On 06/11/2018 01:28 AM, Kate Draven wrote:
Hi people (and others)
I'm having a lot of trouble figuring out how to disable the auto mount function for usb hard drives.
Every time I connect a HD via a usb HD dock. It auto mounts the drive.
Is there anyway to stop this? I think it's udisksd or something. Google
was
useless regarding how to disable it.
I'm asking PCLinuxOS people but I expect I'll get an answer here faster.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Kate
Hi Kate, you can write your drive to /etc/fstab using noauto.
If you want to add it to fstab and need some help let us know the dev name or uuid, file system type and where you want to mount it, I use /home/jimmy/sdb1 or it could be /mount/sdb1 or /media/sdb1. Here's a example of how I handle sdb1 on this desktop.
'/dev/sdb1 /home/jimmy/01-SDB1 ext4 noauto,users,exec,relatime 0 0'
But what you're seeing seems to be a PC Linux OS thing and is not the behavior of devuan or debian. -- Jimmy Johnson
Devuan Jessie - KDE 4.14.2 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda5 Registered Linux User #380263
I agree, it is a pclos thing. They use udisks2. Which is notorious for automount problems. I can't uninstall it because trinity is dependant on it. I know how to edit the fstab, but would rather not. It's also not going to help because it's rarely the same drive twice. This becomes a problem when/because I'm working on client drive data recovery.
I appreciate the help though,
Thank you Jimmy
Kate
On 06/12/2018 06:09 PM, Kate Draven wrote:
On 06/11/2018 01:28 AM, Kate Draven wrote:
Hi people (and others)
I'm having a lot of trouble figuring out how to disable the auto mount function for usb hard drives.
Every time I connect a HD via a usb HD dock. It auto mounts the drive.
Is there anyway to stop this? I think it's udisksd or something. Google
was
useless regarding how to disable it.
I'm asking PCLinuxOS people but I expect I'll get an answer here faster.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Kate
Hi Kate, you can write your drive to /etc/fstab using noauto.
If you want to add it to fstab and need some help let us know the dev name or uuid, file system type and where you want to mount it, I use /home/jimmy/sdb1 or it could be /mount/sdb1 or /media/sdb1. Here's a example of how I handle sdb1 on this desktop.
'/dev/sdb1 /home/jimmy/01-SDB1 ext4 noauto,users,exec,relatime 0 0'
But what you're seeing seems to be a PC Linux OS thing and is not the behavior of devuan or debian. -- Jimmy Johnson
Devuan Jessie - KDE 4.14.2 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda5 Registered Linux User #380263
I agree, it is a pclos thing. They use udisks2. Which is notorious for automount problems. I can't uninstall it because trinity is dependant on it. I know how to edit the fstab, but would rather not. It's also not going to help because it's rarely the same drive twice. This becomes a problem when/because I'm working on client drive data recovery.
I appreciate the help though,
Thank you Jimmy
Kate
I've tested pclos a few times over the years, I wanted to love it, but always got bitten, for me it was hardware that was not supported and we could not fix it.
Here's one I've tested, it's a nice tight system with the Trinity Desktop, you can run it live and/or install and if you have the skills you can convert to a pure Trinity+Devuan system as none of the hocus pocus they've done is needed. https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=exe
It would be nice to see a Trinity+Devuan live .iso.
Cheers,
On 06/12/2018 07:54 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
On 06/12/2018 06:09 PM, Kate Draven wrote:
help because it's rarely the same drive twice. This becomes a problem when/because I'm working on client drive data recovery.
I appreciate the help though,
Thank you Jimmy
Kate
Kate I made my living working in the field or at a bench doing computer/network related repairs or installs, I took a laptop with me in the field that ran 'Puppy Linux', small and fast with all the tools a tech needs on a little live .iso. This was before systemd, but Puppy is still without systemd. https://distrowatch.com/?newsid=10053
Cheers,
Am Mittwoch, 13. Juni 2018 schrieb Kate Draven:
[...]
I agree, it is a pclos thing. They use udisks2. Which is notorious for automount problems. I can't uninstall it because trinity is dependant on it. I know how to edit the fstab, but would rather not. It's also not going to help because it's rarely the same drive twice. This becomes a problem when/because I'm working on client drive data recovery.
Hi!
You can install "pmount" and purge "udisks2". That's what I did, and it works (on devuan, that is).
Nik
On Wednesday 13 June 2018, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 13. Juni 2018 schrieb Kate Draven:
[...]
I agree, it is a pclos thing. They use udisks2. Which is notorious for automount problems. I can't uninstall it because trinity is dependant on it. I know how to edit the fstab, but would rather not. It's also not going to help because it's rarely the same drive twice. This becomes a problem when/because I'm working on client drive data recovery.
Hi!
You can install "pmount" and purge "udisks2". That's what I did, and it works (on devuan, that is).
Nik
You're thinking along the same lines as I was. I did have pmount installed but couldn't purge udisks2 as trinity seems to be dependant on it. I'm doing a clean install since I suspect I screwed up somewhere. User error is often the case.
I'll update once I've completed some experiments.
Kate
Am Mittwoch, 13. Juni 2018 schrieb Kate Draven:
On Wednesday 13 June 2018, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 13. Juni 2018 schrieb Kate Draven:
[...]
I agree, it is a pclos thing. They use udisks2. Which is notorious for automount problems. I can't uninstall it because trinity is dependant on it. I know how to edit the fstab, but would rather not. It's also not going to help because it's rarely the same drive twice. This becomes a problem when/because I'm working on client drive data recovery.
Hi!
You can install "pmount" and purge "udisks2". That's what I did, and it works (on devuan, that is).
Nik
You're thinking along the same lines as I was. I did have pmount installed but couldn't purge udisks2 as trinity seems to be dependant on it. I'm doing a clean install since I suspect I screwed up somewhere. User error is often the case.
I'll update once I've completed some experiments.
Kate
Hm ... if you have "aptitude", then please try "aptitude why udisks", that should give you a reason why udisks2 is kept.
$ aptitude why pmount i tdebase-trinity Hängt ab von tdebase-tdeio-plugins-trinity (>= 4:14.0.5~pre36-0debian9.0.0+6) i A tdebase-tdeio-plugins-trinity Empfiehlt udisks2 | udisks | pmount
TDE can live without udisks2 | udisks | pmount, just mounting/unmounting will not work.
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Ok so here's the update after the reinstall. Automounting is gone. I haven't checked yet if udisks2 is installed. I'm almost convinced it was something I did. We shall see after I install the rest of the packages.
Now, however, whenever I plug in a usb hd, it doesn't show up on the desktop. When I set it to show umounted hd vols, it also shows me root drive. Not good. In the previous bigdaddy iso, I could plug a usb hd and it would pop up on the desktop as would a USB drv.
Any suggestions as to what to look into?
Kate
Hey Doc, I'll see if I can uninstall udisks2 and the like before adding packages to see what calls it.
Am Donnerstag, 14. Juni 2018 schrieb Kate Draven:
Ok so here's the update after the reinstall. Automounting is gone. I haven't checked yet if udisks2 is installed. I'm almost convinced it was something I did. We shall see after I install the rest of the packages.
Now, however, whenever I plug in a usb hd, it doesn't show up on the desktop. When I set it to show umounted hd vols, it also shows me root drive. Not good. In the previous bigdaddy iso, I could plug a usb hd and it would pop up on the desktop as would a USB drv.
Any suggestions as to what to look into?
The same procedure as every year? ;-)
1) Disconnect the USB drive.
2) What is installed, udev/sytemd/logind/udisks/udisks2/polkit/pmount?
3) Open 4 terminals. In the first, run "dmesg -w" sa root. In the second, run "udevadm monitor". In the 3rd, run "watch cat /proc/partitions". In the 4th get root and poke around. And open "konqueror media:/".
4) Plug in the USB drive. What hppens? What's happening in terminals 1 to 3? Does it show up in /proc/partitions? udev generates events? Kernel logs something? If the device is silently ignored, run "partprobe". What happens?
5) Use some different USB device and try again.
Then we'll know a bit more.
Nik
Kate
Hey Doc, I'll see if I can uninstall udisks2 and the like before adding packages to see what calls it.
On 06/13/2018 04:17 PM, Kate Draven wrote:
Ok so here's the update after the reinstall. Automounting is gone. I haven't checked yet if udisks2 is installed. I'm almost convinced it was something I did. We shall see after I install the rest of the packages.
Now, however, whenever I plug in a usb hd, it doesn't show up on the desktop. When I set it to show umounted hd vols, it also shows me root drive. Not good. In the previous bigdaddy iso, I could plug a usb hd and it would pop up on the desktop as would a USB drv.
Any suggestions as to what to look into?
Kate
Hey Doc, I'll see if I can uninstall udisks2 and the like before adding packages to see what calls it.
It's been almost 7yrs since I built a .iso, I just ran the last one I built on both intel and amd and it ran best on the amd, even kweather updated :), but the drivers and firmware are old. So I set here with build instructions in front of me for rolling my own Devuan distro, I'm thinking Devuan Jessie+TDE-Trinity or TDE base+full firmware and drivers and hopefully it will run and install on any computer, ksnapshot will be added plus any suggested adds. I don't need this but maybe someone here could use it. Any takers? ;)
Cheers,
You are more than welcome to look through my pclos ISO for inspiration etc, and build your iso, I'm releasing a new one on Saturday, don't worry about any systemD as I don't use it either
Alie
On Thursday, 14 June 2018, 08:51:58 UTC, Jimmy Johnson field.engineer@gmail.com wrote:
On 06/13/2018 04:17 PM, Kate Draven wrote:
Ok so here's the update after the reinstall. Automounting is gone. I haven't checked yet if udisks2 is installed. I'm almost convinced it was something I did. We shall see after I install the rest of the packages.
Now, however, whenever I plug in a usb hd, it doesn't show up on the desktop. When I set it to show umounted hd vols, it also shows me root drive. Not good. In the previous bigdaddy iso, I could plug a usb hd and it would pop up on the desktop as would a USB drv.
Any suggestions as to what to look into?
Kate
Hey Doc, I'll see if I can uninstall udisks2 and the like before adding packages to see what calls it.
It's been almost 7yrs since I built a .iso, I just ran the last one I built on both intel and amd and it ran best on the amd, even kweather updated :), but the drivers and firmware are old. So I set here with build instructions in front of me for rolling my own Devuan distro, I'm thinking Devuan Jessie+TDE-Trinity or TDE base+full firmware and drivers and hopefully it will run and install on any computer, ksnapshot will be added plus any suggested adds. I don't need this but maybe someone here could use it. Any takers? ;)
Cheers,
On Thursday, 14 June 2018, 15:38:02 UTC, alistair izzard present_arms@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
You are more than welcome to look through my pclos ISO for inspiration etc, and build your iso, I'm releasing a new one on Saturday, don't worry about any systemD as I don't use it either
Alie
On Thursday, 14 June 2018, 08:51:58 UTC, Jimmy Johnson field.engineer@gmail.com wrote:
On 06/13/2018 04:17 PM, Kate Draven wrote:
Ok so here's the update after the reinstall. Automounting is gone. I haven't checked yet if udisks2 is installed. I'm almost convinced it was something I did. We shall see after I install the rest of the packages.
Now, however, whenever I plug in a usb hd, it doesn't show up on the desktop. When I set it to show umounted hd vols, it also shows me root drive. Not good. In the previous bigdaddy iso, I could plug a usb hd and it would pop up on the desktop as would a USB drv.
Any suggestions as to what to look into?
Kate
Hey Doc, I'll see if I can uninstall udisks2 and the like before adding packages to see what calls it.
It's been almost 7yrs since I built a .iso, I just ran the last one I built on both intel and amd and it ran best on the amd, even kweather updated :), but the drivers and firmware are old. So I set here with build instructions in front of me for rolling my own Devuan distro, I'm thinking Devuan Jessie+TDE-Trinity or TDE base+full firmware and drivers and hopefully it will run and install on any computer, ksnapshot will be added plus any suggested adds. I don't need this but maybe someone here could use it. Any takers? ;)
Cheers,
On 06/14/2018 08:36 AM, alistair izzard wrote:
You are more than welcome to look through my pclos ISO for inspiration etc, and build your iso, I'm releasing a new one on Saturday, don't worry about any systemD as I don't use it either
Alie
Do you have a link to the iso you're referring to?
Just so you know, I don't know what I'm doing at this time, right now I'm just poking a lot of things. I took a look at the devuan net-install iso and it looked like a blob, I think this new build your own live distro stuff that's being used is a blob. What I used before was remastersys and it retired and then un-retired and was at that gethub place but ran away because it's no friend of MS. So I will see if I can upgrade and update one of my own live-iso's that already has remastersys installed. Also I'm thinking about a devuan jessie net-install-iso that includes the trinity sources and maybe even a choice to install tde-trinity. Plus I just found out I have over 156GB of waisted wasted space in one folder I need to sort out, I'm a pack rat and these are all duplicate files(458 files in 256 groups).
Thanks,
Try the Refracta Linux tools they work pretty well with Debian.
On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 2:57 AM, Jimmy Johnson field.engineer@gmail.com wrote:
On 06/14/2018 08:36 AM, alistair izzard wrote:
You are more than welcome to look through my pclos ISO for inspiration etc, and build your iso, I'm releasing a new one on Saturday, don't worry about any systemD as I don't use it either
Alie
Do you have a link to the iso you're referring to?
Just so you know, I don't know what I'm doing at this time, right now I'm just poking a lot of things. I took a look at the devuan net-install iso and it looked like a blob, I think this new build your own live distro stuff that's being used is a blob. What I used before was remastersys and it retired and then un-retired and was at that gethub place but ran away because it's no friend of MS. So I will see if I can upgrade and update one of my own live-iso's that already has remastersys installed. Also I'm thinking about a devuan jessie net-install-iso that includes the trinity sources and maybe even a choice to install tde-trinity. Plus I just found out I have over 156GB of waisted wasted space in one folder I need to sort out, I'm a pack rat and these are all duplicate files(458 files in 256 groups).
Thanks,
Jimmy Johnson
Devuan Jessie - TDE Trinity R14.0.4 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda2 Registered Linux User #380263
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On 06/15/2018 04:28 AM, Pisini, John wrote:
Try the Refracta Linux tools they work pretty well with Debian.
Yes, I have thought of that too but have not poked it yet. I believe Refracta is used in rolling the Exe linux distro. If you have a helpful link that would be great.
Thanks,
On Thursday 14 June 2018 01:51:31 Jimmy Johnson wrote:
On 06/13/2018 04:17 PM, Kate Draven wrote:
Ok so here's the update after the reinstall. Automounting is gone. I haven't checked yet if udisks2 is installed. I'm almost convinced it was something I did. We shall see after I install the rest of the packages.
Now, however, whenever I plug in a usb hd, it doesn't show up on the desktop. When I set it to show umounted hd vols, it also shows me root drive. Not good. In the previous bigdaddy iso, I could plug a usb hd and it would pop up on the desktop as would a USB drv.
Any suggestions as to what to look into?
Kate
Hey Doc, I'll see if I can uninstall udisks2 and the like before adding packages to see what calls it.
It's been almost 7yrs since I built a .iso, I just ran the last one I built on both intel and amd and it ran best on the amd, even kweather updated :), but the drivers and firmware are old. So I set here with build instructions in front of me for rolling my own Devuan distro, I'm thinking Devuan Jessie+TDE-Trinity or TDE base+full firmware and drivers and hopefully it will run and install on any computer, ksnapshot will be added plus any suggested adds. I don't need this but maybe someone here could use it. Any takers? ;)
Cheers,
Yes, please. I am thinking of trying to create an iso from my installed system (if I can). I seem to remember something in Ubuntu/Kubuntu that did that very thing. (Was it called mondo?) But now I can't find it.
Once I've got my system running like I want - and I'm pretty much there now - I just want to keep it like that, and only upgrade.
Wasn't there a way to configure the old Debian to do automatic "rolling upgrades"? - using "stable" instead of "jessie", for example, in the sources.list? Or am I just dreaming?
Bill
On 06/17/2018 05:23 AM, William Morder wrote:
On Thursday 14 June 2018 01:51:31 Jimmy Johnson wrote:
On 06/13/2018 04:17 PM, Kate Draven wrote:
Ok so here's the update after the reinstall. Automounting is gone. I haven't checked yet if udisks2 is installed. I'm almost convinced it was something I did. We shall see after I install the rest of the packages.
Now, however, whenever I plug in a usb hd, it doesn't show up on the desktop. When I set it to show umounted hd vols, it also shows me root drive. Not good. In the previous bigdaddy iso, I could plug a usb hd and it would pop up on the desktop as would a USB drv.
Any suggestions as to what to look into?
Kate
Hey Doc, I'll see if I can uninstall udisks2 and the like before adding packages to see what calls it.
It's been almost 7yrs since I built a .iso, I just ran the last one I built on both intel and amd and it ran best on the amd, even kweather updated :), but the drivers and firmware are old. So I set here with build instructions in front of me for rolling my own Devuan distro, I'm thinking Devuan Jessie+TDE-Trinity or TDE base+full firmware and drivers and hopefully it will run and install on any computer, ksnapshot will be added plus any suggested adds. I don't need this but maybe someone here could use it. Any takers? ;)
Cheers,
Yes, please. I am thinking of trying to create an iso from my installed system (if I can). I seem to remember something in Ubuntu/Kubuntu that did that very thing. (Was it called mondo?) But now I can't find it.
Once I've got my system running like I want - and I'm pretty much there now - I just want to keep it like that, and only upgrade.
Wasn't there a way to configure the old Debian to do automatic "rolling upgrades"? - using "stable" instead of "jessie", for example, in the sources.list? Or am I just dreaming?
Bill
If you're looking at stable I suggest using "Exe Linux" built on Devuan Jessie and TDE for Jessie. It's what I recommend and what I use unless I'm doing a core/base install. https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=exe
As for Devuan ASCII it's still a work in progress and I suggest only for testing.
The Devuan mailing list is a good source for info if you are serious about saying no to systemd as I am. https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Cheers,
On Sunday 17 June 2018 21:55:07 Jimmy Johnson wrote:
On 06/17/2018 05:23 AM, William Morder wrote:
On Thursday 14 June 2018 01:51:31 Jimmy Johnson wrote:
On 06/13/2018 04:17 PM, Kate Draven wrote:
Ok so here's the update after the reinstall. Automounting is gone. I haven't checked yet if udisks2 is installed. I'm almost convinced it was something I did. We shall see after I install the rest of the packages.
Now, however, whenever I plug in a usb hd, it doesn't show up on the desktop. When I set it to show umounted hd vols, it also shows me root drive. Not good. In the previous bigdaddy iso, I could plug a usb hd and it would pop up on the desktop as would a USB drv.
Any suggestions as to what to look into?
Kate
Hey Doc, I'll see if I can uninstall udisks2 and the like before adding packages to see what calls it.
It's been almost 7yrs since I built a .iso, I just ran the last one I built on both intel and amd and it ran best on the amd, even kweather updated :), but the drivers and firmware are old. So I set here with build instructions in front of me for rolling my own Devuan distro, I'm thinking Devuan Jessie+TDE-Trinity or TDE base+full firmware and drivers and hopefully it will run and install on any computer, ksnapshot will be added plus any suggested adds. I don't need this but maybe someone here could use it. Any takers? ;)
Cheers,
Yes, please. I am thinking of trying to create an iso from my installed system (if I can). I seem to remember something in Ubuntu/Kubuntu that did that very thing. (Was it called mondo?) But now I can't find it.
Once I've got my system running like I want - and I'm pretty much there now - I just want to keep it like that, and only upgrade.
Wasn't there a way to configure the old Debian to do automatic "rolling upgrades"? - using "stable" instead of "jessie", for example, in the sources.list? Or am I just dreaming?
Bill
If you're looking at stable I suggest using "Exe Linux" built on Devuan Jessie and TDE for Jessie. It's what I recommend and what I use unless I'm doing a core/base install. https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=exe
As for Devuan ASCII it's still a work in progress and I suggest only for testing.
The Devuan mailing list is a good source for info if you are serious about saying no to systemd as I am. https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Cheers,
I tried Exe Linux (or was it ExeGnu Linux?). Anyway, it's how I stumbled on the Devuan project, so there is some connection. But I couldn't get that one to work properly for me. The installation shell *seemed* to work, but then when I tried to reboot, I ended up with nothing.
Anyway, I have got Devuan Jessie/Beowulf (I think?) running pretty well with TDE - already lots better than Debian Jessie with systemd! However, I still have a couple bugs, hopefully minor, which I will bring up in later threads.
Bill
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