3 Sep
2020
3 Sep
'20
2:14 p.m.
I sent this email earlier, but since I didn't
receive my usual copy sent to
myself, it seemed that it never made it to the outside world.
And then there was a mildy amusing incident, and a few hours of creeping
panic, but I don't want to spoil the story, so I save it for its proper
place.
On Wednesday 02 September 2020 13:35:32 Janek Stolarek wrote:
> Three things:
>
> 1. Like others have already said, you need to enable access by unsafe apps
> in Gmail account settings. See [1].
>
> 2. In KMail POP3 settings you might need to prefix you POP3 username with
> "recent:" (without quotes but with colon), so for example in KMail
settings
my username is
entered as "recent:jwstolarek@gmail.com" (again, without
quotes). This enables checking email by multiple mail clients (in case you
have several machines). See [2]. Moreover, for me without the "recent:"
prefix, instead of having access to newest emails as they come in, I would
only see email in a batch every few hours.
Here is what I originally wrote:
Whoa! That is one cool trick! It might be general knowledge for some, but news to me, and I never found anything like that among
suggestions in
Gmail's
pages, nor on other sites who offer advice on how to
for Gmail. (Doesn't
work
on Zoho mail, however; just thought I'd give it a
try.) At least I managed
to
clear all the old emails off the server.
> 3. Contrary to what other said, I rarely have problems caused by logining
> in from different locations. I regularly use VPN so sometimes I'll be
> checking my email from Switzerland and 5 minutes later I'm checking it
from
Canada. I have
no problems in overwhelming majority of cases.
Yeah, I was beginning to feel like some kind of shiftless [or maybe
pariah, banned from Google periodically, because I
have moved from my home
to
the library, 15 minutes' walk from here.
Thanks for the tip!
Bill
P.S. After I implemented this change in my Gmail accounts [see above],
suddenly my wifi was disabled. I spent a few hours last night, then again
this morning, trying in vain to get it back. Then it seemed that my eth0, as
well, wasn't recognized! How can that be?
I even started the process of reinstalling my Devuan Beowulf (a pain, but
it's
much quicker now than it was when running Jessie);
during setup nothing in
my
network was recognized! Hardware failure?!?! Then I
tried some rescue discs
and other such tools; again, nothing happening.
The only thing I had done was to change that line in Gmail, then to check
email. Could Google really be such a Big Brother gangsta that they would
deliberately destroy my wireless and ethernet connections?
Those jive %@! >?$#~!!!!
At last I check my wifi antenna. (I know, it's weird to use a wifi antenna
for
a desktop computer, but I built this system out of
parts.) As it turns out,
somehow the USB got unplugged from the antenna itself, which is odd, because
I actually have it clamped in place, to make sure that cannot happen. I can
only imagine that I must have stepped on a wire when moving round the stand
that holds my printer; maybe just enough pressure to pull it loose.
Well, so the moral of this story is, never let your paranoia decide the
cause
of bad experiences, when your own clumsiness or
stupidity can explain it.
P.P.S. *It occurs to me that whether one is "shiftless" [unmotivated, lazy]
or "shifty" [nervous, acting guilty, moving round too much, no fixed abode,
etc.], both are bad. So is it better to be shifty or shiftless, or should
one
avoid this word altogether?
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Bill
You clearly missed the obvious conclusion and, likely, the correct answer.
Science, dear boy, science.
Gnomes, trolls and germlins. Clearly you have an infestation.
Kate
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3 Sep
3 Sep
2:20 p.m.
New subject: gmail and pop - with P.S.
On Thursday 03 September 2020 07:14:17 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
it's
shifty?]*
No, that seems unlikely, as I always leave out food and drink for the blessed
folk, and we have always had a very reciprocal relationship.
I prefer to believe that the Men in Black are after me. That seems a more
plausible explanation.
Bill
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I sent this
email earlier, but since I didn't receive my usual copy sent
to myself, it seemed that it never made it to the outside world.
And then there was a mildy amusing incident, and a few hours of creeping
panic, but I don't want to spoil the story, so I save it for its proper
place.
On Wednesday 02 September 2020 13:35:32 Janek Stolarek wrote:
> Three things:
>
> 1. Like others have already said, you need to enable access by unsafe
> apps in Gmail account settings. See [1].
>
> 2. In KMail POP3 settings you might need to prefix you POP3 username
> with "recent:" (without quotes but with colon), so for example in KMail
settings
my
username is entered as "recent:jwstolarek@gmail.com" (again, without
quotes). This enables checking email by multiple mail clients (in case
you have several machines). See [2]. Moreover, for me without the
"recent:" prefix, instead of having access to newest emails as they
come in, I would only see email in a batch every few hours.
Here is what I originally wrote:
Whoa! That is one cool trick! It might be general knowledge for some, but news to me, and I never found anything like that
among suggestions in
Gmail's
pages, nor on other sites who offer advice on how
to for Gmail. (Doesn't
work
on Zoho mail, however; just thought I'd give
it a try.) At least I
managed
to
clear all the old emails off the server.
> 3. Contrary to what other said, I rarely have problems caused by
> logining in from different locations. I regularly use VPN so sometimes
> I'll be checking my email from Switzerland and 5 minutes later I'm
> checking it
from
Canada. I
have no problems in overwhelming majority of cases.
Yeah, I was beginning to feel like some kind of shiftless [or maybe pariah, banned from Google periodically, because
I have moved from my
home
to
the library, 15 minutes' walk from here.
Thanks for the tip!
Bill
P.S. After I implemented this change in my Gmail accounts [see above],
suddenly my wifi was disabled. I spent a few hours last night, then again
this morning, trying in vain to get it back. Then it seemed that my eth0,
as well, wasn't recognized! How can that be?
I even started the process of reinstalling my Devuan Beowulf (a pain, but
it's
much quicker now than it was when running
Jessie); during setup nothing
in
my
network was recognized! Hardware failure?!?! Then
I tried some rescue
discs and other such tools; again, nothing happening.
The only thing I had done was to change that line in Gmail, then to check
email. Could Google really be such a Big Brother gangsta that they would
deliberately destroy my wireless and ethernet connections?
Those jive %@! >?$#~!!!!
At last I check my wifi antenna. (I know, it's weird to use a wifi
antenna
for
a desktop computer, but I built this system out
of parts.) As it turns
out, somehow the USB got unplugged from the antenna itself, which is odd,
because I actually have it clamped in place, to make sure that cannot
happen. I can only imagine that I must have stepped on a wire when moving
round the stand that holds my printer; maybe just enough pressure to pull
it loose.
Well, so the moral of this story is, never let your paranoia decide the
cause
of bad experiences, when your own clumsiness or
stupidity can explain it.
P.P.S. *It occurs to me that whether one is "shiftless" [unmotivated,
lazy] or "shifty" [nervous, acting guilty, moving round too much, no
fixed abode, etc.], both are bad. So is it better to be shifty or
shiftless, or should
one
avoid this word altogether?
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Bill
You clearly missed the obvious conclusion and, likely, the correct answer.
Science, dear boy, science.
Gnomes, trolls and germlins. Clearly you have an infestation.
Kate
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