Hi everyone.
I'm not too happy that neither Debian nor the Ubuntuzilla repository have made Thunderbird 91 (now on 91.0.3) available after almost a month since 91.0 was released. I obviously do not know what could be holding it up.
Does TDE's KMail offer persistent/cached (?) connections like Thunderbird does - with the app open/minimized if an e-mail comes in (IMAP accounts), it's automatically retrieved?
Thanks in advance.
On 5 September 2021 13:12:14 WEST, Edward epp@mcom.com wrote:
Hi everyone.
I'm not too happy that neither Debian nor the Ubuntuzilla repository have made Thunderbird 91 (now on 91.0.3) available after almost a month since 91.0 was released. I obviously do not know what could be holding it up.
Does TDE's KMail offer persistent/cached (?) connections like Thunderbird does - with the app open/minimized if an e-mail comes in (IMAP accounts), it's automatically retrieved?
Thanks in advance.
I can tell you that no AFAIK.
I wanted to make a question here too because I didn't see a configuration switch to even make automatic check every several minutes.
There are only options at startup or manually.
Echedey López Romero via tde-users wrote:
I can tell you that no AFAIK.
I wanted to make a question here too because I didn't see a configuration switch to even make automatic check every several minutes.
There are only options at startup or manually.
I'm using since many years kmail from within kontact and I can set up the polling interval (in minutes).
On 5 September 2021 13:56:39 WEST, deloptes emanoil.kotsev@deloptes.org wrote:
Echedey López Romero via tde-users wrote:
I can tell you that no AFAIK.
I wanted to make a question here too because I didn't see a configuration switch to even make automatic check every several minutes.
There are only options at startup or manually.
I'm using since many years kmail from within kontact and I can set up the polling interval (in minutes). ____________________________________________________ tde-users mailing list -- users@trinitydesktop.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@trinitydesktop.org Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@trinitydeskto...
Can you tell me where?
I don't find the option in the KMail settings.
On Sunday 05 September 2021 05:36:06 Echedey López Romero via tde-users wrote:
On 5 September 2021 13:12:14 WEST, Edward epp@mcom.com wrote:
Hi everyone.
I'm not too happy that neither Debian nor the Ubuntuzilla repository have made Thunderbird 91 (now on 91.0.3) available after almost a month since 91.0 was released. I obviously do not know what could be holding it up.
Does TDE's KMail offer persistent/cached (?) connections like Thunderbird does - with the app open/minimized if an e-mail comes in (IMAP accounts), it's automatically retrieved?
Thanks in advance.
I can tell you that no AFAIK.
I wanted to make a question here too because I didn't see a configuration switch to even make automatic check every several minutes.
There are only options at startup or manually.
In Kmail, when you configure each email account, there you can set "interval email checking" for whatever duration you choose.
Also, you might consider trying out kshowmail-trinity, which is a minimal app that does only a few things, but does them very well. You can set it for interval checking, delete emails from the server, etc. I forget if it works for imap, though.
When I used to get a lot more emails, I would use kshowmail for interval checking and deleting stuff from the server, then download the rest with Kmail. But now I have managed to make myself obscure and mostly forgotten enough that it doesn't matter, so I haven't kept up with the best or most recent tools. But between kmail and kshowmail, you ought to be covered.
Bill
On Sunday 05 September 2021 09:05:20 am William Morder via tde-users wrote:
On Sunday 05 September 2021 05:36:06 Echedey López Romero via tde-users
wrote:
On 5 September 2021 13:12:14 WEST, Edward epp@mcom.com wrote:
Hi everyone.
I'm not too happy that neither Debian nor the Ubuntuzilla repository have made Thunderbird 91 (now on 91.0.3) available after almost a month since 91.0 was released. I obviously do not know what could be holding it up.
Does TDE's KMail offer persistent/cached (?) connections like Thunderbird does - with the app open/minimized if an e-mail comes in (IMAP accounts), it's automatically retrieved?
Thanks in advance.
I can tell you that no AFAIK.
I wanted to make a question here too because I didn't see a configuration switch to even make automatic check every several minutes.
There are only options at startup or manually.
In Kmail, when you configure each email account, there you can set "interval email checking" for whatever duration you choose.
Also, you might consider trying out kshowmail-trinity, which is a minimal app that does only a few things, but does them very well. You can set it for interval checking, delete emails from the server, etc. I forget if it works for imap, though.
When I used to get a lot more emails, I would use kshowmail for interval checking and deleting stuff from the server, then download the rest with Kmail. But now I have managed to make myself obscure and mostly forgotten enough that it doesn't matter, so I haven't kept up with the best or most recent tools. But between kmail and kshowmail, you ought to be covered.
Bill ____________________________________________________
I do the exact same thing. IRC, kshowmail can be used with imap. It's a great server side filter. Been using it for years.
Kate
On 5 September 2021 14:05:20 WEST, William Morder via tde-users users@trinitydesktop.org wrote:
On Sunday 05 September 2021 05:36:06 Echedey López Romero via tde-users wrote:
On 5 September 2021 13:12:14 WEST, Edward epp@mcom.com wrote:
Hi everyone.
I'm not too happy that neither Debian nor the Ubuntuzilla repository have made Thunderbird 91 (now on 91.0.3) available after almost a month since 91.0 was released. I obviously do not know what could be holding it up.
Does TDE's KMail offer persistent/cached (?) connections like Thunderbird does - with the app open/minimized if an e-mail comes in (IMAP accounts), it's automatically retrieved?
Thanks in advance.
I can tell you that no AFAIK.
I wanted to make a question here too because I didn't see a configuration switch to even make automatic check every several minutes.
There are only options at startup or manually.
In Kmail, when you configure each email account, there you can set "interval email checking" for whatever duration you choose.
Also, you might consider trying out kshowmail-trinity, which is a minimal app that does only a few things, but does them very well. You can set it for interval checking, delete emails from the server, etc. I forget if it works for imap, though.
When I used to get a lot more emails, I would use kshowmail for interval checking and deleting stuff from the server, then download the rest with Kmail. But now I have managed to make myself obscure and mostly forgotten enough that it doesn't matter, so I haven't kept up with the best or most recent tools. But between kmail and kshowmail, you ought to be covered.
Bill ____________________________________________________ tde-users mailing list -- users@trinitydesktop.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@trinitydesktop.org Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@trinitydeskto...
Is this allowed If I edit such settings or only the first time.
Maybe I am just ignoring an obvious option but I don't find that in my account settings in KMail.
On 5 September 2021 14:28:44 WEST, "Echedey López Romero via tde-users" users@trinitydesktop.org wrote:
On 5 September 2021 14:05:20 WEST, William Morder via tde-users users@trinitydesktop.org wrote:
On Sunday 05 September 2021 05:36:06 Echedey López Romero via tde-users wrote:
On 5 September 2021 13:12:14 WEST, Edward epp@mcom.com wrote:
Hi everyone.
I'm not too happy that neither Debian nor the Ubuntuzilla repository have made Thunderbird 91 (now on 91.0.3) available after almost a month since 91.0 was released. I obviously do not know what could be holding it up.
Does TDE's KMail offer persistent/cached (?) connections like Thunderbird does - with the app open/minimized if an e-mail comes in (IMAP accounts), it's automatically retrieved?
Thanks in advance.
I can tell you that no AFAIK.
I wanted to make a question here too because I didn't see a configuration switch to even make automatic check every several minutes.
There are only options at startup or manually.
In Kmail, when you configure each email account, there you can set "interval email checking" for whatever duration you choose.
Also, you might consider trying out kshowmail-trinity, which is a minimal app that does only a few things, but does them very well. You can set it for interval checking, delete emails from the server, etc. I forget if it works for imap, though.
When I used to get a lot more emails, I would use kshowmail for interval checking and deleting stuff from the server, then download the rest with Kmail. But now I have managed to make myself obscure and mostly forgotten enough that it doesn't matter, so I haven't kept up with the best or most recent tools. But between kmail and kshowmail, you ought to be covered.
Bill ____________________________________________________ tde-users mailing list -- users@trinitydesktop.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@trinitydesktop.org Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@trinitydeskto...
Is this allowed If I edit such settings or only the first time.
Maybe I am just ignoring an obvious option but I don't find that in my account settings in KMail.
Okay, I found that was completely greyed.
This is why I didn't see it before inside my own account settings.
By default seems to be set to 5 minutes.
Thank you to everyone.
On Sunday 05 September 2021 06:30:21 Echedey López Romero via tde-users wrote:
On 5 September 2021 14:28:44 WEST, "Echedey López Romero via tde-users"
users@trinitydesktop.org wrote:
On 5 September 2021 14:05:20 WEST, William Morder via tde-users
users@trinitydesktop.org wrote:
On Sunday 05 September 2021 05:36:06 Echedey López Romero via tde-users
wrote:
On 5 September 2021 13:12:14 WEST, Edward epp@mcom.com wrote:
Hi everyone.
I'm not too happy that neither Debian nor the Ubuntuzilla repository have made Thunderbird 91 (now on 91.0.3) available after almost a month since 91.0 was released. I obviously do not know what could be holding it up.
Does TDE's KMail offer persistent/cached (?) connections like Thunderbird does - with the app open/minimized if an e-mail comes in (IMAP accounts), it's automatically retrieved?
Thanks in advance.
I can tell you that no AFAIK.
I wanted to make a question here too because I didn't see a configuration switch to even make automatic check every several minutes.
There are only options at startup or manually.
In Kmail, when you configure each email account, there you can set "interval email checking" for whatever duration you choose.
Also, you might consider trying out kshowmail-trinity, which is a minimal app that does only a few things, but does them very well. You can set it for interval checking, delete emails from the server, etc. I forget if it works for imap, though.
When I used to get a lot more emails, I would use kshowmail for interval checking and deleting stuff from the server, then download the rest with Kmail. But now I have managed to make myself obscure and mostly forgotten enough that it doesn't matter, so I haven't kept up with the best or most recent tools. But between kmail and kshowmail, you ought to be covered.
Bill ____________________________________________________ tde-users mailing list -- users@trinitydesktop.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@trinitydesktop.org Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@trinityde sktop.org
Is this allowed If I edit such settings or only the first time.
Maybe I am just ignoring an obvious option but I don't find that in my account settings in KMail.
Okay, I found that was completely greyed.
This is why I didn't see it before inside my own account settings.
By default seems to be set to 5 minutes.
Thank you to everyone.
Sorry, I was away from my machine. (Imagine that!)
Glad to see that you found it on your own; it does take a little digging to get there.
Remember to check out kshowmail (and I see that Kate agrees with me). It only does a few things, but it does them very well, and works well in tandem with Kmail.
Bill
On Sunday 05 September 2021 14.36:06 Echedey López Romero via tde-users wrote:
I wanted to make a question here too because I didn't see a configuration switch to even make automatic check every several minutes.
There are only options at startup or manually.
As others have said, this option is available as a per-address basis
Settings -> Configure kmal -> accounts -> modify -> enable interval checking
And there is a kicker applet to show you that you have new mail.
In my opinion kmail is largely better that thunderbird, but tht is a personal opinion,,,
Thierry
On Sunday 05 September 2021 08:36:06 Echedey López Romero via tde-users wrote:
On 5 September 2021 13:12:14 WEST, Edward epp@mcom.com wrote:
Hi everyone.
I'm not too happy that neither Debian nor the Ubuntuzilla repository have made Thunderbird 91 (now on 91.0.3) available after almost a month since 91.0 was released. I obviously do not know what could be holding it up.
Does TDE's KMail offer persistent/cached (?) connections like Thunderbird does - with the app open/minimized if an e-mail comes in (IMAP accounts), it's automatically retrieved?
Thanks in advance.
I can tell you that no AFAIK.
I wanted to make a question here too because I didn't see a configuration switch to even make automatic check every several minutes.
There are only options at startup or manually.
Thats not true, it can access your ISP's mail server. But it puts the command line to sleep (but doesn't miss what you type) while its doing it, so I automated that as a separate process with fetchmail which scans my ISP's server at 2 minute intervals. Which hands the mail delivery off to procmail, which in turned runs the incoming mail thru both spamassassin and clamav by way of custom recipes, depositing what survives that gauntlet into /var/spool/mail/$username, and inotifywait see's that and tells kmail by way of dbus, to go get the local mail and sort it into its proper directories. This only takes a few milliseconds per message. Much less annoying.
I in my dotage, at 86, am basically lazy. Let the computer do all that drudgery work. life is much simpler that way.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
said Gene Heskett: | On Sunday 05 September 2021 08:36:06 Echedey López Romero via tde-users | | wrote: | > On 5 September 2021 13:12:14 WEST, Edward epp@mcom.com wrote: | > >Hi everyone. | > > | > >I'm not too happy that neither Debian nor the Ubuntuzilla repository | > >have made Thunderbird 91 (now on 91.0.3) available after almost a | > > month since 91.0 was released. I obviously do not know what could be | > > holding it up. | > > | > >Does TDE's KMail offer persistent/cached (?) connections like | > >Thunderbird does - with the app open/minimized if an e-mail comes in | > >(IMAP accounts), it's automatically retrieved? | > > | > >Thanks in advance. | > | > I can tell you that no AFAIK. | > | > I wanted to make a question here too because I didn't see a | > configuration switch to even make automatic check every several | > minutes. | > | > There are only options at startup or manually. | | Thats not true, it can access your ISP's mail server. But it puts the | command line to sleep (but doesn't miss what you type) while its doing | it, so I automated that as a separate process with fetchmail which scans | my ISP's server at 2 minute intervals. Which hands the mail delivery off | to procmail, which in turned runs the incoming mail thru both | spamassassin and clamav by way of custom recipes, depositing what | survives that gauntlet into /var/spool/mail/$username, and inotifywait | see's that and tells kmail by way of dbus, to go get the local mail and | sort it into its proper directories. This only takes a few milliseconds | per message. Much less annoying.
I'll see you and raise you fifty: Though it's not officially supported, I've found that ProtonMail > ProtonMail Bridge > KMail work as close to perfectly as anything computer-tational ever does. I've been using KMail since KDE-1.0, so for 23 years now. (Switched from XFMail, which was as far as UI is concerned basically KMail built with a different toolkit, though I suppose it would be more accurate to put it the other way around, because XFMail came first.)
KMail worked as reliably and completely as a mail client can, with nothing upstream between me and the server, and still would here but for an announcement from the ISP three years ago that they would now be going through everyone's mail in search of anything they could sell. Thus ProtonMail, which keeps everything encrypted on the server even after download. It relies primarily on a webmail interface, though there are standalones that handle it a little better. The standard among these is ElectronMail.
But I prefer local mail storage, and that's why I was eager to beta test and now use ProtonMail Bridge. It is a biggish package -- ~65mb -- but it does a lot. When you do a mail fetch from ProtonMail, what you would get is utterly encrypted. The bridge decrypts the mail after it arrives at your computer, and encrypts whatever you send before it leaves the computer. On the client side, it has standard hooks that effectively let your mail client treat the bridge as the mail server.
On Linux it officially supports Thunderbird and that's that. But it can pretty easily be set up with KMail or just about any other client that can handle imap.
ProtonMail's spam filters are remarkably effective without an overabundance of false positives.
From time to time, usually when dabbling with KMail from KDE- >3.x, I've gotten exasperated and tried something else. And have invariably returned to TDE's KMail by the end of the day. I'm confident that there's no client that's better, and I don't think a better client is possible.
Which underline's your appraisal. KMail works with just about any configuration you can imagine. -- dep
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