8 Nov
2018
8 Nov
'18
8:01 p.m.
Hello Michael,
With all things Nix, there's probably 20 different
ways to do what
you want.
First though, how do you want to access one machine
form the other?
Just files? Command prompt? Full screen access?
SSH will do files and command prompts, these should
give you
the .basics and you should be able to search for the rest from
there:
https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-use-linux-file-manager-to-conne…
https://www.binarytides.com/ssh-dolphin-konqueror-kde/
For full screen access search on "How to Remote
Control Linux From
linux"
The first comment on security in this is is pretty
useful if you're
going that route:
https://www.linux.com/learn/intro-to-linux/2017/11/how-set-easy-remote-desk…
Best,
Michael
Thank you for you reply !
First it seems that google isn't talking to me again.
I had no Idea that you had replied to me until I went and looked on
the web.
Initially just files !
You may recall a little while ago I asked whether anyone knew if HP
Elite 8300 machines were OK for Linux. Well they are, I've just
bought one. i7 8 core 3.4 GHz cpu, 10 GB ram, 500 Gb HDD, DVD rom,
GB Ethernet card. On board graphics and sound.
Amazingly Q4OS simply installed and works with no issues at all. Yes
I had to format the HDD to get rid of Win10, but I didn't want
windows anyway.
My old machine has four HDD, and nearly 2 Tb of data on them. So I
thought rather than start buying cases for the HDD, I would just get
the two machines to talk to each other, transfer any settings and
carry on from there.
But I have no real Idea how to go about it, hence the question.
I'll go through the links that you have so kindly provided and see how
I get on.
Thanks again.
--
Best Regards:
Baron
8 Nov
8 Nov
8:05 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Communications
Am Donnerstag, 8. November 2018 schrieb Baron:
Hello Michael,
What about opening the machine and plugging in the drives one by one temporarily?
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Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA,
CIA ...
With all things Nix, there's probably 20
different ways to do what
you want.
First though, how do you want to access one
machine form the other?
Just files? Command prompt? Full screen access?
SSH will do files and command prompts, these
should give you
the .basics and you should be able to search for the rest from
there:
https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-use-linux-file-manager-to-conne…
https://www.binarytides.com/ssh-dolphin-konqueror-kde/
For full screen access search on "How to
Remote Control Linux From
linux"
The first comment on security in this is is pretty
useful if you're
going that route:
https://www.linux.com/learn/intro-to-linux/2017/11/how-set-easy-remote-desk…
Best,
Michael
Thank you for you reply !
First it seems that google isn't talking to me again.
I had no Idea that you had replied to me until I went and looked on
the web.
Initially just files !
You may recall a little while ago I asked whether anyone knew if HP
Elite 8300 machines were OK for Linux. Well they are, I've just
bought one. i7 8 core 3.4 GHz cpu, 10 GB ram, 500 Gb HDD, DVD rom,
GB Ethernet card. On board graphics and sound.
Amazingly Q4OS simply installed and works with no issues at all. Yes
I had to format the HDD to get rid of Win10, but I didn't want
windows anyway.
My old machine has four HDD, and nearly 2 Tb of data on them. So I
thought rather than start buying cases for the HDD, I would just get
the two machines to talk to each other, transfer any settings and
carry on from there.
But I have no real Idea how to go about it, hence the question.
I'll go through the links that you have so kindly provided and see how
I get on.
Thanks again.
8:48 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Communications
On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 21:05:24 +0100
"Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" <office(a)klepp.biz> wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 8. November 2018 schrieb Baron:
Or, if you don't want to mess with the hardware, your best option for just
file
transfer is probably to mount the old drives to the new machine across the
network, using NFS or (in a pinch) Samba/CIFS.
E. Liddell
My old machine has four HDD, and nearly 2 Tb of
data on them. So I
thought rather than start buying cases for the HDD, I would just get
the two machines to talk to each other, transfer any settings and
carry on from there.
But I have no real Idea how to go about it, hence the question.
What about opening the machine and plugging in the drives one by one temporarily?
9 Nov
9 Nov
9:43 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Communications
Hi Nikolous,
On Thursday 08 November 2018 20:05:24 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 8. November 2018 schrieb Baron:
I've done that many times in the past !
I actually have a IDE/SATA to USB adaptor that I've used to extract
data from disc drives. I'm not into paying money for a attached
storage unit either.
Thanks for the suggestion anyway :-)
--
Best Regards:
Baron
Hello Michael,
What about opening the machine and plugging in the drives one by
one temporarily? With all things Nix, there's probably 20
different ways to do
what you want.
First though, how do you want to access one machine form the
other? Just files? Command prompt? Full screen access?
SSH will do files and command prompts, these should give you
the .basics and you should be able to search for the rest from
there:
https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-use-linux-file-manag
er-to-connect-to-an-sftp-server/
https://www.binarytides.com/ssh-dolphin-konqueror-kde/
For full screen access search on "How to Remote Control Linux
From linux"
The first comment on security in this is is pretty useful if
you're going that route:
https://www.linux.com/learn/intro-to-linux/2017/11/how-set-easy-
remote-desktop-access-linux
Best,
Michael
Thank you for you reply !
First it seems that google isn't talking to me again.
I had no Idea that you had replied to me until I went and looked
on the web.
Initially just files !
You may recall a little while ago I asked whether anyone knew if
HP Elite 8300 machines were OK for Linux. Well they are, I've
just bought one. i7 8 core 3.4 GHz cpu, 10 GB ram, 500 Gb HDD,
DVD rom, GB Ethernet card. On board graphics and sound.
Amazingly Q4OS simply installed and works with no issues at all.
Yes I had to format the HDD to get rid of Win10, but I didn't
want windows anyway.
My old machine has four HDD, and nearly 2 Tb of data on them. So
I thought rather than start buying cases for the HDD, I would
just get the two machines to talk to each other, transfer any
settings and carry on from there.
But I have no real Idea how to go about it, hence the question.
I'll go through the links that you have so kindly provided and
see how I get on.
Thanks again. 
8 Nov
8 Nov
8:23 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Communications
On Thu, 8 Nov 2018, Baron wrote:
My old machine has four HDD, and nearly 2 Tb of data on them. So I
thought rather than start buying cases for the HDD, I would just get
the two machines to talk to each other, transfer any settings and
carry on from there.
But I have no real Idea how to go about it, hence the question.
Look at sshfs for a simple solution.
Jonesy
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8:37 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Communications
On Thursday 08 of November 2018 21:23:25 Marvin Jones wrote:
On Thu, 8 Nov 2018, Baron wrote:
For sshfs you can use in Konqueror url like fish://user@machine/
Cheers
--
Slávek
My old machine has four HDD, and nearly 2 Tb of
data on them. So I
thought rather than start buying cases for the HDD, I would just get
the two machines to talk to each other, transfer any settings and
carry on from there.
But I have no real Idea how to go about it, hence the question.
Look at sshfs for a simple solution.
Jonesy
10:04 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Communications
Hi Guys,
On Thursday 08 November 2018 20:37:20 Slávek Banko wrote:
On Thursday 08 of November 2018 21:23:25 Marvin Jones
wrote:
First a big thank you to you all for the pushes in the right
direction. :-)
It seems that Q4OS Trinity only has the openssh-client installed, so
it looks like I will have to install the server part myself. I
assume that I will have to do this on both machines.
One question, is "machine" the machine name or its IP address, the one
that the router assigns to the machine.
Thanks Guys.
--
Best Regards:
Baron
On Thu, 8 Nov 2018, Baron wrote:
For sshfs you can use in Konqueror url like fish://user@machine/
Cheers My old machine has four HDD, and nearly 2 Tb of
data on them.
So I thought rather than start buying cases for the HDD, I
would just get the two machines to talk to each other, transfer
any settings and carry on from there.
But I have no real Idea how to go about it, hence the question.
Look at sshfs for a simple solution.
Jonesy 
10:15 p.m.
Baron wrote:
First a big thank you to you all for the pushes in the
right
direction. :-)
It seems that Q4OS Trinity only has the openssh-client installed, so
it looks like I will have to install the server part myself. I
assume that I will have to do this on both machines.
you install the server on the machine you want to connect to
One question, is "machine" the machine name
or its IP address, the one
that the router assigns to the machine.
you can use either hostname or IP
regards
11:16 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Communications
On Thursday 08 November 2018 04:15:56 pm deloptes wrote:
Baron wrote:
You will get a slight bit of stability using IP addresses. Especially if you
manually assign the machines an IP outside the router's DHCP assignment range
(.150-.200 usually works), just copy all the other info from a DHCP session.
If that makes no sense go with hostnames :)
Best,
Michael
First a big thank you to you all for the pushes
in the right
direction. :-)
It seems that Q4OS Trinity only has the openssh-client installed, so
it looks like I will have to install the server part myself. I
assume that I will have to do this on both machines.
you install the server on the machine you want to connect to
One question, is "machine" the machine
name or its IP address, the one
that the router assigns to the machine.
you can use either hostname or IP
9 Nov
9 Nov
9:46 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Communications
Hi Guys,
On Thursday 08 November 2018 23:16:45 Michael wrote:
On Thursday 08 November 2018 04:15:56 pm deloptes
wrote:
Yes it makes perfect sense. At least it gets me where I want to go !
Thanks Guys. The help is very much appreciated.
--
Best Regards:
Baron
Baron wrote:
You will get a slight bit of stability using IP addresses.
Especially if you manually assign the machines an IP outside the
router's DHCP assignment range (.150-.200 usually works), just copy
all the other info from a DHCP session. If that makes no sense go
with hostnames :)
Best,
Michael First a big thank you to you all for the pushes
in the right
direction. :-)
It seems that Q4OS Trinity only has the openssh-client
installed, so it looks like I will have to install the server
part myself. I assume that I will have to do this on both
machines.
you install the server on the machine you want to connect to
One question, is "machine" the machine
name or its IP address,
the one that the router assigns to the machine.
you can use either hostname or IP
6:22 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Communications
On Friday 09 November 2018 03:46:55 am Baron wrote:
Hi Guys,
On Thursday 08 November 2018 23:16:45 Michael wrote:
Welcome, also, if you don't already know, it much easier doing SSH stuff when
you setup your "SSH login without password". There a bazilion guides on it,
just search on that phrase, and if it doesn't work right off the bat, usually
you swapped serverA for serverB when you did it ;)
On Thursday 08 November 2018 04:15:56 pm deloptes
wrote:
Yes it makes perfect sense. At least it gets me where I want to go !
Thanks Guys. The help is very much appreciated. Baron wrote:
You will get a slight bit of stability using IP addresses.
Especially if you manually assign the machines an IP outside the
router's DHCP assignment range (.150-.200 usually works), just copy
all the other info from a DHCP session. If that makes no sense go
with hostnames :)
Best,
Michael First a big thank you to you all for the pushes
in the right
direction. :-)
It seems that Q4OS Trinity only has the openssh-client
installed, so it looks like I will have to install the server
part myself. I assume that I will have to do this on both
machines.
you install the server on the machine you want to connect to
One question, is "machine" the machine
name or its IP address,
the one that the router assigns to the machine.
you can use either hostname or IP
10 Nov
10 Nov
11:13 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Communications
Hi Guys,
Logging in as root in a terminal works, I can now get and put
individual files, to and from each machine, which is great because it
means I did something right. However it means that any file I
transfer has to have its ownership and rights changed.
I cannot persuade Konqueror or any browser to talk to the other
machine. Obviously I've missed something or not got open ssh
configured properly.
Thanks Guys.
--
Best Regards:
Baron
3:53 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Communications
Baron wrote:
Hi Guys,
Logging in as root in a terminal works, I can now get and put
individual files, to and from each machine, which is great because it
means I did something right. However it means that any file I
I haven't read this thread, but don't you want sftp:// and shouldn't
root ssh login be disabled?
4:05 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Communications
On 10/11/2018 15:53, Dave Lers wrote:
Baron wrote:
Why?
--
Mike Howard
Hi Guys,
Logging in as root in a terminal works, I can now get and put
individual files, to and from each machine, which is great because it
means I did something right. However it means that any file I
I haven't read
this thread, but don't you want sftp:// and shouldn't
root ssh login be disabled?
9:26 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Communications
Michael Howard wrote:
On 10/11/2018 15:53, Dave Lers wrote:
I cannot imagine why anyone would want to use a terminal/ssh to move
files (unless its something like an rsync script). OP appears to be
trying to move files using a browser (maybe I snipped too much).
Konqueror supports sftp://(user@)IP/host (ssh ftp, packaged with ssh)
addresses which makes it really easy to move files to/from other
machines. Using the already suggested key pairs it's just like working
with files on the local system.
I thought remote root logins were disabled by default, it's a standard
security precaution (since I cannot $ su w/ sftp, I enable/limit root
logins to key pairs on my remote server).
...I see that sshfs and using it in Konqueror via fish:// have been
mentioned. I've never used them and see no point when Konqueror and
sftp are already available.
Baron wrote:
Why? Hi Guys,
Logging in as root in a terminal works, I can now get and put
individual files, to and from each machine, which is great because
it
means I did something right. However it means that any file I
I haven't read
this thread, but don't you want sftp:// and shouldn't
root ssh login be disabled?
9:35 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Communications
On 10/11/2018 21:26, Dave Lers wrote:
Michael Howard wrote:
I can't think of a quicker simpler way for moving files in certain
situations. scp of course, not ssh, but that's pedantic.
On 10/11/2018 15:53, Dave Lers wrote:
I cannot imagine why anyone would want to use a terminal/ssh to move
files Baron wrote:
Why? Hi Guys,
Logging in as root in a terminal works, I can now get and put
individual files, to and from each machine, which is great because
it
means I did something right. However it means that any file I
I haven't read
this thread, but don't you want sftp:// and shouldn't
root ssh login be disabled?
(unless its something like an rsync script). OP
appears to be
trying to move files using a browser (maybe I snipped too much).
But then it's
not a terminal session?
Konqueror supports sftp://(user@)IP/host (ssh ftp,
packaged with ssh)
addresses which makes it really easy to move files to/from other
machines. Using the already suggested key pairs it's just like working
with files on the local system.
I thought remote root logins were disabled by default
Over zealous, cotton wool
bearing, self appointed guardians of the OS :)
, it's a standard
security precaution (since I cannot $ su w/ sftp, I enable/limit root
logins to key pairs on my remote server).
So even you permit root login. Hang on
....
...I see that sshfs and using it in Konqueror via
fish:// have been
mentioned. I've never used them and see no point when Konqueror and
sftp are already available.
The mind boggles.
--
Mike Howard
10:03 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Communications
Hi Dave,
On Saturday 10 November 2018 21:26:56 Dave Lers wrote:
Michael Howard wrote:
Thank you for your reply.
I understand your comments. However on both my machines running Q4OS
and Trinity 14.05, Konqueror reports "malformed URL" for any of the
strings I type in the address bar. As does Chrome and Firefox.
Using a terminal doesn't work unless I use a root one.
To be able to drag n drop using a browser would be nice particularly
if it didn't alter permissions on the way.
I wish it was as easy as you say it should be :-)
--
Best Regards:
Baron
On 10/11/2018 15:53, Dave Lers wrote:
I cannot imagine why anyone would want to use a terminal/ssh to
move files (unless its something like an rsync script). OP appears
to be trying to move files using a browser (maybe I snipped too
much). Konqueror supports sftp://(user@)IP/host (ssh ftp, packaged
with ssh) addresses which makes it really easy to move files
to/from other machines. Using the already suggested key pairs it's
just like working with files on the local system.
I thought remote root logins were disabled by default, it's a
standard security precaution (since I cannot $ su w/ sftp, I
enable/limit root logins to key pairs on my remote server).
...I see that sshfs and using it in Konqueror via fish:// have been
mentioned. I've never used them and see no point when Konqueror and
sftp are already available. Baron wrote:
Why? Hi Guys,
Logging in as root in a terminal works, I can now get and put
individual files, to and from each machine, which is great
because it
means I did something right. However it means that any file I
I haven't read this thread, but don't you want sftp:// and
shouldn't root ssh login be disabled?
12 Nov
12 Nov
2:40 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Communications
On Saturday 10 November 2018 04:03:25 pm Baron wrote:
I understand your comments. However on both my
machines running Q4OS
and Trinity 14.05, Konqueror reports "malformed URL" for any of the
strings I type in the address bar. As does Chrome and Firefox.
Using a terminal doesn't work unless I use a root one.
To be able to drag n drop using a browser would be nice particularly
if it didn't alter permissions on the way.
I wish it was as easy as you say it should be :-)
Hey Baron,
If all you've got is a shell, and you have space on the new drive, do a full
rsync of the old drive to a directory on the new drive. Then you can use a
file browser to move stuff around as you want.
Best,
Michael
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