12 Mar
2019
12 Mar
'19
7:23 p.m.
I even tried to create a new ppd, using the print tool call by kpdf, but
at click on print, error instead.
This may indicate there is a filter problem, as ALL the color/density
info is stripped from the streams delivered to the printer, resulting in
extremely pale color output, as if every option in the ppd was
permanently set to -20.
This has been a problem since I bought this printer, a huge thing with an
adf scanner, capable of 11x17 tabloid output. Using the brother
supplied drivers, all they have ever said was to install their drivers,
which I have several times to zero effect.
If you folks can find and solve this problem, I'd be most appreciative.
I've removed the true filter, leaving enscript, but that also pops up
this error:
The MIME type application/postscript is not supported as input of the
filter chain (this may happen with non-CUPS spoolers when performing
page selection on a non-PostScript file). Do you want TDE to convert the
file to a supported format?
None of the other filter selections materially change this error message.
The file in question is rendered on screen perfectly in evince, okular gv
and kpdf. xpdf also works mostly. kpdf's properties claims its PDF-1.4.
Will the conversion wreck it?, I can download another copy from the card
vendors web site. My guess is yes since it does not show a pdf output
format in the selection list.
Help appreciated.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
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12 Mar
12 Mar
10:15 p.m.
Gene Heskett wrote:
If you folks can find and solve this problem, I'd
be most appreciative.
I've removed the true filter, leaving enscript, but that also pops up
this error:
The MIME type application/postscript is not supported as input of the
filter chain (this may happen with non-CUPS spoolers when performing
page selection on a non-PostScript file). Do you want TDE to convert the
file to a supported format?
None of the other filter selections materially change this error message.
I guess you have to look at the cups configuration. If the printer is
properly configured/supported in cups, it should work from kpdf without
issue.
And why it is saying non-CUPS spoolers?
If you don't mind share the model. I am not very knowledgable, but someone
else can help and probably the debian user will be more fruitful.
I stick to B/W HP laser and first I used 5L for 18y which I replaced last
year with another HP.
Most important to configure the cups server - use the cups UI. Find the
model or compatible one (ppd or whatever it is called in Brother).
Check the packages required and installed - might be you need the proper
filter package.
regards
13 Mar
13 Mar
3:01 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: kpdf fails, can't print, all "filters" defective
On Tuesday 12 March 2019 18:15:17 deloptes wrote:
Gene Heskett wrote:
Its an MFC-J6920DW
If you folks can find and solve this problem,
I'd be most
appreciative. I've removed the true filter, leaving enscript, but
that also pops up this error:
The MIME type application/postscript is not supported as input of
the filter chain (this may happen with non-CUPS spoolers when
performing page selection on a non-PostScript file). Do you want TDE
to convert the file to a supported format?
None of the other filter selections materially change this error
message.
I guess you have to look at the cups configuration. If the printer is
properly configured/supported in cups, it should work from kpdf
without issue.
And why it is saying non-CUPS spoolers?
If you don't mind share the model. I am not very knowledgable, but
someone else can help and probably the debian user will be more
fruitful.
I stick to B/W HP laser and first I used 5L for 18y
which I replaced
last year with another HP.
Most important to configure the cups server - use the cups UI. Find
the model or compatible one (ppd or whatever it is called in Brother).
Probably been to that rodeo a couple hundred times. It is not properly
configured in cups, doing extremely pastel output. Ink mileage is of
course fantastic since it doesn't use near enough.
Check the packages required and installed - might be
you need the
proper filter package.
I think that highly likely, but no one at cups can tell me what filter
might be missing, and I have installed everything cups related according
to synaptic.
regards
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7:36 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: kpdf fails, can't print, all "filters" defective
Anno domini 2019 Tue, 12 Mar 23:01:46 -0400
Gene Heskett scripsit:
On Tuesday 12 March 2019 18:15:17 deloptes wrote:
Hi Gene!
I have a MFC-J5320DW. I cannot configure the print quality from TDE, but I can from the
cups web frontend http://localhost:631
There are settings for "paper quality" that affect the print quality, you might
want to test all posible values. Also there is a setting for "draft" and
"ink saving" somewhere.
Nik
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Gene Heskett wrote:
Its an MFC-J6920DW
If you folks can find and solve this problem,
I'd be most
appreciative. I've removed the true filter, leaving enscript, but
that also pops up this error:
The MIME type application/postscript is not supported as input of
the filter chain (this may happen with non-CUPS spoolers when
performing page selection on a non-PostScript file). Do you want TDE
to convert the file to a supported format?
None of the other filter selections materially change this error
message.
I guess you have to look at the cups configuration. If the printer is
properly configured/supported in cups, it should work from kpdf
without issue.
And why it is saying non-CUPS spoolers?
If you don't mind share the model. I am not very knowledgable, but
someone else can help and probably the debian user will be more
fruitful.
I stick to B/W HP laser and first I used 5L for
18y which I replaced
last year with another HP.
Most important to configure the cups server - use the cups UI. Find
the model or compatible one (ppd or whatever it is called in Brother).
Probably been to that rodeo a couple hundred times. It is not properly
configured in cups, doing extremely pastel output. Ink mileage is of
course fantastic since it doesn't use near enough.
Check the packages required and installed - might
be you need the
proper filter package.
I think that highly likely, but no one at cups can tell me what filter
might be missing, and I have installed everything cups related according
to synaptic.
8:24 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: kpdf fails, can't print, all "filters" defective
On Wednesday 13 March 2019 03:36:10 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Anno domini 2019 Tue, 12 Mar 23:01:46 -0400
Gene Heskett scripsit:
BTDT Nik, even hand edited the ppd. Something in the filters category is
just plain striping 90% of the option stuff in the ppd. TDEPrint seems
to be aware of it, and refuses to even try, so does gv. evince and
okular play dumb and shove it down the pipe anyway, ignoreing the
spillage. What I really expect is for it to start working by the time I
download an official buster image.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
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"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
On Tuesday 12 March 2019 18:15:17 deloptes
wrote:
Hi Gene!
I have a MFC-J5320DW. I cannot configure the print quality from TDE,
but I can from the cups web frontend http://localhost:631
There are settings for "paper quality" that affect the print quality,
you might want to test all posible values. Also there is a setting for
"draft" and "ink saving" somewhere.
Nik Gene Heskett wrote:
Its an MFC-J6920DW
If you folks can find and solve this problem,
I'd be most
appreciative. I've removed the true filter, leaving enscript,
but that also pops up this error:
The MIME type application/postscript is not supported as input
of the filter chain (this may happen with non-CUPS spoolers when
performing page selection on a non-PostScript file). Do you want
TDE to convert the file to a supported format?
None of the other filter selections materially change this error
message.
I guess you have to look at the cups configuration. If the printer
is properly configured/supported in cups, it should work from kpdf
without issue.
And why it is saying non-CUPS spoolers?
If you don't mind share the model. I am not very knowledgable, but
someone else can help and probably the debian user will be more
fruitful. I stick to B/W HP laser and first I used 5L for
18y which I
replaced last year with another HP.
Most important to configure the cups server - use the cups UI.
Find the model or compatible one (ppd or whatever it is called in
Brother).
Probably been to that rodeo a couple hundred times. It is not
properly configured in cups, doing extremely pastel output. Ink
mileage is of course fantastic since it doesn't use near enough.
Check the packages required and installed - might
be you need the
proper filter package.
I think that highly likely, but no one at cups can tell me what
filter might be missing, and I have installed everything cups
related according to synaptic. 
1:44 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] CUPS : Re: kpdf fails, can't print, all "filters" defective
AFAIK the maintainer of CUPS is still proposing to remove filter, PPD, printer
driver, and raw queue support in 2020. Per him, "They" will pick up support
for these removed architectures.
https://github.com/apple/cups/issues/5271
Full Disclosure: I left the discussion as a waste of my time in mid 2018.
Best All,
Michael
7:11 p.m.
Gene Heskett wrote:
BTDT Nik, even hand edited the ppd. Something in the
filters category is
just plain striping 90% of the option stuff in the ppd. TDEPrint seems
to be aware of it, and refuses to even try, so does gv. evince and
okular play dumb and shove it down the pipe anyway, ignoreing the
spillage. What I really expect is for it to start working by the time I
download an official buster image.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Go one step back and read the specs of the printer - I see many Brother MFC
supported in cups (stretch). For example if your printer supports
Postscript, you can use any postscript driver or name it profile.
Manufacturers do not reinvent the wheel for each model, but rather provide
different features. So based on what your printer supports, I bet it will
be possible to use different model to get the functionality.
regards
12 Mar
12 Mar
10:54 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] kpdf fails, can't print, all "filters" defective
On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 15:23:40 -0400
Gene Heskett <gheskett(a)shentel.net> wrote:
This has been a problem since I bought this printer, a
huge thing with an
adf scanner, capable of 11x17 tabloid output. Using the brother
supplied drivers, all they have ever said was to install their drivers,
which I have several times to zero effect.
Brother's CUPS drivers are next to useless, because they never update them.
Trying creating a profile for it using the CUPS "Generic Postscript Printer"
driver
and see if that works any better (it did for me on a Brother MFC-9130CW). If I
recall correctly, you can have multiple CUPS profiles for the same physical printer,
and they'll be treated as different logical printers.
E. Liddell
13 Mar
13 Mar
12:02 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] kpdf fails, can't print, all "filters" defective
E. Liddell composed on 2019-03-12 18:54 (UTC-0400):
Brother's CUPS drivers are next to useless,
How do we know that? I've had my Brother HL5470DW (IP connected) more than 2 years. If
it's not
working right, how do I tell? The test pages YaST2 prints look normal. Other than online
purchase
invoices I print rarely. WRT printing, I don't remember installing anything other than
two rpms
downloaded from Brother's web site:
-rw-rw-r-- 1 18743 Jun 5 2012 hl5470dwcupswrapper-3.0.0-1.i386.rpm
-rw-rw-r-- 1 37106 Jun 5 2012 hl5470dwlpr-3.0.0-1.i386.rpm
printer setup:
http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Suse/broHL5470DW-qOpts423.jpg
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2:43 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] kpdf fails, can't print, all "filters" defective
On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 20:02:12 -0400
Felix Miata <mrmazda(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
E. Liddell composed on 2019-03-12 18:54 (UTC-0400):
The problems I had with the Brother driver for my own printer (before I switched to the
PostScript
driver) strongly suggested it had been created for an obsolete version of CUPS (1.7.X?)
and
then left to bit-rot. I could be wrong about the cause of the problems, and it's
possible that the
driver for your (completely different) printer hasn't yet had time to decay. The
driver I had was
likewise downloaded from Brother's website and came in the form of .rpm files.
Note that the printer *sort of* worked with the Brother driver, depending on what I tried
to
print and how, and I can't remember all the problems because it was more than a year
ago.
I do know that it couldn't print in landscape mode, because that was what pointed me
in the
direction of the CUPS version difference, and I *think* I remember it barfing with a
filter problem
in a different PDF viewer (possibly Adobe Acrobat, which I don't have on this computer
but
did on the old one).
E. Liddell (who just switched email providers because I was tired of GMail's
over-aggressive
spam protection. Hopefully this will work better.)
Brother's CUPS drivers are next to useless,
How do we know that? I've had my Brother HL5470DW (IP connected) more than 2 years.
If it's not
working right, how do I tell? The test pages YaST2 prints look normal. Other than online
purchase
invoices I print rarely. WRT printing, I don't remember installing anything other
than two rpms
downloaded from Brother's web site:
-rw-rw-r-- 1 18743 Jun 5 2012 hl5470dwcupswrapper-3.0.0-1.i386.rpm
-rw-rw-r-- 1 37106 Jun 5 2012 hl5470dwlpr-3.0.0-1.i386.rpm
printer setup:
http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Suse/broHL5470DW-qOpts423.jpg 
5:43 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] kpdf fails, can't print, all "filters" defective [GOES TO SPAM]
On Tue, 12 Mar 2019, E. Liddell wrote:
E. Liddell (who just switched email providers because
I was tired of GMail's over-aggressive
spam protection. Hopefully this will work better.)
your stuff (still) goes straight to spam.
however I am reading via gmail.
f.
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Schenectady, NY
9:17 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] kpdf fails, can't print, all "filters" defective [GOES TO SPAM]
On Wed, 13 Mar 2019 01:43:42 -0400 (EDT)
Felmon Davis <davisf(a)union.edu> wrote:
On Tue, 12 Mar 2019, E. Liddell wrote:
I'm mostly hoping that Fastmail won't discard *incoming* messages incorrectly,
which GMail has been doing to me for some time now. (One of those discarded
messages almost cost me >CAD$200, which pushed this out of the "annoying"
category and into "need to try to fix this ASAP".)
I could try using my backup-address-of-last-resort for listmail, I suppose, but
I have no way of telling whether it would be any better. Unfortunately, fixing
the listserv's DKIM handling isn't happening any time soon.
E. Liddell
E. Liddell (who just switched email providers
because I was tired of GMail's over-aggressive
spam protection. Hopefully this will work better.)
your stuff (still) goes straight to spam.
however I am reading via gmail.
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