29 Nov
2016
29 Nov
'16
8:32 p.m.
hey,
I'm considering the zenbook ux330ua.
I've found people online saying they successfully installed Mint or
some other Linux variant; so I'm confident about Trinity. (I got
Trinity on a ux305f, no problem, also Windows 7.)
I'd prefer Windows 7 on it instead of Windows 10. I see no one who's
undertaken this and no drivers on Asus's site.
can I infer from the fact that Linux will install that Windows 7 will
LIKELY install also? or a complete leap in the dark?
I'm also considering the Thinkpad Carbon x1 which is likely no problem
at all; older but maybe more functional.
f.
--
Felmon Davis
For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat,
and wrong.
-- H. L. Mencken
30 Nov
30 Nov
3:01 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] [OT] question about ultrabook
On 11/29/2016 12:32 PM, Felmon Davis wrote:
I'm considering the zenbook ux330ua.
I'd prefer Windows 7 on it instead of Windows 10. I see no one who's
undertaken this and no drivers on Asus's site.
can I infer from the fact that Linux will install that Windows 7 will LIKELY
install also? or a complete leap in the dark?
Closer to the "leap in the dark" category. No doubt 7 will install, but if
Asus doesn't have drivers for it, you'd have to check with the OEMs of
whatever hardware is in the machine, and they probably won't have drivers
for 7 either. So you may end up with nonfunctional ethernet, wifi, video
(will work but with generic driver), USB ports, etc., etc.
Activating Windows 7 would be another issue, but you may have that under
control.
3:11 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] [OT] question about ultrabook
On Tue, 29 Nov 2016, Dan Youngquist wrote:
On 11/29/2016 12:32 PM, Felmon Davis wrote:
so Linux offers decent drivers but quite possibly Microsoft and/or
Asus would not.
the person who got Mint on board said there only hitch was the using
the functional keys for dimming or brightening the screen, which could
be gotten around with xbacklight.
I'm considering the zenbook ux330ua.
I'd prefer Windows 7 on it instead of Windows 10. I see no one who's
undertaken this and no drivers on Asus's site.
can I infer from the fact that Linux will install that Windows 7 will LIKELY
install also? or a complete leap in the dark?
Closer to the "leap in the dark" category. No doubt 7 will install, but if
Asus doesn't have drivers for it, you'd have to check with the OEMs of
whatever hardware is in the machine, and they probably won't have drivers
for 7 either. So you may end up with nonfunctional ethernet, wifi, video
(will work but with generic driver), USB ports, etc., etc. Activating Windows 7 would be another issue, but you
may have that under
control.
I'd be using a legit copy of Windows 7. got a cheap license.
f.
--
Felmon Davis
To be or not to be, that is the bottom line.
3:20 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] [OT] question about ultrabook
On 11/29/2016 07:11 PM, Felmon Davis wrote:
so Linux offers decent drivers but quite possibly
Microsoft and/or Asus
would not.
Basically, yes. The problem is that they keep coming out with new chips for
all the internals. (Ethernet? Wifi? They've been making those with the
same capabilities for how many years, why do they need a new chip? But I
digress.) Then they don't bother making drivers for the new stuff for older
versions of Windows. If you really want Win7 and that machine, you could
find out exactly what hardware it has and try to find drivers before buying.
Or you could install Linux, and run Windoze in Virtualbox.
4:21 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] [OT] question about ultrabook
On Tue, 29 Nov 2016, Dan Youngquist wrote:
On 11/29/2016 07:11 PM, Felmon Davis wrote:
guess the main things would be video and wifi (there's no ethernet).
also guess I'm assuming usb, card reader, and whatever would be
generic enough for Windows 7. I don't use touchpads.
seems like a real construction project.
so Linux offers decent drivers but quite possibly
Microsoft and/or Asus
would not.
Basically, yes. The problem is that they keep coming out with new chips for
all the internals. (Ethernet? Wifi? They've been making those with the
same capabilities for how many years, why do they need a new chip? But I
digress.) Then they don't bother making drivers for the new stuff for older
versions of Windows. If you really want Win7 and that machine, you could
find out exactly what hardware it has and try to find drivers before buying. Or you could install Linux, and run Windoze in
Virtualbox.
it's got an i7 and 8gb ram. never really fooled with VB.
oh well. love is a sometime thing.
f.
--
Felmon Davis
Fain would I climb, yet fear I to fall.
-- Sir Walter Raleigh
1:41 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] [OT] question about ultrabook
On Wednesday 30 November 2016, Felmon Davis wrote:
I'm running Linix Mint on my Zenbook UX305FA and Win 7 in a virtual
box and it runs nicely!
Gerhard
Or you could
install Linux, and run Windoze in Virtualbox.
it's got an i7 and 8gb ram. never really fooled with VB.
oh well. love is a sometime thing.
5:10 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] [OT] question about ultrabook
On Wed, 30 Nov 2016, Gerhard Zintel wrote:
On Wednesday 30 November 2016, Felmon Davis wrote:
I'm running Linix Mint on my Zenbook UX305FA and Win 7 in a virtual
box and it runs nicely!
encouraging! I may try it on my UX305F which now dual-boots Trinity
and Windows 7. if that works, maybe I'll go for the ux330ua.
I'm eyeing the Thinkpad e460 instead though. I know there're no
problems there and in some ways it's better.
but I do love the display on the ux305f and its light weight.
f.
--
Felmon Davis
It is the theory which decides what can be observed.
-- Albert Einstein
Or you
could install Linux, and run Windoze in Virtualbox.
it's got an i7 and 8gb ram. never really fooled with VB.
oh well. love is a sometime thing.
1 Dec
1 Dec
5:20 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] [OT] question about ultrabook
On Wed, 30 Nov 2016, Gerhard Zintel wrote:
On Wednesday 30 November 2016, Felmon Davis wrote:
I'm running Linix Mint on my Zenbook UX305FA and Win 7 in a virtual
box and it runs nicely!
Gerhard
against my better instincts I decided to try the Zenbook. will attempt
a dual install.
we'll see.
f.
--
Felmon Davis
For I do not do the good I want, but the evil I do not want is what I
do. -- Paul of Tarsus
Or you
could install Linux, and run Windoze in Virtualbox.
it's got an i7 and 8gb ram. never really fooled with VB.
oh well. love is a sometime thing.
28 Dec
28 Dec
12:08 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] [OT] question about ultrabook
On Thu, 1 Dec 2016, Felmon Davis wrote:
On Wed, 30 Nov 2016, Gerhard Zintel wrote:
reporting back after long last.
I had bought the Zenbook ux330ua and was wanting to run Windows 7 and
Linux on it. it has been returned to the seller.
Linux ran rather smoothly on it.
I couldn't get Windows 7 to see past some kind of uefi limitation.
secure-boot was turned off and the 'legacy boot' utility csm was on
but I got an error about failing 'acpi compliance' which I could not
overcome.
I did run Windows 7 in a VM for a while but I'd rather be able to boot
to Windows directly. I realized I couldn't stand the thought of
running Windows 10 - I'm unhappy about the forced update policy among
other things.
I also didn't like the fact the unit had two regular-size usb and one
micro. the ux305f I had bought previously has three regulars.
I haven't yet experimented with 'booting' a Windows partition on
the hard-drive into a VM.
f.
--
Felmon Davis
When you die, you lose a very important part of your life.
-- Brooke Shields
On Wednesday 30 November 2016, Felmon Davis
wrote:
I'm running Linix Mint on my Zenbook UX305FA and Win 7 in a virtual
box and it runs nicely!
Gerhard
against my better instincts I decided to try the Zenbook. will attempt a dual
install.
we'll see.
f. Or you
could install Linux, and run Windoze in Virtualbox.
it's got an i7 and 8gb ram. never really fooled with VB.
oh well. love is a sometime thing.
12:27 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] [OT] question about ultrabook
On Tue, 27 Dec 2016, Felmon Davis wrote:
On Thu, 1 Dec 2016, Felmon Davis wrote:
I just remembered: the computer finally failed to boot. you could see
some dull illumination on the screen if you pressed an arbitrary key.
I tried running out the battery.
since I was already unhappy with it for reasons already reported, I
was glad to have this definitive reason to return it.
f.
--
Felmon Davis
Life is like a simile.
On Wed, 30 Nov 2016, Gerhard Zintel wrote:
reporting back after long last.
I had bought the Zenbook ux330ua and was wanting to run Windows 7 and Linux
on it. it has been returned to the seller. On Wednesday 30 November 2016, Felmon Davis
wrote:
against my better instincts I decided to try the Zenbook. will attempt a
dual install.
we'll see.
f. > Or you could install Linux, and run Windoze
in Virtualbox.
it's got an i7 and 8gb ram. never really fooled with VB.
oh well. love is a sometime thing.
I'm running Linix Mint on my Zenbook UX305FA and Win 7 in a virtual
box and it runs nicely!
Gerhard
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