Hello Michael,
With all things Nix, there's probably 20 different ways to do what you want.
First though, how do you want to access one machine form the other? Just files? Command prompt? Full screen access?
SSH will do files and command prompts, these should give you the .basics and you should be able to search for the rest from there:
https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-use-linux-file-manager-to-connec... https://www.binarytides.com/ssh-dolphin-konqueror-kde/
For full screen access search on "How to Remote Control Linux From linux"
The first comment on security in this is is pretty useful if you're going that route: https://www.linux.com/learn/intro-to-linux/2017/11/how-set-easy-remote-deskt...
Best, Michael
Thank you for you reply ! First it seems that google isn't talking to me again. I had no Idea that you had replied to me until I went and looked on the web.
Initially just files ! You may recall a little while ago I asked whether anyone knew if HP Elite 8300 machines were OK for Linux. Well they are, I've just bought one. i7 8 core 3.4 GHz cpu, 10 GB ram, 500 Gb HDD, DVD rom, GB Ethernet card. On board graphics and sound. Amazingly Q4OS simply installed and works with no issues at all. Yes I had to format the HDD to get rid of Win10, but I didn't want windows anyway.
My old machine has four HDD, and nearly 2 Tb of data on them. So I thought rather than start buying cases for the HDD, I would just get the two machines to talk to each other, transfer any settings and carry on from there.
But I have no real Idea how to go about it, hence the question.
I'll go through the links that you have so kindly provided and see how I get on.
Thanks again.
Am Donnerstag, 8. November 2018 schrieb Baron:
Hello Michael,
With all things Nix, there's probably 20 different ways to do what you want.
First though, how do you want to access one machine form the other? Just files? Command prompt? Full screen access?
SSH will do files and command prompts, these should give you the .basics and you should be able to search for the rest from there:
https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-use-linux-file-manager-to-connec... https://www.binarytides.com/ssh-dolphin-konqueror-kde/
For full screen access search on "How to Remote Control Linux From linux"
The first comment on security in this is is pretty useful if you're going that route: https://www.linux.com/learn/intro-to-linux/2017/11/how-set-easy-remote-deskt...
Best, Michael
Thank you for you reply ! First it seems that google isn't talking to me again. I had no Idea that you had replied to me until I went and looked on the web.
Initially just files ! You may recall a little while ago I asked whether anyone knew if HP Elite 8300 machines were OK for Linux. Well they are, I've just bought one. i7 8 core 3.4 GHz cpu, 10 GB ram, 500 Gb HDD, DVD rom, GB Ethernet card. On board graphics and sound. Amazingly Q4OS simply installed and works with no issues at all. Yes I had to format the HDD to get rid of Win10, but I didn't want windows anyway.
My old machine has four HDD, and nearly 2 Tb of data on them. So I thought rather than start buying cases for the HDD, I would just get the two machines to talk to each other, transfer any settings and carry on from there.
But I have no real Idea how to go about it, hence the question.
I'll go through the links that you have so kindly provided and see how I get on.
Thanks again.
What about opening the machine and plugging in the drives one by one temporarily?
On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 21:05:24 +0100 "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" office@klepp.biz wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 8. November 2018 schrieb Baron:
My old machine has four HDD, and nearly 2 Tb of data on them. So I thought rather than start buying cases for the HDD, I would just get the two machines to talk to each other, transfer any settings and carry on from there.
But I have no real Idea how to go about it, hence the question.
What about opening the machine and plugging in the drives one by one temporarily?
Or, if you don't want to mess with the hardware, your best option for just file transfer is probably to mount the old drives to the new machine across the network, using NFS or (in a pinch) Samba/CIFS.
E. Liddell
Hi Nikolous,
On Thursday 08 November 2018 20:05:24 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 8. November 2018 schrieb Baron:
Hello Michael,
With all things Nix, there's probably 20 different ways to do what you want.
First though, how do you want to access one machine form the other? Just files? Command prompt? Full screen access?
SSH will do files and command prompts, these should give you the .basics and you should be able to search for the rest from there:
https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-use-linux-file-manag er-to-connect-to-an-sftp-server/ https://www.binarytides.com/ssh-dolphin-konqueror-kde/
For full screen access search on "How to Remote Control Linux From linux"
The first comment on security in this is is pretty useful if you're going that route: https://www.linux.com/learn/intro-to-linux/2017/11/how-set-easy- remote-desktop-access-linux
Best, Michael
Thank you for you reply ! First it seems that google isn't talking to me again. I had no Idea that you had replied to me until I went and looked on the web.
Initially just files ! You may recall a little while ago I asked whether anyone knew if HP Elite 8300 machines were OK for Linux. Well they are, I've just bought one. i7 8 core 3.4 GHz cpu, 10 GB ram, 500 Gb HDD, DVD rom, GB Ethernet card. On board graphics and sound. Amazingly Q4OS simply installed and works with no issues at all. Yes I had to format the HDD to get rid of Win10, but I didn't want windows anyway.
My old machine has four HDD, and nearly 2 Tb of data on them. So I thought rather than start buying cases for the HDD, I would just get the two machines to talk to each other, transfer any settings and carry on from there.
But I have no real Idea how to go about it, hence the question.
I'll go through the links that you have so kindly provided and see how I get on.
Thanks again.
What about opening the machine and plugging in the drives one by one temporarily?
I've done that many times in the past !
I actually have a IDE/SATA to USB adaptor that I've used to extract data from disc drives. I'm not into paying money for a attached storage unit either.
Thanks for the suggestion anyway :-)
On Thu, 8 Nov 2018, Baron wrote:
My old machine has four HDD, and nearly 2 Tb of data on them. So I thought rather than start buying cases for the HDD, I would just get the two machines to talk to each other, transfer any settings and carry on from there.
But I have no real Idea how to go about it, hence the question.
Look at sshfs for a simple solution.
Jonesy
On Thursday 08 of November 2018 21:23:25 Marvin Jones wrote:
On Thu, 8 Nov 2018, Baron wrote:
My old machine has four HDD, and nearly 2 Tb of data on them. So I thought rather than start buying cases for the HDD, I would just get the two machines to talk to each other, transfer any settings and carry on from there.
But I have no real Idea how to go about it, hence the question.
Look at sshfs for a simple solution.
Jonesy
For sshfs you can use in Konqueror url like fish://user@machine/
Cheers
Hi Guys,
On Thursday 08 November 2018 20:37:20 Slávek Banko wrote:
On Thursday 08 of November 2018 21:23:25 Marvin Jones wrote:
On Thu, 8 Nov 2018, Baron wrote:
My old machine has four HDD, and nearly 2 Tb of data on them. So I thought rather than start buying cases for the HDD, I would just get the two machines to talk to each other, transfer any settings and carry on from there.
But I have no real Idea how to go about it, hence the question.
Look at sshfs for a simple solution.
Jonesy
For sshfs you can use in Konqueror url like fish://user@machine/
Cheers
First a big thank you to you all for the pushes in the right direction. :-)
It seems that Q4OS Trinity only has the openssh-client installed, so it looks like I will have to install the server part myself. I assume that I will have to do this on both machines.
One question, is "machine" the machine name or its IP address, the one that the router assigns to the machine.
Thanks Guys.
Baron wrote:
First a big thank you to you all for the pushes in the right direction. :-)
It seems that Q4OS Trinity only has the openssh-client installed, so it looks like I will have to install the server part myself. I assume that I will have to do this on both machines.
you install the server on the machine you want to connect to
One question, is "machine" the machine name or its IP address, the one that the router assigns to the machine.
you can use either hostname or IP
regards
On Thursday 08 November 2018 04:15:56 pm deloptes wrote:
Baron wrote:
First a big thank you to you all for the pushes in the right direction. :-)
It seems that Q4OS Trinity only has the openssh-client installed, so it looks like I will have to install the server part myself. I assume that I will have to do this on both machines.
you install the server on the machine you want to connect to
One question, is "machine" the machine name or its IP address, the one that the router assigns to the machine.
you can use either hostname or IP
You will get a slight bit of stability using IP addresses. Especially if you manually assign the machines an IP outside the router's DHCP assignment range (.150-.200 usually works), just copy all the other info from a DHCP session. If that makes no sense go with hostnames :)
Best, Michael
Hi Guys,
On Thursday 08 November 2018 23:16:45 Michael wrote:
On Thursday 08 November 2018 04:15:56 pm deloptes wrote:
Baron wrote:
First a big thank you to you all for the pushes in the right direction. :-)
It seems that Q4OS Trinity only has the openssh-client installed, so it looks like I will have to install the server part myself. I assume that I will have to do this on both machines.
you install the server on the machine you want to connect to
One question, is "machine" the machine name or its IP address, the one that the router assigns to the machine.
you can use either hostname or IP
You will get a slight bit of stability using IP addresses. Especially if you manually assign the machines an IP outside the router's DHCP assignment range (.150-.200 usually works), just copy all the other info from a DHCP session. If that makes no sense go with hostnames :)
Best, Michael
Yes it makes perfect sense. At least it gets me where I want to go !
Thanks Guys. The help is very much appreciated.
On Friday 09 November 2018 03:46:55 am Baron wrote:
Hi Guys,
On Thursday 08 November 2018 23:16:45 Michael wrote:
On Thursday 08 November 2018 04:15:56 pm deloptes wrote:
Baron wrote:
First a big thank you to you all for the pushes in the right direction. :-)
It seems that Q4OS Trinity only has the openssh-client installed, so it looks like I will have to install the server part myself. I assume that I will have to do this on both machines.
you install the server on the machine you want to connect to
One question, is "machine" the machine name or its IP address, the one that the router assigns to the machine.
you can use either hostname or IP
You will get a slight bit of stability using IP addresses. Especially if you manually assign the machines an IP outside the router's DHCP assignment range (.150-.200 usually works), just copy all the other info from a DHCP session. If that makes no sense go with hostnames :)
Best, Michael
Yes it makes perfect sense. At least it gets me where I want to go !
Thanks Guys. The help is very much appreciated.
Welcome, also, if you don't already know, it much easier doing SSH stuff when you setup your "SSH login without password". There a bazilion guides on it, just search on that phrase, and if it doesn't work right off the bat, usually you swapped serverA for serverB when you did it ;)
Hi Guys,
Logging in as root in a terminal works, I can now get and put individual files, to and from each machine, which is great because it means I did something right. However it means that any file I transfer has to have its ownership and rights changed.
I cannot persuade Konqueror or any browser to talk to the other machine. Obviously I've missed something or not got open ssh configured properly.
Thanks Guys.
Baron wrote:
Hi Guys,
Logging in as root in a terminal works, I can now get and put individual files, to and from each machine, which is great because it means I did something right. However it means that any file I
I haven't read this thread, but don't you want sftp:// and shouldn't root ssh login be disabled?
On 10/11/2018 15:53, Dave Lers wrote:
Baron wrote:
Hi Guys,
Logging in as root in a terminal works, I can now get and put individual files, to and from each machine, which is great because it means I did something right. However it means that any file I
I haven't read this thread, but don't you want sftp:// and shouldn't root ssh login be disabled?
Why?
Michael Howard wrote:
On 10/11/2018 15:53, Dave Lers wrote:
Baron wrote:
Hi Guys,
Logging in as root in a terminal works, I can now get and put individual files, to and from each machine, which is great because it means I did something right. However it means that any file I
I haven't read this thread, but don't you want sftp:// and shouldn't root ssh login be disabled?
Why?
I cannot imagine why anyone would want to use a terminal/ssh to move files (unless its something like an rsync script). OP appears to be trying to move files using a browser (maybe I snipped too much). Konqueror supports sftp://(user@)IP/host (ssh ftp, packaged with ssh) addresses which makes it really easy to move files to/from other machines. Using the already suggested key pairs it's just like working with files on the local system.
I thought remote root logins were disabled by default, it's a standard security precaution (since I cannot $ su w/ sftp, I enable/limit root logins to key pairs on my remote server).
...I see that sshfs and using it in Konqueror via fish:// have been mentioned. I've never used them and see no point when Konqueror and sftp are already available.
On 10/11/2018 21:26, Dave Lers wrote:
Michael Howard wrote:
On 10/11/2018 15:53, Dave Lers wrote:
Baron wrote:
Hi Guys,
Logging in as root in a terminal works, I can now get and put individual files, to and from each machine, which is great because it means I did something right. However it means that any file I
I haven't read this thread, but don't you want sftp:// and shouldn't root ssh login be disabled?
Why?
I cannot imagine why anyone would want to use a terminal/ssh to move files
I can't think of a quicker simpler way for moving files in certain situations. scp of course, not ssh, but that's pedantic.
(unless its something like an rsync script). OP appears to be trying to move files using a browser (maybe I snipped too much).
But then it's not a terminal session?
Konqueror supports sftp://(user@)IP/host (ssh ftp, packaged with ssh) addresses which makes it really easy to move files to/from other machines. Using the already suggested key pairs it's just like working with files on the local system.
I thought remote root logins were disabled by default
Over zealous, cotton wool bearing, self appointed guardians of the OS :)
, it's a standard security precaution (since I cannot $ su w/ sftp, I enable/limit root logins to key pairs on my remote server).
So even you permit root login. Hang on ....
...I see that sshfs and using it in Konqueror via fish:// have been mentioned. I've never used them and see no point when Konqueror and sftp are already available.
The mind boggles.
Hi Dave,
On Saturday 10 November 2018 21:26:56 Dave Lers wrote:
Michael Howard wrote:
On 10/11/2018 15:53, Dave Lers wrote:
Baron wrote:
Hi Guys,
Logging in as root in a terminal works, I can now get and put individual files, to and from each machine, which is great because it means I did something right. However it means that any file I
I haven't read this thread, but don't you want sftp:// and shouldn't root ssh login be disabled?
Why?
I cannot imagine why anyone would want to use a terminal/ssh to move files (unless its something like an rsync script). OP appears to be trying to move files using a browser (maybe I snipped too much). Konqueror supports sftp://(user@)IP/host (ssh ftp, packaged with ssh) addresses which makes it really easy to move files to/from other machines. Using the already suggested key pairs it's just like working with files on the local system.
I thought remote root logins were disabled by default, it's a standard security precaution (since I cannot $ su w/ sftp, I enable/limit root logins to key pairs on my remote server).
...I see that sshfs and using it in Konqueror via fish:// have been mentioned. I've never used them and see no point when Konqueror and sftp are already available.
Thank you for your reply.
I understand your comments. However on both my machines running Q4OS and Trinity 14.05, Konqueror reports "malformed URL" for any of the strings I type in the address bar. As does Chrome and Firefox.
Using a terminal doesn't work unless I use a root one. To be able to drag n drop using a browser would be nice particularly if it didn't alter permissions on the way.
I wish it was as easy as you say it should be :-)
On Saturday 10 November 2018 04:03:25 pm Baron wrote:
I understand your comments. However on both my machines running Q4OS and Trinity 14.05, Konqueror reports "malformed URL" for any of the strings I type in the address bar. As does Chrome and Firefox.
Using a terminal doesn't work unless I use a root one. To be able to drag n drop using a browser would be nice particularly if it didn't alter permissions on the way.
I wish it was as easy as you say it should be :-)
Hey Baron,
If all you've got is a shell, and you have space on the new drive, do a full rsync of the old drive to a directory on the new drive. Then you can use a file browser to move stuff around as you want.
Best, Michael
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