Upgraded to 14.1.1 [Development] and now the system is pretty CRAP.
Can only have one 'Desktop', can't move any windows around the screen (but can use/interact with them in any other way). 'konsole' app looks weird (borderless).
Have moved old .trinity out of the way but no difference.
Anybody seen the likes before?
Cheers,
On Wednesday 20 September 2023 15.51:07 Michael Howard via tde-users wrote:
Upgraded to 14.1.1 [Development] and now the system is pretty CRAP.
Can only have one 'Desktop', can't move any windows around the screen (but can use/interact with them in any other way). 'konsole' app looks weird (borderless).
Have moved old .trinity out of the way but no difference.
Anybody seen the likes before?
No such problem here, everything seems to be working as expected. Which distribution are you using?
Thierry
On 20/09/2023 15:22, Thierry via tde-users wrote:
On Wednesday 20 September 2023 15.51:07 Michael Howard via tde-users wrote:
Upgraded to 14.1.1 [Development] and now the system is pretty CRAP.
Can only have one 'Desktop', can't move any windows around the screen (but can use/interact with them in any other way). 'konsole' app looks weird (borderless).
Have moved old .trinity out of the way but no difference.
Anybody seen the likes before?
No such problem here, everything seems to be working as expected. Which distribution are you using?
Devuan, daedalus. I've purged the complete TDE install and installed the current 'stable' version and all works as expected. Not at all ideal.
On Wednesday 20 September 2023 20.33:24 Michael Howard via tde-users wrote:
Devuan, daedalus. I've purged the complete TDE install and installed the current 'stable' version and all works as expected. Not at all ideal.
MX-Linux (21.3) here and until now each update went without problem, so maybe it's a Devuan issue? Is it nick that knows Devuan well?
Thierry
Anno domini 2023 Wed, 20 Sep 21:37:32 +0200 Thierry de Coulon via tde-users scripsit:
On Wednesday 20 September 2023 20.33:24 Michael Howard via tde-users wrote:
Devuan, daedalus. I've purged the complete TDE install and installed the current 'stable' version and all works as expected. Not at all ideal.
MX-Linux (21.3) here and until now each update went without problem, so maybe it's a Devuan issue? Is it nick that knows Devuan well?
Sounds like me :) .. and I managed to send from the wrong email, so my reply didn't make ist to the list.
I'm on devuan excalibur + TDE 14.2.X. 2 days ago there was an update that resulted twin to fail (no window decorations) and tsm not to load .xsessionrc. The issue was reolved some hour later after I did a new dist-upgrade - so yes, there was a hickup, but it's resolved already. If you were unfortunate enough to get it just make a dist-upgrade and ... reboot :)
Nik
Thierry ____________________________________________________ tde-users mailing list -- users@trinitydesktop.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@trinitydesktop.org Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@trinitydeskto...
-- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...
Can only have one 'Desktop', can't move any windows around the screen (but can use/interact with them in any other
way). 'konsole' app looks weird (borderless).
On 2023/09/21 05:45 AM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via tde-users wrote:
'm on devuan excalibur + TDE 14.2.X. 2 days ago there was an update that resulted twin to fail (no window decorations) and tsm not to load .xsessionrc.
That was on us developers. We did a small change and didn't realize it broke twin, not only on master branch but also on PSB. But as said, it was quickly resolved within 24 hours. What Michael described sounds exactly like that.
Cheers Michele
On Wednesday 20 September 2023 15:51:07 Michael Howard via tde-users wrote:
Upgraded to 14.1.1 [Development] and now the system is pretty CRAP. Can only have one 'Desktop', can't move any windows around the screen (but can use/interact with them in any other way). 'konsole' app looks weird (borderless). Have moved old .trinity out of the way but no difference. Anybody seen the likes before?
Yes : Maybe it doesn't come from Trinity, but an error during upgrade installation. One day, I had this kind of crap two times (Debian, Ubuntu). I had forgotten to stop an upgrade with cron, mixing two Ubuntu and Debian version systems, error irrecoverable. One solution, a complete re-installation. Good luck to repair.
On Wednesday 20 September 2023 14:18:51 ajh-valmer via tde-users wrote:
On Wednesday 20 September 2023 15:51:07 Michael Howard via tde-users wrote:
Upgraded to 14.1.1 [Development] and now the system is pretty CRAP. Can only have one 'Desktop', can't move any windows around the screen (but can use/interact with them in any other way). 'konsole' app looks weird (borderless). Have moved old .trinity out of the way but no difference. Anybody seen the likes before?
Yes : Maybe it doesn't come from Trinity, but an error during upgrade installation. One day, I had this kind of crap two times (Debian, Ubuntu). I had forgotten to stop an upgrade with cron, mixing two Ubuntu and Debian version systems, error irrecoverable. One solution, a complete re-installation. Good luck to repair.
Also running Devuan Daedalus here, and yes, I did hit more than the usual bumps along the way. Definitely not the relatively smooth upgrade experience to which I have become accustomed.
In my case, however, I was already noticing that some things weren't working like normal, and I've been impatient to upgrade, so I tried out one of their testing releases, only a week or two before the stable version was released. I have downloaded this stable version, and plan to give that a try over the next few days, hoping that any problems will be resolved.
In my own case, at least, for what it's worth, I would guess that it is an issue with Devuan, but I must wait to judge until after I have installed the official stable release.
Bill
P.S. Regarding these problems or issues themselves, they seem more like bugs that need to be chased down by somebody out there.
For example: * external hard drives are now very unpredictable; I don't know whether I can write to them or not, and I have taken to leaving them unmounted unless I am actually actively using them. * commands such as alt-tab have stopped working altogether (to switch displays from one application to another within the same window) * klipper, the TDE clipboard, now will not open a browser window (doesn't matter what browser) * my external keyboard won't work at all for many basic functions, though I can still use it to write (for instance, this email)
There are a slew of other similar issues; these are what I remember, just off the top of my head. Somehow, I believe, they are all of a piece; I didn't have any of these problems before, and I hadn't changed anything in my system, except for the upgrade itself, when these problems appeared.
Am Mittwoch, 20. September 2023 schrieb Michael Howard via tde-users:
Upgraded to 14.1.1 [Development] and now the system is pretty CRAP.
Can only have one 'Desktop', can't move any windows around the screen (but can use/interact with them in any other way). 'konsole' app looks weird (borderless).
Have moved old .trinity out of the way but no difference.
Anybody seen the likes before?
Hi Michael,
yes, I've seen this after an recent upgrade (couple of days ago or so). The next upgrade fixed it.
HTH Stefan
On 21/09/2023 09:14, Stefan Krusche via tde-users wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 20. September 2023 schrieb Michael Howard via tde-users:
Upgraded to 14.1.1 [Development] and now the system is pretty CRAP.
Can only have one 'Desktop', can't move any windows around the screen (but can use/interact with them in any other way). 'konsole' app looks weird (borderless).
Have moved old .trinity out of the way but no difference.
Anybody seen the likes before?
Hi Michael,
yes, I've seen this after an recent upgrade (couple of days ago or so). The next upgrade fixed it.
Thanks to everybody for the comments. At least I'm not alone ......
:-)
-
ajh-valmer -
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp -
kohli22a＠gmail.com -
Michael Howard -
Michele Calgaro -
Stefan Krusche -
Thierry -
Thierry de Coulon
-
William Morder