Now that's probably not the safest way to do it; can someone else suggest a safer method for end-users? This also sounds like something that should be on our Wiki.

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA224 Simplest? sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

On Wednesday 21 May 2014 10:53:38 Aleksey Midenkov wrote: If one is asking aptitude to upgrade a particular version of a particular package, surely one has to name the package as well as the version? And the version one wants, not the version one has?? Lisi --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

Man, my message was not just 'a guess'. It was real command that was really run and really brought good result. I've done upgrade with it.

On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz(a)gmail.com> wrote: '?version(X)' selects all packages whose version contains substring X for upgrade. 'safe-upgrade' does 'lazy' upgrade. I.e. it will not select anything additional unless required by the selected packages. 'aptitude' by itself resolves conflicts more intelligently than 'apt-get'. So, that's it -- just one command and whole KDE3 is upgraded without any PIA!

On 21 May 2014 19:53, Aleksey Midenkov <midenok(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> >> aptitude safe-upgrade '?version(4:3.5.13)' > >> > >> if 4:3.5.13 is currently installed version.

Not true. Just try 'man aptitude'.

Not true. Just try 'man aptitude'.

Time to upgrade my main Wheezy install to R14. This went simply, flawlessly and quickly:

Pleased to help, since Debian is my OS of choice and TDE my DE of choice.

hal-trinity libqt3-mt were marked as "automatically installed and are no longer required" Can someone please confirm they can be safely purged?

Someone else did mention what I forgot: do a backup before any major upgrade

There is normally no reason why a Debian system should ever need to be reinstalled.

No comment on aptitude, I don't normally use it.

Someone suggested "apt-get upgrade". This is *not* correct (read man

Here the most simple way is considered the way least likely to cause problems. Time to upgrade my main Wheezy install to R14. This went simply, flawlessly and quickly: 1. Change TDE sources to R14 2. apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade -d 3. Close X (service kdm-trinity stop) and login as root to console 4. apt-get dist-upgrade 5. Reboot to R14! (probably enough to: service tdm-trinity start) Some post-upgrade cleanups (do this in X): There will be quite a few TDE "transitional" packages which can now be removed. dpkg -l|grep trinity|grep "This can be safely removed"|awk '{print $2}' > /tmp/transitional_packages (su) or (sudo su) for i in $(cat /tmp/transitional_packages); do apt-get -y --force-yes purge $i; done Now, there may be some marked as "automatically installed and no longer required" that you want to keep. This will be shown in the terminal. To change their status do, e.g. "apt-mark manual package1 package2 package3" Job done, everything is nice and clean. NOTES: Someone suggested "apt-get upgrade". This is *not* correct (read man apt-get). Some essential packages might get held back, leaving a broken system. Do "apt-get dist-upgrade -d" first: if anything is wrong with the mirrors things can break. This has happened before. I'm finding Slavek's mirror faster than than "nightlies" Major upgrades while X is running or using GUI package managers: If you really must, good luck to you, you may need it. There is normally no reason why a Debian system should ever need to be reinstalled. No comment on aptitude, I don't normally use it. Regards, David --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@ lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@lists. pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users. pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity. pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

Simplest? sudo apt-get dist-upgrade Now that's probably not the safest way to do it; can someone else suggest a safer method for end-users? This also sounds like something that should be on our Wiki. Thanks! Tim