13 May
2024
13 May
'24
2:25 p.m.
Hi all!
Is there a way to permaently hide these items?
- toolbars on top
- status line of editor subwindow (where it says "raw, column, filename, insert
...")
- tab buttons below editor window (terminal, search, ..)
Nik
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13 May
2:35 p.m.
New subject: kate question ...
Sorry, there is a "a" missing in the subject, it's about "kate".
Anno domini 2024 Mon, 13 May 16:25:29 +0200
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via tde-users scripsit:
Hi all!
Is there a way to permaently hide these items?
- toolbars on top
- status line of editor subwindow (where it says "raw, column, filename, insert
...")
- tab buttons below editor window (terminal, search, ..)
Nik
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10:42 p.m.
New subject: kate question ...
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via tde-users wrote:
> Is there a way to permaently hide these items?
> - toolbars on top
> - status line of editor subwindow (where it says "raw, column, filename,
> insert ...") - tab buttons below editor window (terminal, search, ..)
Try right mouse click on the toolbar and disable the "main toolbar" and/or
the extended one.(img1)
Same can be achieved in the menu under what should be called Settings in
English
14 May
14 May
6:23 a.m.
New subject: kate question ...
Anno domini 2024 Tue, 14 May 00:42:13 +0200
deloptes via tde-users scripsit:
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via tde-users wrote:
Yes, that works for the current session. But as soon as kate is restarted the toolbars are
there again. Any way to wark around that?
Nik
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> Is there a way to permaently hide these
items?
> - toolbars on top
> - status line of editor subwindow (where it says "raw, column, filename,
> insert ...") - tab buttons below editor window (terminal, search, ..)
Try right mouse click on the toolbar and disable the "main toolbar" and/or
the extended one.(img1)
Same can be achieved in the menu under what should be called Settings in
English 
4:22 p.m.
New subject: kate question ...
On Monday 13 May 2024 23:23:24 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via tde-users wrote:
Anno domini 2024 Tue, 14 May 00:42:13 +0200
deloptes via tde-users scripsit:
I can find many possible config files (with that -rc extension) that might be
the right one, but this seems most likely:
/<user>/.config/katerc
Please note the lines about tab bar, status bar, menu bar. If you don't find
exactly what you need, you may be able to write your own custom lines to make
it obey.
Other candidates for config files (including some that might be left over from
the old KDE3/4/5/etc.):
/opt/trinity/share/apps/kateui.rc
/<user>/.config/kateschemarc
/<user>/.config/katepartrc
There are other tucked away in
/<user>/.config/
/home/<user>/.kde/share/apps/
/home/<user>/.trinity/share/apps/
but that first one seems the best fit.
Bill
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via tde-users wrote:
Yes, that works for the current session. But as soon as kate is restarted
the toolbars are there again. Any way to wark around that?
Nik
> Is there a way to permaently hide these
items?
> - toolbars on top
> - status line of editor subwindow (where it says "raw, column,
> filename, insert ...") - tab buttons below editor window (terminal,
> search, ..)
Try right mouse click on the toolbar and disable the "main toolbar"
and/or the extended one.(img1)
Same can be achieved in the menu under what should be called Settings in
English
4:39 p.m.
New subject: kate question ...
William Morder via tde-users wrote:
I can find many possible config files (with that -rc extension) that might
be the right one, but this seems most likely:
/<user>/.config/katerc
Please note the lines about tab bar, status bar, menu bar. If you don't
find exactly what you need, you may be able to write your own custom lines
to make it obey.
Other candidates for config files (including some that might be left over
from the old KDE3/4/5/etc.):
/opt/trinity/share/apps/kateui.rc
/<user>/.config/kateschemarc
/<user>/.config/katepartrc
There are other tucked away in
/<user>/.config/
/home/<user>/.kde/share/apps/
/home/<user>/.trinity/share/apps/
but that first one seems the best fit.
Bill
On my Debian all of it is in ~/.trinity/share/config/
~/.trinity/share/config/katerc
But I do not think that this setting is being written anywhere. May be
someone like Michele, who knows it better could answer.
BR
5:18 p.m.
New subject: kate question ...
On Tuesday 14 May 2024 09:39:28 deloptes via tde-users wrote:
I have such a config file (in /home/~/.trinity/share/config/katerc), but mine
shows entirely different lines, and is much longer; although it is in the
trinity folder, which seems more appropriate.
Some of those others that I found could be leftovers from older systems
(especially the one that discovered in /home/~/.config/), but I often find
interesting possibilities in those old config files.
My older (obsolete?) katerc file reads:
#################
[General]
Config Revision=10
Days Meta Infos=30
Modified Notification=false
Recent File List Entry Count=10
Restore Window Configuration=true
Save Meta Infos=true
Show Full Path in Title=false
Show Menu Bar=true
Show Status Bar=true
Show Tab Bar=true
Startup Session=manual
[MainWindow]
State=AAAA/wAAAAD9AAAAAAAABkAAAAMlAAAABAAAAAQAAAAIAAAACPwAAAABAAAAAgAAAAEAAAAWAG0AYQBpAG4AVABvAG8AbABCAGEAcgAAAAAA/////wAAAAAAAAAA
ToolBarsMovable=Disabled
Window-Maximized 900x1600=true
#################
Those lines, Show Menu bar, Show Status Bar, change them to false, and those
bars ought to go away permanently. I am just guessing, but these lines might
be added to the correct config file.
Wherever it ought to be, this looks right:
/home/~/.trinity/share/config/katerc
Now, if those other lines could be added, maybe Nik can get what he wants.
I hope that reads intelligibly. I took bits from here and there and threw them
all together.
Bill
William Morder via tde-users wrote:
Other
candidates for config files (including some that might be left over
from the old KDE3/4/5/etc.):
/opt/trinity/share/apps/kateui.rc
/<user>/.config/kateschemarc
/<user>/.config/katepartrc
There are other tucked away in
/<user>/.config/
/home/<user>/.kde/share/apps/
/home/<user>/.trinity/share/apps/
but that first one seems the best fit.
Bill
On my Debian all of it is in ~/.trinity/share/config/
~/.trinity/share/config/katerc
But I do not think that this setting is being written anywhere. May be
someone like Michele, who knows it better could answer.
BR
6:20 p.m.
New subject: kate question ...
Anno domini 2024 Tue, 14 May 10:18:27 -0700
William Morder via tde-users scripsit:
On Tuesday 14 May 2024 09:39:28 deloptes via tde-users wrote:
I have such a config file (in /home/~/.trinity/share/config/katerc), but mine
shows entirely different lines, and is much longer; although it is in the
trinity folder, which seems more appropriate.
Some of those others that I found could be leftovers from older systems
(especially the one that discovered in /home/~/.config/), but I often find
interesting possibilities in those old config files.
My older (obsolete?) katerc file reads:
#################
[General]
Config Revision=10
Days Meta Infos=30
Modified Notification=false
Recent File List Entry Count=10
Restore Window Configuration=true
Save Meta Infos=true
Show Full Path in Title=false
Show Menu Bar=true
Show Status Bar=true
Show Tab Bar=true
Startup Session=manual
[MainWindow]
State=AAAA/wAAAAD9AAAAAAAABkAAAAMlAAAABAAAAAQAAAAIAAAACPwAAAABAAAAAgAAAAEAAAAWAG0AYQBpAG4AVABvAG8AbABCAGEAcgAAAAAA/////wAAAAAAAAAA
ToolBarsMovable=Disabled
Window-Maximized 900x1600=true
#################
Those lines, Show Menu bar, Show Status Bar, change them to false, and those
bars ought to go away permanently. I am just guessing, but these lines might
be added to the correct config file.
Wherever it ought to be, this looks right:
/home/~/.trinity/share/config/katerc
Now, if those other lines could be added, maybe Nik can get what he wants.
I hope that reads intelligibly. I took bits from here and there and threw them
all together.
A glimmer of hope, alas, short lived ... these cofig settings are gone with the wind.
There is a "ShowStatusBar" (without spaces") but it does nothing. I greped
through the source code, but it looks like there is nothing there any more. Interestingly
I found an antient klabtechrc that has setting for toolbars and status and therer's
code in kate that would read it but it does not work in kate - or maybe I missed
something.
Nik
William Morder via tde-users wrote:
Other
candidates for config files (including some that might be left over
from the old KDE3/4/5/etc.):
/opt/trinity/share/apps/kateui.rc
/<user>/.config/kateschemarc
/<user>/.config/katepartrc
There are other tucked away in
/<user>/.config/
/home/<user>/.kde/share/apps/
/home/<user>/.trinity/share/apps/
but that first one seems the best fit.
Bill
On my Debian all of it is in ~/.trinity/share/config/
~/.trinity/share/config/katerc
But I do not think that this setting is being written anywhere. May be
someone like Michele, who knows it better could answer.
BR
Bill
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7:13 p.m.
New subject: kate question ...
On Tuesday 14 May 2024 11:20:58 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via tde-users wrote:
A glimmer of hope, alas, short lived ... these cofig
settings are gone with
the wind. There is a "ShowStatusBar" (without spaces") but it does
nothing.
I greped through the source code, but it looks like there is nothing there
any more. Interestingly I found an antient klabtechrc that has setting for
toolbars and status and therer's code in kate that would read it but it >
does not work in kate - or maybe I missed something.
Nik
Did you put that header line, [General], before the lines for Show Menu Bar &
Show Status Bar? It seems like those headers might be important.
And please disregard my lines of ###s, I just use that to set off quoted text
in an email when it is a very long passage.
Every so often, I find that those snips taken from older config files still
work in the newer TDE releases. (I probably shouldn't say that; those tricks
might go away!)
In any case, it *seems* like something like this ought to work, if only you
can find the right config file. There are also some with a different
extension, .kcfg, that I find in the newer releases, no longer plaintext
files but rather something like xml, maybe? In any case, I looked there:
/opt/trinity/share/config.kcfg
and on my machine (running Devuan Daedalus) there is no .kcfg file for kate.
Whether or not these can be modified by the ordinary user, I don't know. But
if so, it may be possible to write your own. There are .kcfg files for other
similar Trinity apps, such as kedit.
I haven't yet tried to modify these, don't know if it's possible, but I
believe maybe there, or by changing lines in another such -rc file, your
hopes can at last be fulfilled, all your dreams come true.
Bill
7:56 p.m.
New subject: kate question ...
Anno domini 2024 Tue, 14 May 12:13:39 -0700
William Morder via tde-users scripsit:
On Tuesday 14 May 2024 11:20:58 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via tde-users wrote:
Yep.
A glimmer of hope, alas, short lived ... these
cofig settings are gone with
the wind. There is a "ShowStatusBar" (without spaces") but it does
nothing.
I greped through the source code, but it looks like there is nothing there
any more. Interestingly I found an antient klabtechrc that has setting for
toolbars and status and therer's code in kate that would read it but it >
does not work in kate - or maybe I missed something.
Nik
Did you put that header line, [General], before the lines for Show Menu Bar &
Show Status Bar? It seems like those headers might be important. And please disregard my lines of ###s, I just use that
to set off quoted text
in an email when it is a very long passage.
Every so often, I find that those snips taken from older config files still
work in the newer TDE releases. (I probably shouldn't say that; those tricks
might go away!)
In any case, it *seems* like something like this ought to work, if only you
can find the right config file. There are also some with a different
extension, .kcfg, that I find in the newer releases, no longer plaintext
files but rather something like xml, maybe? In any case, I looked there:
/opt/trinity/share/config.kcfg
and on my machine (running Devuan Daedalus) there is no .kcfg file for kate.
Whether or not these can be modified by the ordinary user, I don't know. But
if so, it may be possible to write your own. There are .kcfg files for other
similar Trinity apps, such as kedit.
Neither is on my machine.
I haven't yet tried to modify these, don't
know if it's possible, but I
believe maybe there, or by changing lines in another such -rc file, your
hopes can at last be fulfilled, all your dreams come true.
Can you make the toolbar disappear permanently on your system?
Nik
Bill
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9:04 p.m.
New subject: kate question ...
On Tuesday 14 May 2024 12:56:37 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via tde-users wrote:
You ask for things never attempted. I don't actually use kate. I use kedit and
other basic Linux text editor apps. Maybe it's because I don't do any real
coding to speak of, only the occasional hack to my system.
At present, this is how my kate looks. (See attachment for screenshot.) The
only toolbar is the basic menu. If you want to get rid of that, too, I will
have to poke around to see what happens.
Otherwise, my kate is probably the same as way back in about 2006-2008, when I
first got into Linux, then soon thereafter discovered the KDE3 desktop. Like
I said, I never use kate, or don't remember using it. I probably tried it
out, but it didn't suit me.
If you like, I will make a few experiments; once I find out what config file
has those settings, that is, and make a backup. But if you also want the menu
bar to disappear, that may be impossible, as deloptes points out in separate
response, if, or because, (quoting here): "corresponding code to read the
value and use it in the code"; I don't know about that, as I am not a
developer, don't mess around with code.
Bill
Anno domini 2024 Tue, 14 May 12:13:39 -0700
In any case,
it *seems* like something like this ought to work, if only
you can find the right config file. There are also some with a different
extension, .kcfg, that I find in the newer releases, no longer plaintext
files but rather something like xml, maybe? In any case, I looked there:
/opt/trinity/share/config.kcfg
and on my machine (running Devuan Daedalus) there is no .kcfg file for
kate. Whether or not these can be modified by the ordinary user, I don't
know. But if so, it may be possible to write your own. There are .kcfg
files for other similar Trinity apps, such as kedit.
Neither is on my machine.
I haven't yet tried to modify these,
don't know if it's possible, but I
believe maybe there, or by changing lines in another such -rc file, your
hopes can at last be fulfilled, all your dreams come true.
Can you make the toolbar disappear permanently on your system?
Nik
10:32 p.m.
New subject: kate question ... results of experiment
On Tuesday 14 May 2024 14:04:35 William Morder wrote:
On Tuesday 14 May 2024 12:56:37 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via
tde-users wrote:
Anno domini 2024 Tue, 14 May 12:13:39 -0700
Can you make the toolbar disappear permanently on your system?
Nik
If you like, I will make a few experiments
Well, I will assume that I got the right config file, here:
/home/~/.trinity/share/config/katerc
I added these lines after version header, but before any other headers:
#################
[General]
Days Meta Infos=30
Last Session=
Modified Notification=false
Restore Window Configuration=false
Save Meta Infos=true
Show Full Path in Title=false
Show Menu Bar=false
Show Status Bar=false
Startup Session=manual
[Kate Document Defaults]
#################
When I first start kate, there are no toolbars, but when I click for new
session, the same toolbars as I had appear. I can make the icons go away in
settings (within the gui), but the menu toolbar remains.
See attachments.
Bill
10:43 p.m.
New subject: kate question ... results of experiment #2
On Tuesday 14 May 2024 15:32:28 William Morder wrote:
> On Tuesday 14 May 2024 12:56:37 Dr. Nikolaus
Klepp via tde-users wrote:
> > Anno domini 2024 Tue, 14 May 12:13:39 -0700
> > Can you make the toolbar disappear permanently on your system?
> >
> >
> > Nik
>
Within kate's gui, I got rid of all the icons on the lower toolbar, only that
menu bar remains, and probably cannot be made to disappear.
See attachment.
Bill
15 May
15 May
6:38 a.m.
New subject: kate question ... results of experiment #2
Anno domini 2024 Tue, 14 May 15:43:17 -0700
William Morder via tde-users scripsit:
On Tuesday 14 May 2024 15:32:28 William Morder wrote:
Hi Bill,
is this permanent, e.g. does it survive restarting kate?
> On Tuesday 14 May 2024 12:56:37 Dr. Nikolaus
Klepp via tde-users wrote:
> > Anno domini 2024 Tue, 14 May 12:13:39 -0700
> > Can you make the toolbar disappear permanently on your system?
> >
> >
> > Nik
>
Within kate's gui, I got rid of all the icons on the lower toolbar, only that
menu bar remains, and probably cannot be made to disappear.
See attachment.
Bill
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New subject: kate question ... results of experiment #2
On Tuesday 14 May 2024 23:38:09 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via tde-users wrote:
Hi Bill,
is this permanent, e.g. does it survive restarting kate?
It is permanent, yes, except
that I can't seem to get rid of that sidebar. But
somewhere I saw something about making the sidebar go away, too. Look in
Window > Tool Views > Hide Sidebars or just alt-ctrl-shift-F to get rid of
them. I think there must be a way to make the sidebar go away permanently, as
well.
There is yet another possible way to get rid of even the menubar, but that
would mean going into the window settings, and I have found that trying to
apply it to a specific application gives very mixed results. Sometimes you
will find those same changes applied to other application windows, where you
did not want them.
If you are brave or foolhardy, however, then right-click at the top of kate's
window, in the title border, Advanced > Special Application Settings > Window
Extra. It seems that it is possible to configure even those borders and
toolbars to go away, but good luck getting them back. I like to do a lot of
special window configurations, to make applications open in specific
desktops, for example, or to use workarounds like focus stealing prevention,
but I haven't had much luck using those settings to suppress part of a
window's appearance. I doubt that's possible, at least not without messing up
other applications.
In any case, except for the sidebar, that's how it looks for me when I open,
the click to start a new session.
Bill
Anno domini 2024 Tue, 14 May 15:43:17 -0700
William Morder via tde-users scripsit:
> On Tuesday 14 May 2024 15:32:28 William Morder wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 14 May 2024 12:56:37 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via tde-users
wrote:
> > Anno domini 2024 Tue, 14 May 12:13:39 -0700
> > Can you make the toolbar disappear permanently on your system?
> >
> >
> > Nik
Within kate's gui, I got rid of all the icons on the lower toolbar, only
that menu bar remains, and probably cannot be made to disappear.
See attachment. Bill
8:23 a.m.
New subject: kate question ... results of experiment #2
On Wednesday 15 May 2024 00:58:20 William Morder via tde-users wrote:
On Tuesday 14 May 2024 23:38:09 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via
tde-users wrote:
There is yet another trick I just got. Save session, then it will open up
exactly as you left it. There remains the problem of naming, because you can
set kate to load your last saved session:
Settings > Configure Kate > Sessions
but if you start with a plain saved session, then it seems that all your
subsequent sessions ought to keep the same appearance.
I tested it, and kate opens saved sessions that look exactly like that last
screenshot I sent.
Unless you want to go into those window settings that I mentioned before, I
think this is about as close as you can get.
Bill
9:59 a.m.
New subject: kate question ... results of experiment #2
Anno domini 2024 Wed, 15 May 00:58:20 -0700
William Morder via tde-users scripsit:
[...]
If you are brave or foolhardy, however, then right-click at the top of kate's
window, in the title border, Advanced > Special Application Settings > Window
Extra. It seems that it is possible to configure even those borders and
toolbars to go away, but good luck getting them back. I like to do a lot of
special window configurations, to make applications open in specific
desktops, for example, or to use workarounds like focus stealing prevention,
but I haven't had much luck using those settings to suppress part of a
window's appearance. I doubt that's possible, at least not without messing up
other applications.
In any case, except for the sidebar, that's how it looks for me when I open,
the click to start a new session.
You are a live saver :)
Ok, this is how it works:
- Disable "save session on exit": kate always loads the default settings
including visible toolbars etc. And there are 2 sessions named "Unknown". -->
this is what I had and it is bad.
- Enable "save settings on exit": creates or overwrites a session file in
/home/nik/.trinity/share/apps/kate/sessions/[strangeletternumbercombo].katesession Now
this file has everything in it I saw in the source code. Rename it to
"empty.katesession", remove all file references, make it readonly amd change the
session name in sessions.list. --> toolbar is gone and the other stuff is
configurable.
Now I have what I want :)
Nik
Bill
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5:55 p.m.
New subject: kate question ... results of experiment #2
On Wednesday 15 May 2024 02:59:46 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via tde-users wrote:
Anno domini 2024 Wed, 15 May 00:58:20 -0700
You are a live saver :)
Ok, this is how it works:
- Disable "save session on exit": kate always loads the default settings
including visible toolbars etc. And there are 2 sessions named "Unknown".
--> this is what I had and it is bad.
- Enable "save settings on exit": creates or overwrites a session file in
/home/nik/.trinity/share/apps/kate/sessions/[strangeletternumbercombo].kate
session Now this file has everything in it I saw in the source code. Rename
it to "empty.katesession", remove all file references, make it readonly amd
change the session name in sessions.list. --> toolbar is gone and the other
stuff is configurable.
Now I have what I want :)
Nik
Glad I could help. On many of those applications inherited from KDE3 -- or
maybe earlier -- it is usually possible yet to do some creative self-hacking.
Bill
6:04 p.m.
New subject: kate question ... results of experiment #2
On 5/15/24 2:59 AM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via tde-users wrote:
- Disable "save session on exit": kate
always loads the default settings
including visible toolbars etc. And there are 2 sessions named "Unknown".
--> this is what I had and it is bad.
- Enable "save settings on exit": creates or overwrites a session file in
/home/nik/.trinity/share/apps/kate/sessions/[strangeletternumbercombo].katesession
Now this file has everything in it I saw in the source code. Rename it to
"empty.katesession", remove all file references, make it readonly amd
change the session name in sessions.list. --> toolbar is gone and the
other stuff is configurable.
I haven't been following this discussion very closely, so may have missed
something. But what I did notice I think could be accomplished simply by
using kwrite instead of kate, unless you need kate's session functionality.
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6:18 p.m.
New subject: kate question ... results of experiment #2
On Wednesday 15 May 2024 11:04:37 Dan Youngquist via tde-users wrote:
On 5/15/24 2:59 AM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via tde-users
wrote:
I don't actually use either kate or kwrite. I use kedit and some other, basic
Linux text editors. (I still use a version of leafpad from an older system,
because it requires no dependencies, still works, and just does what I want.)
I don't need a text editor for coding.
Nik is the one who wants to use kate, For me, it was just the challenge of
getting it work as somebody wants to use it. It's more fun than watching
television.
Bill
- Disable "save session on exit": kate
always loads the default settings
including visible toolbars etc. And there are 2 sessions named "Unknown".
--> this is what I had and it is bad.
- Enable "save settings on exit": creates or overwrites a session file in
/home/nik/.trinity/share/apps/kate/sessions/[strangeletternumbercombo].ka
tesession Now this file has everything in it I saw in the source code.
Rename it to "empty.katesession", remove all file references, make it
readonly amd change the session name in sessions.list. --> toolbar is
gone and the other stuff is configurable.
I haven't been following this discussion very closely, so may have missed
something. But what I did notice I think could be accomplished simply by
using kwrite instead of kate, unless you need kate's session functionality.
6:47 p.m.
New subject: kate question ... results of experiment #2
Anno domini 2024 Wed, 15 May 11:18:18 -0700
William Morder via tde-users scripsit:
On Wednesday 15 May 2024 11:04:37 Dan Youngquist via tde-users wrote:
Yep, I'm the culprit :) Actually I use kate 'cause geany went south with GTK3. I
like the SDI interface and the files tab. I fill the files list from my Makefile and the
included make-output-parser + terminal fit my development cycle. I just try to get more
vertical pixels and readable lines of text for the texteditor on this t480's hdpi
display.
Nik
On 5/15/24 2:59 AM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via
tde-users wrote:
I don't actually use either kate or kwrite. I use kedit and some other, basic
Linux text editors. (I still use a version of leafpad from an older system,
because it requires no dependencies, still works, and just does what I want.)
I don't need a text editor for coding.
Nik is the one who wants to use kate, For me, it was just the challenge of
getting it work as somebody wants to use it. It's more fun than watching
television.
- Disable "save session on exit": kate
always loads the default settings
including visible toolbars etc. And there are 2 sessions named "Unknown".
--> this is what I had and it is bad.
- Enable "save settings on exit": creates or overwrites a session file in
/home/nik/.trinity/share/apps/kate/sessions/[strangeletternumbercombo].ka
tesession Now this file has everything in it I saw in the source code.
Rename it to "empty.katesession", remove all file references, make it
readonly amd change the session name in sessions.list. --> toolbar is
gone and the other stuff is configurable.
I haven't been following this discussion very closely, so may have missed
something. But what I did notice I think could be accomplished simply by
using kwrite instead of kate, unless you need kate's session functionality. Bill
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14 May
14 May
8:31 p.m.
New subject: kate question ...
William Morder via tde-users wrote:
Did you put that header line, [General], before the
lines for Show Menu
Bar & Show Status Bar? It seems like those headers might be important.
And please disregard my lines of ###s, I just use that to set off quoted
text in an email when it is a very long passage.
Every so often, I find that those snips taken from older config files
still work in the newer TDE releases. (I probably shouldn't say that;
those tricks might go away!)
In any case, it *seems* like something like this ought to work, if only
you can find the right config file. There are also some with a different
extension, .kcfg, that I find in the newer releases, no longer plaintext
files but rather something like xml, maybe? In any case, I looked there:
/opt/trinity/share/config.kcfg
and on my machine (running Devuan Daedalus) there is no .kcfg file for
kate. Whether or not these can be modified by the ordinary user, I don't
know. But if so, it may be possible to write your own. There are .kcfg
files for other similar Trinity apps, such as kedit.
I haven't yet tried to modify these, don't know if it's possible, but I
believe maybe there, or by changing lines in another such -rc file, your
hopes can at last be fulfilled, all your dreams come true.
1. regarding the location
I am pretty sure the correct place is ~/.trinity (this was .kde3 before).
2. regarding the format
K/TDE uses a simple text-based file format for all its configuration files.
It consists of key-value pairs that are placed in groups. All KDE
configuration files use UTF-8 encoding for text outside the ASCII range.
The start of a group is indicated by a group name that is placed in square
brackets. All the key-value entries that follow belong to the group. The
group ends when either another group starts or when the end of the file is
reached.
Entries at the top of the file that are not preceded by a group name belong
to the default group.
https://userbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/Configuration_Files
3. regarding changes in those config files.
There must be corresponding code to read the value and use it in the code.
As I am not aware of such options in Kate, I can only suggest to create
feature request in TGW for extending Kate with this feature.
In fact I think the showing of the toolbar when the app starts is hardcoded
in Kate.
4. regarding the code behind
The TQToolBar inherits TQDockWindows and we find following information
TQMainWindow provides four dock areas (top, left, right and bottom) which
can be used by dock windows. For many applications using the dock areas
provided by TQMainWindow is sufficient. (See the TQDockArea documentation
if you want to create your own dock areas.) In TQMainWindow a right-click
popup menu (the dock window menu) is available which lists dock windows and
can be used to show or hide them. (The popup menu only lists dock windows
that have a caption.)
https://www.trinitydesktop.org/docs/qt3/ntqdockwindow.html
5. In the case of Kate there are two XML UI files (I think at some point of
time they received the extention .ui, but in this case it is ...ui.rc
Anyway there is the gui - the things that you see
/opt/trinity/share/apps/kate/kateui.rc
/opt/trinity/share/apps/ktechlab/ktechlabkateui.rc
I don't know what happens if you remove ToolBar from the XML.
The code usually binds to those elements and provides standard or custom
functionality.
BR
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