liddell napsal(a):
For your amusement (and to test whether I can actually
*post* to the new
mailing lists, since I got the confirm and welcome mails, but other
messages have only been coming from the old list), I offer the following
glimpses of what the tweaked website will look like on smaller devices:
Really narrow screens (such as phones) will see this:
https://i.postimg.cc/m2tsMdWb/tdepage-phone.png
Note the vertical menu at the bottom, and the header has been resized so
that the word "Development" doesn't overflow off the screen to the
right.
Screens between 520px and 800px wide (of which I don't expect to find
many—some tablets held in portrait mode, maybe) will get this instead:
https://i.postimg.cc/y6fKkM5Q/tdepage-medium.png
Menu horizontal at the bottom, header larger but still not full-sized.
At 800px, it reverts to the format we all know and . . . love? In any
case, at 800px, the sidebar takes up a little more than 20% of the
screen, which should be acceptable to most.
The resizing trick doesn't work in Konqueror, unfortunately, since it
doesn't support CSS @media queries at the necessary level, but I am
going to be very surprised if anyone manages to get Konqueror onto a
phone. The page does resize itself correctly on the three modern
browsers I've tested.
E. Liddell
____________________________________________________
Please, is there any progress? Can we help? Do you want to add permissions
so you can push it into git? Do you want to allow the creation of your
personal git repositories in TGW?
Cheers
--
Slávek
8:20 p.m.
On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 20:50:55 +0100
Slávek Banko via tde-users <users(a)trinitydesktop.org> wrote:
Dne Sunday 11 of October 2020 21:25:24 E. Liddell
napsal(a):
Sorry, I got sidetracked with Gentoo packaging stuff and unrelated personal
projects. I'll try to perform the last required tweak tonight.
E. Liddell
For your amusement (and to test whether I can
actually *post* to the new
mailing lists, since I got the confirm and welcome mails, but other
messages have only been coming from the old list), I offer the following
glimpses of what the tweaked website will look like on smaller devices:
Really narrow screens (such as phones) will see this:
https://i.postimg.cc/m2tsMdWb/tdepage-phone.png
Note the vertical menu at the bottom, and the header has been resized so
that the word "Development" doesn't overflow off the screen to the
right.
Screens between 520px and 800px wide (of which I don't expect to find
many—some tablets held in portrait mode, maybe) will get this instead:
https://i.postimg.cc/y6fKkM5Q/tdepage-medium.png
Menu horizontal at the bottom, header larger but still not full-sized.
At 800px, it reverts to the format we all know and . . . love? In any
case, at 800px, the sidebar takes up a little more than 20% of the
screen, which should be acceptable to most.
The resizing trick doesn't work in Konqueror, unfortunately, since it
doesn't support CSS @media queries at the necessary level, but I am
going to be very surprised if anyone manages to get Konqueror onto a
phone. The page does resize itself correctly on the three modern
browsers I've tested.
E. Liddell
____________________________________________________
Please, is there any progress? Can we help? Do you want to add permissions
so you can push it into git? Do you want to allow the creation of your
personal git repositories in TGW?
Cheers
24 Feb
24 Feb
9 p.m.
On Sunday 11 of October 2020 21:25:24 E. Liddell wrote:
For your amusement (and to test whether I can actually
*post* to the new
mailing lists, since I got the confirm and welcome mails, but other
messages have only been coming from the old list), I offer the following
glimpses of what the tweaked website will look like on smaller devices:
Really narrow screens (such as phones) will see this:
https://i.postimg.cc/m2tsMdWb/tdepage-phone.png
Note the vertical menu at the bottom, and the header has been resized so
that the word "Development" doesn't overflow off the screen to the
right.
Screens between 520px and 800px wide (of which I don't expect to find
many—some tablets held in portrait mode, maybe) will get this instead:
https://i.postimg.cc/y6fKkM5Q/tdepage-medium.png
Menu horizontal at the bottom, header larger but still not full-sized.
At 800px, it reverts to the format we all know and . . . love? In any
case, at 800px, the sidebar takes up a little more than 20% of the
screen, which should be acceptable to most.
The resizing trick doesn't work in Konqueror, unfortunately, since it
doesn't support CSS @media queries at the necessary level, but I am
going to be very surprised if anyone manages to get Konqueror onto a
phone. The page does resize itself correctly on the three modern
browsers I've tested.
E. Liddell
____________________________________________________
In order to move forward in refresh web, I prepare a new content of Get
Involved page. Its original content that was focused on developers I have
moved to the Development page. And the existing links for developers I
divided between Development and Resources. See attached images.
Keep in mind that this is not a final state - there is still a need for
more work on other pages, including Development section.
Cheers
--
Slávek
25 Feb
25 Feb
10:38 p.m.
New subject: [users] A look at the narrow version of the webpage
On 2020-10-11 20:31:40 Slávek Banko via tde-users wrote:
> Screens between 520px and 800px wide (of which I
don't expect to find
> many—some tablets held in portrait mode, maybe) will get this instead:
Some of us (well, me anyway) don't make our browser windows too wide (waste of screen
real estate); but 800px wide is rather extreme. :-)
Leslie
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