I am just about to install Debian and TDE on my husband's birthday present box. He is quite clear that he wants Squeeze. He likes stability and would rather have a reinstallation in the not too distant future than have something not called Stable. And he hates change! But not even the prospect of being left in peace far longer could tempt him into Wheezy.
Moreover, he is adamant that he likes KDE 3 best. (I have given him various environments to try.)
BUT - I'm the one doing it! If I can present him with a stable box, even if not a Stable one, he will be happy.
So - how stable is Wheezy with TDE 3.5.14 nightly builds? I get the impression not quite.
But using Squeeze means opening the box and putting an extra network card in in order to be able to install it. (Or anything else with a kernel < 2.6.34.)
I just want to be quite sure in my mind that Wheezy won't yet do, before I start opening boxen.
Thanks . Lisi
On Thursday 27 December 2012 07:40:57 you wrote:
I am just about to install Debian and TDE on my husband's birthday present box. He is quite clear that he wants Squeeze. He likes stability and would rather have a reinstallation in the not too distant future than have something not called Stable. And he hates change! But not even the prospect of being left in peace far longer could tempt him into Wheezy.
Moreover, he is adamant that he likes KDE 3 best. (I have given him various environments to try.)
BUT - I'm the one doing it! If I can present him with a stable box, even if not a Stable one, he will be happy.
So - how stable is Wheezy with TDE 3.5.14 nightly builds? I get the impression not quite.
But using Squeeze means opening the box and putting an extra network card in in order to be able to install it. (Or anything else with a kernel < 2.6.34.)
I just want to be quite sure in my mind that Wheezy won't yet do, before I start opening boxen.
Thanks .
As usual, it depends :-) I have been testing Wheezy & nightlies for quite a while in a Vbox instance, mostly streaming media (flash content), entertainment no issiues that affect my usage.
I also put both on a new Thinkpad this summer, been updating for several months now with no issues.
I use the cli for all my file management and system config, no auto mount stuff, TDE as a WM, mostly for kdepim. I don't see some issues others may have since I don't use any of the KDE utilites etc.
I would strongly suggest using Wheezy, release critical bugs are the only issues left. I would suggest 3.5.14 (nightlies) instead of 3.5.13.1 + Squeeze depends.
On Friday 28 December 2012 04:07:12 Greg Madden wrote:
On Thursday 27 December 2012 07:40:57 you wrote:
BUT - I'm the one doing it! If I can present him with a stable box, even if not a Stable one, he will be happy.
So - how stable is Wheezy with TDE 3.5.14 nightly builds? I get the impression not quite.
But using Squeeze means opening the box and putting an extra network card in in order to be able to install it. (Or anything else with a kernel < 2.6.34.)
I just want to be quite sure in my mind that Wheezy won't yet do, before I start opening boxen.
As usual, it depends :-) I have been testing Wheezy & nightlies for quite a while in a Vbox instance, mostly streaming media (flash content), entertainment no issiues that affect my usage.
I also put both on a new Thinkpad this summer, been updating for several months now with no issues.
I use the cli for all my file management and system config, no auto mount stuff, TDE as a WM, mostly for kdepim. I don't see some issues others may have since I don't use any of the KDE utilites etc.
I would strongly suggest using Wheezy, release critical bugs are the only issues left. I would suggest 3.5.14 (nightlies) instead of 3.5.13.1 + Squeeze depends.
Thanks, Greg.
Lisi
On Friday 28 December 2012 04:07:12 Greg Madden wrote:
On Thursday 27 December 2012 07:40:57 you wrote:
BUT - I'm the one doing it! If I can present him with a stable box, even if not a Stable one, he will be happy.
So - how stable is Wheezy with TDE 3.5.14 nightly builds? I get the impression not quite.
But using Squeeze means opening the box and putting an extra network card in in order to be able to install it. (Or anything else with a kernel < 2.6.34.)
I just want to be quite sure in my mind that Wheezy won't yet do, before I start opening boxen.
As usual, it depends :-) I have been testing Wheezy & nightlies for quite a while in a Vbox instance, mostly streaming media (flash content), entertainment no issiues that affect my usage.
I also put both on a new Thinkpad this summer, been updating for several months now with no issues.
I use the cli for all my file management and system config, no auto mount stuff, TDE as a WM, mostly for kdepim. I don't see some issues others may have since I don't use any of the KDE utilites etc.
I would strongly suggest using Wheezy, release critical bugs are the only issues left. I would suggest 3.5.14 (nightlies) instead of 3.5.13.1 + Squeeze depends.
Thanks, Greg.
Lisi
Hi everyone, Last October, when I bought my first 64 bit computer, a Core 2 Duo with 2gb ram, I tried Debian Squeeze 64 bit with the stock KDE 4.x and I had many random crashes where the computer crash completely. Even if the admin tool are not up to my tastes, I finally been able to set up my system as I wished. After some hours, I had too much instabilities to use it normally on my everyday computer. Also, the system always asked for root password even to do such trivial things as mounting a usb drive or simply a partition on my HDD. Some persons might call this security, but I don't personally like that the users have access to the root password...
Then, I installed PCLOS 32 bit and everything was okay and stable, but slightly slower, probably due to being 32 bit instead of 64 bit. It has great graphics admin tools (thanks to Mandriva...) and very good stability.
I don't know if the instabilities of Debian were because it was the 64 bit architecture or because it didn't like my computer, but since about 2006, PCLOS has been the best for speed, stability and reliability for me!
-Alexandre
64 bit distros generally require more RAM, & therefore are slower on a system with only 2 GB of RAM.
Cheers,
Elcaset
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 4:38 AM, Alexandre Couture ac586133@hotmail.comwrote:
On Friday 28 December 2012 04:07:12 Greg Madden wrote:
On Thursday 27 December 2012 07:40:57 you wrote:
BUT - I'm the one doing it! If I can present him with a stable box, even if not a Stable one, he will be happy.
So - how stable is Wheezy with TDE 3.5.14 nightly builds? I get the impression not quite.
But using Squeeze means opening the box and putting an extra network card in in order to be able to install it. (Or anything else with a kernel < 2.6.34.)
I just want to be quite sure in my mind that Wheezy won't yet do, before I start opening boxen.
As usual, it depends :-) I have been testing Wheezy & nightlies for quite a while in a Vbox instance, mostly streaming media (flash content), entertainment no issiues that affect my usage.
I also put both on a new Thinkpad this summer, been updating for several months now with no issues.
I use the cli for all my file management and system config, no auto mount stuff, TDE as a WM, mostly for kdepim. I don't see some issues others may have since I don't use any of the KDE utilites etc.
I would strongly suggest using Wheezy, release critical bugs are the only issues left. I would suggest 3.5.14 (nightlies) instead of 3.5.13.1 + Squeeze depends.
Thanks, Greg.
Lisi
Hi everyone, Last October, when I bought my first 64 bit computer, a Core 2 Duo with 2gb ram, I tried Debian Squeeze 64 bit with the stock KDE 4.x and I had many random crashes where the computer crash completely. Even if the admin tool are not up to my tastes, I finally been able to set up my system as I wished. After some hours, I had too much instabilities to use it normally on my everyday computer. Also, the system always asked for root password even to do such trivial things as mounting a usb drive or simply a partition on my HDD. Some persons might call this security, but I don't personally like that the users have access to the root password...
Then, I installed PCLOS 32 bit and everything was okay and stable, but slightly slower, probably due to being 32 bit instead of 64 bit. It has great graphics admin tools (thanks to Mandriva...) and very good stability.
I don't know if the instabilities of Debian were because it was the 64 bit architecture or because it didn't like my computer, but since about 2006, PCLOS has been the best for speed, stability and reliability for me!
-Alexandre
Also, I forgot to mention, I'm a fan of PCLinuxOS, as well. It's a very fast KDE distro. If the PCLinuxOS repositories were as complete as Mint's repositories, I'd be using PCLinuxOS as my main distro, instead of Mint KDE.
Cheers,
Elcaset
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 5:04 PM, C W elcaseti@gmail.com wrote:
64 bit distros generally require more RAM, & therefore are slower on a system with only 2 GB of RAM.
Cheers,
Elcaset
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 4:38 AM, Alexandre Couture ac586133@hotmail.comwrote:
On Friday 28 December 2012 04:07:12 Greg Madden wrote:
On Thursday 27 December 2012 07:40:57 you wrote:
BUT - I'm the one doing it! If I can present him with a stable box, even if not a Stable one, he will be happy.
So - how stable is Wheezy with TDE 3.5.14 nightly builds? I get the impression not quite.
But using Squeeze means opening the box and putting an extra network card in in order to be able to install it. (Or anything else with a kernel < 2.6.34.)
I just want to be quite sure in my mind that Wheezy won't yet do, before I start opening boxen.
As usual, it depends :-) I have been testing Wheezy & nightlies for quite a while in a Vbox instance, mostly streaming media (flash content), entertainment no issiues that affect my usage.
I also put both on a new Thinkpad this summer, been updating for several months now with no issues.
I use the cli for all my file management and system config, no auto mount stuff, TDE as a WM, mostly for kdepim. I don't see some issues others may have since I don't use any of the KDE utilites etc.
I would strongly suggest using Wheezy, release critical bugs are the only issues left. I would suggest 3.5.14 (nightlies) instead of 3.5.13.1 + Squeeze depends.
Thanks, Greg.
Lisi
Hi everyone, Last October, when I bought my first 64 bit computer, a Core 2 Duo with 2gb ram, I tried Debian Squeeze 64 bit with the stock KDE 4.x and I had many random crashes where the computer crash completely. Even if the admin tool are not up to my tastes, I finally been able to set up my system as I wished. After some hours, I had too much instabilities to use it normally on my everyday computer. Also, the system always asked for root password even to do such trivial things as mounting a usb drive or simply a partition on my HDD. Some persons might call this security, but I don't personally like that the users have access to the root password...
Then, I installed PCLOS 32 bit and everything was okay and stable, but slightly slower, probably due to being 32 bit instead of 64 bit. It has great graphics admin tools (thanks to Mandriva...) and very good stability.
I don't know if the instabilities of Debian were because it was the 64 bit architecture or because it didn't like my computer, but since about 2006, PCLOS has been the best for speed, stability and reliability for me!
-Alexandre
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