9 May
2020
9 May
'20
1:31 p.m.
folks,
I can't get back into the desktop, been having file system problems so
this is likely related but for now I just want back to the desktop
however fragile.
I get an error message after entering username and password:
"There was an error setting up inter-process comunication for TDE."
then:
"could not read network connection list
check dcopserver is running"
then if I press 'ok' I get:
"could not start tdeinit. Check your installation."
I have tried removing the .ICEauthority and other .dcop stuff from the
home directory.
the system is on Buster. I just did the latest upgrade several days
ago. (the file system problems started earlier; occasionally
'read-only' system so have to run fsck.)
ssd, kinda of aged.
grateful for tips.
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9 May
9 May
1:53 p.m.
On Sat May 9 2020 13:31:48 Felmon Davis wrote:
the system is on Buster. I just did the latest upgrade
several days
ago. (the file system problems started earlier; occasionally
'read-only' system so have to run fsck.)
ssd, kinda of aged.
I'd probably use a PERL or awk one-liner to generate a list
of installed packages and apt-get install --reinstall them
all.
If I couldn't just abandon the failing ssd apart from any
data that needed backing up.
--Mike
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2:11 p.m.
On Sat, 9 May 2020, Mike Bird wrote:
On Sat May 9 2020 13:31:48 Felmon Davis wrote:
you are speaking to the file system frailty, right?
I'm still wondering if there's a way to fix the tdeinit/dcopserver
problem (without reinstalling everything).
f.
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the system is on Buster. I just did the latest
upgrade several days
ago. (the file system problems started earlier; occasionally
'read-only' system so have to run fsck.)
ssd, kinda of aged.
I'd probably use a PERL or awk one-liner to generate a list
of installed packages and apt-get install --reinstall them
all.
If I couldn't just abandon the failing ssd apart from any
data that needed backing up.
--Mike
2:30 p.m.
On Sat May 9 2020 14:11:11 Felmon Davis wrote:
you are speaking to the file system frailty, right?
I'm still wondering if there's a way to fix the tdeinit/dcopserver
problem (without reinstalling everything).
There's a broken file system but we have no idea
what is broken.
I guess instead of reinstalling everything you could
run debsums first to see if anything is broken.
--Mike
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2:37 p.m.
On Sat, 9 May 2020, Mike Bird wrote:
On Sat May 9 2020 14:11:11 Felmon Davis wrote:
the file system is working now but it's fragile in the sense that I
now get the ready-only problem, say every few days.
if I can help it, I don't want to reinstall at the moment. and I don't
have a current enough system-backup. not to mention I'm thinking it
may be time for a new SSD.
but I'll reinstall if I can't find a more surgical fix.
f.
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you are speaking to the file system frailty,
right?
I'm still wondering if there's a way to fix the tdeinit/dcopserver
problem (without reinstalling everything).
There's a broken file system but we have no idea
what is broken.
I guess instead of reinstalling everything you could
run debsums first to see if anything is broken.
--Mike 
2:41 p.m.
On Saturday 09 May 2020 17:37:52 Felmon Davis wrote:
Cheers, Gene Heskett
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On Sat, 9 May 2020, Mike Bird wrote:
> On Sat May 9 2020 14:11:11 Felmon Davis wrote:
>> you are speaking to the file system frailty, right?
>>
>> I'm still wondering if there's a way to fix the tdeinit/dcopserver
>> problem (without reinstalling everything).
>
> There's a broken file system but we have no idea
> what is broken.
>
Are you perchance running that SSD on a usb adapter? I've found the
startech version the only one that Just Works.
I guess
instead of reinstalling everything you could
run debsums first to see if anything is broken.
--Mike
the file system is working now but it's fragile in the sense that I
now get the ready-only problem, say every few days.
if I can help it, I don't want to reinstall at the moment. and I don't
have a current enough system-backup. not to mention I'm thinking it
may be time for a new SSD.
but I'll reinstall if I can't find a more surgical fix.
f.
3:59 p.m.
On Sat, 9 May 2020, Gene Heskett wrote:
Cheers, Gene Heskett
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On Saturday 09 May 2020 17:37:52 Felmon Davis wrote:
no, it's an internal drive. don't recall the brand.
I wish I knew which bits to reinstall.
I've deleted stuff from /tmp.
I've removed .ICEauthory and anything dcop-ish in /home.
I did a dist-upgrade.
I have another user set up for TDE but same log-in problem (of
course).
I have xfce4 which I can log into with ease.
ah, important to note this is devuan.
oh, lookie here! I checked out my refind and there's a Kubuntu
install - totally forgot! no problem logging in.
the problem install is on /dev/sda3; the kubuntu on /dev/sda2.
again, I wish I knew what needs reinstalling just to be able to log
back in.
f.
On Sat, 9 May 2020, Mike Bird wrote:
> On Sat May 9 2020 14:11:11 Felmon Davis wrote:
>> you are speaking to the file system frailty, right?
>>
>> I'm still wondering if there's a way to fix the tdeinit/dcopserver
>> problem (without reinstalling everything).
>
> There's a broken file system but we have no idea
> what is broken.
>
Are you perchance running that SSD on a usb adapter? I've found the
startech version the only one that Just Works. I guess
instead of reinstalling everything you could
run debsums first to see if anything is broken.
--Mike
the file system is working now but it's fragile in the sense that I
now get the ready-only problem, say every few days.
if I can help it, I don't want to reinstall at the moment. and I don't
have a current enough system-backup. not to mention I'm thinking it
may be time for a new SSD.
but I'll reinstall if I can't find a more surgical fix.
f.
4:03 p.m.
On Sat May 9 2020 15:59:32 Felmon Davis wrote:
again, I wish I knew what needs reinstalling just to
be able to log
back in.
Did debsums find anything?
--Mike
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4:33 p.m.
On Sat, 9 May 2020, Mike Bird wrote:
On Sat May 9 2020 15:59:32 Felmon Davis wrote:
unfortunately a rather long list. I won't bore you with it but I don't
see anything that I know would account for the problem.
for instance, there's a load of aclocal and automake files, a couple
locale files I never invoke, inkscape and a couple of apps and font
files.
some trinity stuff though, librellinksplugin.so, kcm_history.so,
kded_konqy_preloader.so, libbfd-2.31.1-system.so
I can post it or dig in for any details.
f.
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again, I wish I knew what needs reinstalling just
to be able to log
back in.
Did debsums find anything?
--Mike
4:52 p.m.
On Sat May 9 2020 16:33:33 Felmon Davis wrote:
some trinity stuff though, librellinksplugin.so,
kcm_history.so,
kded_konqy_preloader.so, libbfd-2.31.1-system.so
You could try reinstalling just those debs but you need to
focus on getting your data off of this ssd and hoping it's
intact.
--Mike
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4:59 p.m.
On Sat, 9 May 2020, Mike Bird wrote:
On Sat May 9 2020 16:33:33 Felmon Davis wrote:
sorry, thought I had replied to the list.
I have a backup of my data so that's not an issue.
I'll try doing some reinstalls. the kded_ bit looks interesting.
f.
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some trinity stuff though, librellinksplugin.so,
kcm_history.so,
kded_konqy_preloader.so, libbfd-2.31.1-system.so
You could try reinstalling just those debs but you need to
focus on getting your data off of this ssd and hoping it's
intact.
--Mike
P.S. Please reply just to the list.
10 May
10 May
2:31 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] could not start tdeinit - still stuck
thanking Mike Bird for his advice!
I am still stuck. I mentioned I had another partition set up with an
old Kubuntu or something. I refurbished it and updated it to Buster,
no problems.
it would be nice however to reclaim my old space.
I'm wondering about the idea (a variant of something Mike suggested)
of doing some kind of install or re-install of the base system.
hopefully leaving most of the configuration files of installed
programs intact.
what's a clever way of doing this? not sure how to get a listing of
these things.
or simpler: reinstall tdelibs in order to reinstall tdeinit?
f.
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New subject: [trinity-users] could not start tdeinit - still stuck
On Sun May 10 2020 14:31:38 Felmon Davis wrote:
I'm wondering about the idea (a variant of
something Mike suggested)
of doing some kind of install or re-install of the base system.
hopefully leaving most of the configuration files of installed
programs intact.
what's a clever way of doing this? not sure how to get a listing of
these things.
apt-get install --dry-run --reinstall $(dpkg -l | grep '^ii' | awk '{print
$2}')
But I would not reinstall any more than necessary on a failing
drive/ssd and it could easily make things worse.
Replace it now. It's not worth your time to do anything else.
--Mike
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New subject: [trinity-users] could not start tdeinit - still stuck
On Sunday 10 May 2020 05:36:12 pm Mike Bird wrote:
Replace it now. It's not worth your time to do anything else.
Second that.
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New subject: [trinity-users] could not start tdeinit - still stuck
On Sun, 10 May 2020, Michael wrote:
On Sunday 10 May 2020 05:36:12 pm Mike Bird wrote:
ok.
I may experiment in the meantime but I got the message.
f.
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Replace it now. It's not worth your time to do anything else.
Second that.
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