On Monday 25 June 2018 21:30:31 Kate Draven wrote:
On Monday 25 June 2018 14:15:18 J Leslie Turriff wrote:
On 2018-06-25 01:08:32 William Morder wrote:
I can't imagine that I am 100 years old, but I can imagine that I am 60, and have already begun to feel the ravages of time on my body.
It
also
is
a pain to use computer screens that are designed by and for young
people.
One of the reasons I'm not using KDE4/Plasma is that there are no HiColor icons available there (AFAIK), just the wishy-washy pastel
ones
that imitate Windoze. Their contrast is so poor it's hard for me to
distinguish
one icon from another in many cases. As you say, today's desktops are designed for young people, by young people, and the limitations due to aging or other disabilities are not thought of, while they seem to be concentrating on eye-candy instead of functionality.
Leslie
Old people have less disposable income, so there's no reason to waste time designing systems for them to use when they can't afford them anyway. Also, old people tend to die sooner than young people, so it's a shrinking market.
Bill
Only fools count the marginalized out.
Kate AKA Konfucius
"... my super-dainty Kate - For dainties are all Kates -" (or thus quoth another bloke named William)
Bill
LOL you're alright mate, and a mighty poet. Me great grandmother always said the above to encourage me. I was a wee child (and adult now) so everyone always assumed I was incapable. They were wrong lol.
Most of the people I have using Linux are over the age of 60. About, hmm, 40 something people. Then about a dozen kids. It's because of the high numbers of pensioners that I'm trying to get qtcurve to use background images like the brushed metal of baghira. The background doesn't blend in with the colours, making it easier for them to see differences. I feel they are worth the effort, despite how much they've shrunk.
But this is all off topice so I'll end it here. Back to business lads and lasses.
Cheers William of The Poets
Kate
On Tuesday 26 June 2018 01:56:23 Kate Draven wrote:
On Monday 25 June 2018 21:30:31 Kate Draven wrote:
On Monday 25 June 2018 14:15:18 J Leslie Turriff wrote:
On 2018-06-25 01:08:32 William Morder wrote:
I can't imagine that I am 100 years old, but I can imagine that I am 60, and have already begun to feel the ravages of time on my body.
It
also
is
a pain to use computer screens that are designed by and for young
people.
One of the reasons I'm not using KDE4/Plasma is that there are no HiColor icons available there (AFAIK), just the wishy-washy pastel
ones
that imitate Windoze. Their contrast is so poor it's hard for me to
distinguish
one icon from another in many cases. As you say, today's desktops are designed for young people, by young people, and the limitations due to aging or other disabilities are not thought of, while they seem to be concentrating on eye-candy instead of functionality.
Leslie
Old people have less disposable income, so there's no reason to waste time designing systems for them to use when they can't afford them anyway. Also, old people tend to die sooner than young people, so it's a shrinking market.
Bill
Only fools count the marginalized out.
Kate AKA Konfucius
"... my super-dainty Kate - For dainties are all Kates -" (or thus quoth another bloke named William)
Bill
LOL you're alright mate, and a mighty poet. Me great grandmother always said the above to encourage me. I was a wee child (and adult now) so everyone always assumed I was incapable. They were wrong lol.
Most of the people I have using Linux are over the age of 60. About, hmm, 40 something people. Then about a dozen kids. It's because of the high numbers of pensioners that I'm trying to get qtcurve to use background images like the brushed metal of baghira. The background doesn't blend in with the colours, making it easier for them to see differences. I feel they are worth the effort, despite how much they've shrunk.
And Kate, since I'm in that "geriatric" profile at my soon to be 84 years, I certainly respect your efforts to drag the seniors into the computer litterate age, so a doff of my ever present semi-western hat to you seems well deserved indeed. My local senior center runs such a program, but its all on (spit up a big one) winders. Mention linux and get shushed.
But I was a nerd before the word was invented, so when computers became affordable, I was on-board, putting them to work at labor saving jobs fairly early. The first such project used a Quest Super Elf, with an RCA 1802 processor. It applied all the work needed to a just composed tv commercial to make them work with an automatic station break machine. And while I have long since gone down the road from that tv stations engineering staff, the last time I checked, 15 years later, it was still in use. Thats a couple of eons in tv station control room time.
But this is all off topice so I'll end it here.
BS. Its all in the "getting to know the neighbors" AFAIAC.
Back to business lads and lasses.
Cheers William of The Poets
Thats a + too.
Kate
On Tuesday 26 June 2018 05:54:00 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Tuesday 26 June 2018 01:56:23 Kate Draven wrote:
On Monday 25 June 2018 21:30:31 Kate Draven wrote:
On Monday 25 June 2018 14:15:18 J Leslie Turriff wrote:
On 2018-06-25 01:08:32 William Morder wrote: > I can't imagine that I am 100 years old, but I can imagine > that I am 60, and have already begun to feel the ravages of > time on my body.
It
> also
is
> a pain to use computer screens that are designed by and for > young
people.
One of the reasons I'm not using KDE4/Plasma is that there are no HiColor icons available there (AFAIK), just the wishy-washy pastel
ones
that imitate Windoze. Their contrast is so poor it's hard for me to
distinguish
one icon from another in many cases. As you say, today's desktops are designed for young people, by young people, and the limitations due to aging or other disabilities are not thought of, while they seem to be concentrating on eye-candy instead of functionality.
Leslie
Old people have less disposable income, so there's no reason to waste time designing systems for them to use when they can't afford them anyway. Also, old people tend to die sooner than young people, so it's a shrinking market.
Bill
Only fools count the marginalized out.
Kate AKA Konfucius
"... my super-dainty Kate - For dainties are all Kates -" (or thus quoth another bloke named William)
Bill
LOL you're alright mate, and a mighty poet. Me great grandmother always said the above to encourage me. I was a wee child (and adult now) so everyone always assumed I was incapable. They were wrong lol.
Most of the people I have using Linux are over the age of 60. About, hmm, 40 something people. Then about a dozen kids. It's because of the high numbers of pensioners that I'm trying to get qtcurve to use background images like the brushed metal of baghira. The background doesn't blend in with the colours, making it easier for them to see differences. I feel they are worth the effort, despite how much they've shrunk.
And Kate, since I'm in that "geriatric" profile at my soon to be 84 years, I certainly respect your efforts to drag the seniors into the computer litterate age, so a doff of my ever present semi-western hat to you seems well deserved indeed. My local senior center runs such a program, but its all on (spit up a big one) winders. Mention linux and get shushed.
But I was a nerd before the word was invented, so when computers became affordable, I was on-board, putting them to work at labor saving jobs fairly early. The first such project used a Quest Super Elf, with an RCA 1802 processor. It applied all the work needed to a just composed tv commercial to make them work with an automatic station break machine. And while I have long since gone down the road from that tv stations engineering staff, the last time I checked, 15 years later, it was still in use. Thats a couple of eons in tv station control room time.
But this is all off topice so I'll end it here.
BS. Its all in the "getting to know the neighbors" AFAIAC.
Back to business lads and lasses.
Cheers William of The Poets
Thats a + too.
Kate
I'm a relative late-comer to the Nerdom, and while I doubt that I will ever get elected King of the Nerds, I hope to make myself useful as their Merlin.
Bill
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