16 Sep
2020
16 Sep
'20
7:46 a.m.
Hi
In the latest trinity kicker does not work, but freezes, I attach a
screen shot
Shall I switch to the nightly builds?
Regards
Uwe Brauer
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16 Sep
16 Sep
8:38 a.m.
On Wednesday 16 of September 2020 16:46:45 Uwe Brauer via tde-users wrote:
Hi
In the latest trinity kicker does not work, but freezes, I attach a
screen shot
Shall I switch to the nightly builds?
Regards
Uwe Brauer
Are you using a stable release - R14.0.8 or a PSB repository - R14.0.9~pre?
Some time ago, a commit was pushed, which solves an infinite loop when
rendering some special SVG files (icons). This is already part of PSB. If
you're using a stable release, you can try update to PSB to see if that
solves the problem you're having.
Cheers
--
Slávek
9:06 a.m.
>> "SBvt" == Slávek Banko via tde-users
<ml-migration-agent-AA1CGeSZfcB6iVtQByZ3Ah2eb7JE58TQ(a)public.gmane.org> writes:
On Wednesday 16 of September 2020 16:46:45 Uwe Brauer
via tde-users wrote:
> Hi
>
> In the latest trinity kicker does not work, but freezes, I attach a
> screen shot
>
> Shall I switch to the nightly builds?
>
> Regards
>
> Uwe Brauer
Are you using a stable release - R14.0.8 or a PSB
repository - R14.0.9~pre?
I am using the one recommended
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Ubuntu_Trinity_Repository_Installation_Inst…
in my understanding this is the stable release.
Some time ago, a commit was pushed, which solves an
infinite loop when
rendering some special SVG files (icons). This is already part of PSB. If
you're using a stable release, you can try update to PSB to see if that
solves the problem you're having.
Ok I do that, one question: would that also solve the hibernation
problem I reported a while ago?
9:16 a.m.
On Wednesday 16 of September 2020 18:06:09 Uwe Brauer via tde-users wrote:
I am using the one recommended
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Ubuntu_Trinity_Repository_Installation_I
nstructions#Setup_Ubuntu_Recommended_Updates_repository in my
understanding this is the stable release.
Yes, it's a stable release.
I assume that this may be due to user permissions at the dbus level. See:
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Release_Notes_For_R14.0.8#Removed_dbus_poli…
Cheers
--
Slávek
>>> "SBvt" == Slávek Banko via
tde-users
>>> <ml-migration-agent-AA1CGeSZfcB6iVtQByZ3Ah2eb7JE58TQ(a)public.gmane.or
>>>g> writes:
>
> On Wednesday 16 of September 2020 16:46:45 Uwe Brauer via tde-users
wrote:
Hi
In the latest trinity kicker does not work, but freezes, I attach a
screen shot
Shall I switch to the nightly builds?
Regards
Uwe Brauer
Are you using a stable release - R14.0.8 or a PSB repository -
R14.0.9~pre? Some time ago,
a commit was pushed, which solves an infinite loop when
rendering some special SVG files (icons). This is already part of PSB.
If you're using a stable release, you can try update to PSB to see if
that solves the problem you're having.
Ok I do that, one question: would that also solve the hibernation
problem I reported a while ago?
9:22 a.m.
>> "SBvt" == Slávek Banko via tde-users
<ml-migration-agent-AA1CGeSZfcB6iVtQByZ3Ah2eb7JE58TQ(a)public.gmane.org> writes:
On Wednesday 16 of September 2020 16:46:45 Uwe Brauer
via tde-users wrote:
> Hi
>
> In the latest trinity kicker does not work, but freezes, I attach a
> screen shot
>
> Shall I switch to the nightly builds?
>
> Regards
>
> Uwe Brauer
Are you using a stable release - R14.0.8 or a PSB
repository - R14.0.9~pre?
Very strange, I switched to
# Trinity preliminary stable builds
deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-sb focal deps-r14 main-r14
deb-src http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-sb focal deps-r14
main-r14
sudo apt-get install kubuntu-default-settings-trinity
kubuntu-desktop-trinity
kubuntu-default-settings-trinity is already the newest version
(4:14.0.8-0ubuntu20.04.0+0).
kubuntu-desktop-trinity is already the newest version
(4:14.0.8-0ubuntu20.04.0+0).
Shall I switch to the nightly builds, but I don't understand this behaviour
9:28 a.m.
On Wednesday 16 of September 2020 18:22:47 Uwe Brauer via tde-users wrote:
Very strange, I switched to
# Trinity preliminary stable builds
deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-sb focal
deps-r14 main-r14 deb-src
http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-sb focal
deps-r14 main-r14
sudo apt-get install kubuntu-default-settings-trinity
kubuntu-desktop-trinity
kubuntu-default-settings-trinity is already the newest version
(4:14.0.8-0ubuntu20.04.0+0).
kubuntu-desktop-trinity is already the newest version
(4:14.0.8-0ubuntu20.04.0+0).
Shall I switch to the nightly builds, but I don't understand this
behaviour
When you have added apt sources for PSB, you simply use "apt-get
dist-upgrade" to upgrade packages that are newer. Updating meta-packages
does not cause an overall update. At the same time, meta-packages
themselves usually contain a minimum of updates.
Cheers
--
Slávek
>>> "SBvt" == Slávek Banko via
tde-users
<ml-migration-agent-AA1CGeSZfcB6iVtQByZ3Ah2eb7JE58TQ(a)public.gmane.org>
writes:
> On Wednesday 16 of September 2020 16:46:45 Uwe
Brauer via tde-users
wrote:
Hi
In the latest trinity kicker does not work, but freezes, I attach
a screen shot
Shall I switch to the nightly builds?
Regards
Uwe Brauer
Are you using a stable release - R14.0.8 or a PSB repository -
R14.0.9~pre?
9:32 a.m.
On Wednesday 16 of September 2020 18:22:47 Uwe Brauer
via tde-users wrote:
<ml-migration-agent-AA1CGeSZfcB6iVtQByZ3Ah2eb7JE58TQ-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg(a)public.gmane.org>
writes:
wrote:
When you have added apt sources for PSB, you simply
use "apt-get
dist-upgrade" to upgrade packages that are newer. Updating meta-packages
does not cause an overall update. At the same time, meta-packages
themselves usually contain a minimum of updates.
Just a moment, wouldn't that upgrade from Ubuntu 20.04 to 21.04 (which I
want to avoid at all cost)
Should it
apt-get upgrade not dist-upgrade
9:36 a.m.
On Wednesday 16 of September 2020 18:22:47 Uwe Brauer
via tde-users wrote:
<ml-migration-agent-AA1CGeSZfcB6iVtQByZ3Ah2eb7JE58TQ-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg(a)public.gmane.org>
writes:
wrote:
When you have added apt sources for PSB, you simply
use "apt-get
dist-upgrade" to upgrade packages that are newer. Updating meta-packages
does not cause an overall update. At the same time, meta-packages
themselves usually contain a minimum of updates.
I run apt-get upgrade (not dist-upgrade)
And obtained
Fetched 139 MB in 21s (6.633 kB/s)
E: Failed to fetch
http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-sb/pool/main-r14/t…
Error reading from server. Remote end closed connection [IP: 37.205.10.16
80]
E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with
--fix-missing?
I tried fix-missing
But this is now the second time this happens, I am a bit worried
9:38 a.m.
New subject: [GUI for user administration] (was: kicker does not work)
On Wednesday 16 of September 2020 18:06:09 Uwe Brauer
via tde-users wrote:
wrote:
Yes, it's a stable release.
I assume that this may be due to user permissions at
the dbus level. See:
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Release_Notes_For_R14.0.8#Removed_dbus_poli…
Ok, thanks
BTW there seems now no graphical interface for administrating users
(adding shells, group etc) I can do that from the console, yes, but a
GUI is much more convenient. Any suggestions? Some time I used Kuser but
that is also gone.
9:48 a.m.
New subject: [GUI for user administration] (was: kicker does not work)
On Wednesday 16 of September 2020 18:38:31 Uwe Brauer via tde-users wrote:
The kuser-trinity package is still available in the repository. I've never
used it, so I have no idea if it's working properly.
Cheers
--
Slávek
On Wednesday
16 of September 2020 18:06:09 Uwe Brauer via tde-users
wrote: wrote:
Yes, it's a stable release.
I assume that this may be due to user permissions at the dbus
level. See:
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Release_Notes_For_R14.0.8#Removed_d
bus_policy_at_console
Ok, thanks
BTW there seems now no graphical interface for administrating users
(adding shells, group etc) I can do that from the console, yes, but a
GUI is much more convenient. Any suggestions? Some time I used Kuser but
that is also gone.
9:52 a.m.
New subject: [catastrophe] (was: kicker does not work)
>> "UB" == Uwe Brauer
<oub(a)mat.ucm.es> writes:
> On Wednesday 16 of September 2020 18:22:47 Uwe
Brauer via tde-users wrote:
>
<ml-migration-agent-AA1CGeSZfcB6iVtQByZ3Ah2eb7JE58TQ-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg(a)public.gmane.org>
> writes:
> wrote:
> When you have added apt sources for PSB, you
simply use "apt-get
> dist-upgrade" to upgrade packages that are newer. Updating meta-packages
> does not cause an overall update. At the same time, meta-packages
> themselves usually contain a minimum of updates.
I run apt-get upgrade (not dist-upgrade)
And obtained
Fetched 139 MB in 21s (6.633 kB/s)
E: Failed to fetch
http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-sb/pool/main-r14/t…
Error reading from server. Remote end closed connection [IP: 37.205.10.16
80]
E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with
--fix-missing?
I tried fix-missing
But this is now the second time this happens, I am a
bit worried
I rebooted, then trinity was gone, so I logged into the GNOME
environment
and run
sudo dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity
Upstart is not active - masking initctl
Adding 'local diversion of /sbin/initctl to /sbin/initctl.distrib'
tdm.service is a disabled or a static unit, not starting it.
Removing 'local diversion of /sbin/initctl to /sbin/initctl.distrib'
Now, I am really worried!!
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9:54 a.m.
On Wednesday 16 of September 2020 18:32:34 Uwe Brauer via tde-users wrote:
As I have mentioned many times, using "dist-upgrade" does not mean that it
will spontaneously upgrade to a newer version of the distribution. It
always depends on what distribution name you have written in apt sources
lists. If you do not change the distribution name in the apt sources list
yourself, the new version of the distribution will not be installed.
Using "dist-upgrade" means that new packages (such as new dependencies) can
be installed during the update. While using "update" makes it impossible
to update packages that require the installation of new dependencies.
So yes, I really meant "dist-upgrade" :)
Cheers
--
Slávek
On Wednesday
16 of September 2020 18:22:47 Uwe Brauer via tde-users
wrote:
<ml-migration-agent-AA1CGeSZfcB6iVtQByZ3Ah2eb7JE58TQ-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tM
h2IBg(a)public.gmane.org> writes:
wrote:
When you have added apt sources for PSB, you simply use "apt-get
dist-upgrade" to upgrade packages that are newer. Updating
meta-packages does not cause an overall update. At the same time,
meta-packages themselves usually contain a minimum of updates.
Just a moment, wouldn't that upgrade from Ubuntu 20.04 to 21.04 (which I
want to avoid at all cost)
Should it
apt-get upgrade not dist-upgrade
9:57 a.m.
New subject: [catastrophe] (was: kicker does not work)
On Wednesday 16 of September 2020 18:52:23 Uwe Brauer via tde-users wrote:
I run apt-get upgrade (not dist-upgrade)
And obtained
Fetched 139 MB in 21s (6.633 kB/s)
E: Failed to fetch
http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-sb/pool/ma
in-r14/t/tdeutils-trinity/kregexpeditor-trinity_14.0.9~pre25-0ubuntu
20.04.0+3_amd64.deb Error reading from server. Remote end closed
connection [IP: 37.205.10.16 80]
E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try
with --fix-missing?
I tried fix-missing
But this is now the second time this happens, I am a bit worried
I rebooted, then trinity was gone, so I logged into the GNOME
environment
and run
sudo dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity
Upstart is not active - masking initctl
Adding 'local diversion of /sbin/initctl to /sbin/initctl.distrib'
tdm.service is a disabled or a static unit, not starting it.
Removing 'local diversion of /sbin/initctl to /sbin/initctl.distrib'
Now, I am really worried!!
When updating tdm-trinity package, there may happen that the "alternatives"
mechanism causes a switch to another logon manager. It is not yet clear to
us why this is happening. You use "dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity" to fix
the situation.
Cheers
--
Slávek
"UB"
== Uwe Brauer <oub(a)mat.ucm.es> writes:
On Wednesday 16 of September 2020
18:22:47 Uwe Brauer via
tde-users wrote:
<ml-migration-agent-AA1CGeSZfcB6iVtQByZ3Ah2eb7JE58TQ-XMD5yJDbdMReX
Y1tMh2IBg(a)public.gmane.org> writes:
wrote:
When you have added apt sources for PSB, you simply use "apt-get
dist-upgrade" to upgrade packages that are newer. Updating
meta-packages does not cause an overall update. At the same time,
meta-packages themselves usually contain a minimum of updates.
10:10 a.m.
New subject: [catastrophe] (was: kicker does not work)
On Wednesday 16 September 2020 09:57:06 Slávek Banko via tde-users wrote:
On Wednesday 16 of September 2020 18:52:23 Uwe Brauer
via tde-users wrote:
I rebooted, then trinity was gone, so I logged into the GNOME
environment
and run
sudo dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity
Upstart is not active - masking initctl
Adding 'local diversion of /sbin/initctl to /sbin/initctl.distrib'
tdm.service is a disabled or a static unit, not starting it.
Removing 'local diversion of /sbin/initctl to /sbin/initctl.distrib'
Now, I am really worried!!
When updating tdm-trinity package, there may happen that the "alternatives"
mechanism causes a switch to another logon manager. It is not yet clear to
us why this is happening. You use "dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity" to fix
the situation.
Cheers
Sometimes for me, desktop-base (or any other variants than
desktop-base-trinity) may also need to be manually removed using
dpkg --purge. I don't know if it applies here.
Then run dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity and maybe also dpkg-reconfigure
desktop-base-trinity.
Bill
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> "UB" == Uwe Brauer
<oub(a)mat.ucm.es> writes:
On Wednesday 16 of September 2020 18:22:47 Uwe Brauer via
tde-users wrote:
<ml-migration-agent-AA1CGeSZfcB6iVtQByZ3Ah2eb7JE58TQ-XMD5yJDbdMReX
Y1tMh2IBg(a)public.gmane.org> writes:
wrote:
When you have added apt sources for PSB, you simply use "apt-get
dist-upgrade" to upgrade packages that are newer. Updating
meta-packages does not cause an overall update. At the same time,
meta-packages themselves usually contain a minimum of updates.
I run apt-get upgrade (not dist-upgrade)
And obtained
Fetched 139 MB in 21s (6.633 kB/s)
E: Failed to fetch
http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-sb/pool/ma
in-r14/t/tdeutils-trinity/kregexpeditor-trinity_14.0.9~pre25-0ubuntu
20.04.0+3_amd64.deb Error reading from server. Remote end closed
connection [IP: 37.205.10.16 80]
E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try
with --fix-missing?
I tried fix-missing
But this is now the second time this happens, I am a bit worried 
10:39 a.m.
New subject: apt-get upgrade vs dist-upgrade
On Wednesday 16 September 2020 11:54:52 am Slávek Banko via tde-users wrote:
On Wednesday 16 of September 2020 18:32:34 Uwe Brauer
via tde-users wrote:
For me this has always been one of the most annoying parts of using Debian,
apt based, derivatives. The command literally says it’s going to do a
distribution upgrade. Users are justifiably not going to use it, period,
until some dev, that they have to trust implicitly like we do Slávek, beats
it into their heads that it is a completely and utterly misnamed command. *
Thanks Slávek for being patient with us.
Best Regards,
Michael
* I’m sure there’s some original reason for the naming architecture of this
command. Which does not change that from a user’s perspective the naming of
this command is really, really fubar.
Should it
apt-get upgrade not dist-upgrade
As I have mentioned many times, using "dist-upgrade" does not mean that it
will spontaneously upgrade to a newer version of the distribution. It
always depends on what distribution name you have written in apt sources
lists. If you do not change the distribution name in the apt sources list
yourself, the new version of the distribution will not be installed.
Using "dist-upgrade" means that new packages (such as new dependencies) can
be installed during the update. While using "update" makes it impossible
to update packages that require the installation of new dependencies.
So yes, I really meant "dist-upgrade" :)
10:49 a.m.
On Wednesday 16 of September 2020 18:32:34 Uwe Brauer
via tde-users wrote:
As I have mentioned many times, using
"dist-upgrade" does not mean that it
will spontaneously upgrade to a newer version of the distribution. It
always depends on what distribution name you have written in apt sources
lists. If you do not change the distribution name in the apt sources list
yourself, the new version of the distribution will not be installed.
Using "dist-upgrade" means that new packages
(such as new dependencies) can
be installed during the update. While using "update" makes it impossible
to update packages that require the installation of new dependencies.
So yes, I really meant "dist-upgrade" :)
Ok I will try this now, because
apt-get upgrade
Did upgrade some packages but still did not solve the kicker problem.
10:50 a.m.
New subject: [catastrophe]
On Wednesday 16 of September 2020 18:52:23 Uwe Brauer
via tde-users wrote:
When updating tdm-trinity package, there may happen
that the "alternatives"
mechanism causes a switch to another logon manager. It is not yet clear to
us why this is happening. You use "dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity" to fix
the situation.
I completely turned the machine off and rebooted, then trinity was back
again, alas with the kicker problem,
So I will try
apt-get dist-upgrade now.
11:01 a.m.
New subject: [dist-upgrade did not do anything new] (was: apt-get upgrade vs dist-upgrade)
On Wednesday 16 September 2020 11:54:52 am Slávek
Banko via tde-users wrote:
For me this has always been one of the most annoying
parts of using Debian,
apt based, derivatives. The command literally says it’s going to do a
distribution upgrade. Users are justifiably not going to use it, period,
until some dev, that they have to trust implicitly like we do Slávek, beats
it into their heads that it is a completely and utterly misnamed command. *
So I did
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
So
sudo apt-get upgrade
Already upgraded, hm I am puzzled
In any case much more important the kicker problem is still there and it
is *very serious* because I have to reboot the machine.
Anybody an idea? Shall I switch to night build, right now trinity is a
bit unusable. I could try to set up the icons manually but uff
11:13 a.m.
New subject: [dist-upgrade did not do anything new] (was: apt-get upgrade vs dist-upgrade)
On Wednesday 16 September 2020 01:01:47 pm Uwe Brauer via tde-users wrote:
alias ag='apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade'
Hi Uwe,
One last thought, did you do an
apt-get update
first? Slávek would have to explain why, but the alias I pasted above is what I've
been told to use.
Best,
Michael
On Wednesday
16 September 2020 11:54:52 am Slávek Banko via tde-users
wrote:
For me this has always been one of the most annoying parts of using
Debian, apt based, derivatives. The command literally says it’s going
to do a distribution upgrade. Users are justifiably not going to use
it, period, until some dev, that they have to trust implicitly like we
do Slávek, beats it into their heads that it is a completely and
utterly misnamed command. *
So I did
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
So
sudo apt-get upgrade
Already upgraded, hm I am puzzled
In any case much more important the kicker problem is still there and it
is *very serious* because I have to reboot the machine.
Anybody an idea? Shall I switch to night build, right now trinity is a
bit unusable. I could try to set up the icons manually but uff
12:25 p.m.
On Wednesday 16 of September 2020 18:32:34 Uwe Brauer
via tde-users wrote:
It seems that I have the latest pre-release version installed
Sudo dpkg -l | grep trinity
Gives me
ii tde-style-qtcurve-trinity 4:14.0.9~pre23-0ubuntu20.04.0+0
amd64 This is a set of widget styles for Trinity based apps
ii tde-systemsettings-trinity 4:14.0.9~pre24-0ubuntu20.04.0+1
amd64 easy to use control centre for TDE
ii tdeadmin-tdefile-plugins-trinity 4:14.0.9~pre23-0ubuntu20.04.0+1
amd64 Trinity file metainfo plugins for deb and rpm files
ii tdebase-data-trinity 4:14.0.9~pre65-0ubuntu20.04.0+4
all shared data files for the TDE base module
ii tdebase-runtime-data-common-trinity 4:14.0.9~pre65-0ubuntu20.04.0+4
all Shared common files for Trinity and KDE4
Etc etc
However the kicker problem still persists. So I can't generate or change
icons, that is really quite bad. Shall I try out
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Testing_Builds
?
Once I do that I cannot go back, I am asking in case the preliminary are
buggier.
Thanks
Regards
Uwe Brauer
1 p.m.
New subject: [Hibernate problems] (was: kicker does not work)
On Wednesday 16 of September 2020 18:06:09 Uwe Brauer
via tde-users wrote:
wrote:
Yes, it's a stable release.
I assume that this may be due to user permissions at
the dbus level. See:
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Release_Notes_For_R14.0.8#Removed_dbus_poli…
I followed the advice, however the user is in the group plugdev.
Note: If a policykit is installed but a policykit agent is not
available, it does not work well. In this case, it is advisable to
uninstall policykit to allow the use of dbus rules.
If I try to uninstall policykit, then the netmanager and other important
stuff including trinity itself will be de installed. So it seems I am trapped.
1:24 p.m.
New subject: [SOLVED] (was: [Hibernate problems])
>> "UB" == Uwe Brauer
<oub(a)mat.ucm.es> writes:
> On Wednesday 16 of September 2020 18:06:09 Uwe
Brauer via tde-users wrote:
> wrote:
> Yes, it's a stable release.
> I assume that this may be due to user permissions
at the dbus level. See:
>
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Release_Notes_For_R14.0.8#Removed_dbus_poli…
I followed the advice, however the user is in the
group plugdev.
Note: If a policykit is installed but a policykit
agent is not
available, it does not work well. In this case, it is advisable to
uninstall policykit to allow the use of dbus rules.
If I try to uninstall policykit, then the netmanager
and other important
stuff including trinity itself will be de installed. So it seems I am trapped.
When I uninstalled policykit-desktop-privileges
Rebooted the machine, trinity could hibernate great.
1. So I *only* have to fix the kicker problem
2. and find out why Control-Alt-delete does not start the logout
menu (but this is less serious.)
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1:40 p.m.
New subject: [SOLVED] (was: [Hibernate problems])
On Wednesday 16 September 2020 03:24:39 pm Uwe Brauer via tde-users wrote:
2. and find out why Control-Alt-delete does not
start the logout
menu (but this is less serious.)
Check
Trinity Control Center >> Regional & Accessibility >> Keyboard Shortcuts
Shortcut Schemes, Current Scheme, Desktop, Log Out
If it's set correctly
- change something and Apply
=or=
Click Defaults
1:58 p.m.
New subject: [SOLVED]
>> "Mvt" == Michael via tde-users
<ml-migration-agent-AA1CGeSZfcB6iVtQByZ3Ah2eb7JE58TQ(a)public.gmane.org> writes:
On Wednesday 16 September 2020 03:24:39 pm Uwe Brauer
via tde-users wrote:
> 2. and find out why Control-Alt-delete does not start the logout
> menu (but this is less serious.)
Check
Trinity Control Center >> Regional &
Accessibility >> Keyboard Shortcuts
Shortcut Schemes, Current Scheme, Desktop, Log Out
If it's set correctly
Thanks after rebooting again, it worked, strange, tomorrow I will try to
solve the kicker problem.
Regards
Uwe Brauer
2:07 p.m.
New subject: apt-get upgrade vs dist-upgrade
On Wednesday 16 of September 2020 19:39:11 Michael via tde-users wrote:
For me this has always been one of the most annoying parts of using
Debian, apt based, derivatives. The command literally says it’s going
to do a distribution upgrade. Users are justifiably not going to use
it, period, until some dev, that they have to trust implicitly like we
do Slávek, beats it into their heads that it is a completely and utterly
misnamed command. *
Thanks Slávek for being patient with us.
Best Regards,
Michael
* I’m sure there’s some original reason for the naming architecture of
this command. Which does not change that from a user’s perspective the
naming of this command is really, really fubar.
____________________________________________________
If I remember correctly, for aptitude, "soft-upgrade" was added as the
equivalent for "upgrade" and "full-upgrade" was added as the
equivalent
for "dist-upgrade". Maybe the point was to make the meaning more apt.
Cheers
--
Slávek
On Wednesday 16 September 2020 11:54:52 am Slávek
Banko via tde-users
wrote:
> On Wednesday 16 of September 2020 18:32:34 Uwe
Brauer via tde-users
wrote:
Should it
apt-get upgrade not dist-upgrade
As I have mentioned many times, using "dist-upgrade" does not mean
that it will spontaneously upgrade to a newer version of the
distribution. It always depends on what distribution name you have
written in apt sources lists. If you do not change the distribution
name in the apt sources list yourself, the new version of the
distribution will not be installed.
Using "dist-upgrade" means that new packages (such as new
dependencies) can be installed during the update. While using "update"
makes it impossible to update packages that require the installation
of new dependencies.
So yes, I really meant "dist-upgrade" :)
2:27 p.m.
On Wednesday 16 of September 2020 21:25:57 Uwe Brauer via tde-users wrote:
There is probably no reason to test Preliminary Testing Builds here,
because there is no other patch in the master branch in the sense of this
problem. Therefore, I do not assume that this could help solve the
problem.
Here it is likely that it is caused by some icon. Can you try to move the
icons aside and gradually move them back to find the icon that is causing
this problem? There, it would be useful to get an icon so that the problem
can be investigated and solved.
Cheers
--
Slávek
On Wednesday
16 of September 2020 18:32:34 Uwe Brauer via tde-users
wrote:
It seems that I have the latest pre-release version installed
Sudo dpkg -l | grep trinity
Gives me
ii tde-style-qtcurve-trinity
4:14.0.9~pre23-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 This is a set of
widget styles for Trinity based apps ii tde-systemsettings-trinity
4:14.0.9~pre24-0ubuntu20.04.0+1 amd64 easy to
use control centre for TDE ii tdeadmin-tdefile-plugins-trinity
4:14.0.9~pre23-0ubuntu20.04.0+1 amd64 Trinity file
metainfo plugins for deb and rpm files ii tdebase-data-trinity
4:14.0.9~pre65-0ubuntu20.04.0+4 all
shared data files for the TDE base module ii
tdebase-runtime-data-common-trinity
4:14.0.9~pre65-0ubuntu20.04.0+4 all Shared common files
for Trinity and KDE4
Etc etc
However the kicker problem still persists. So I can't generate or change
icons, that is really quite bad. Shall I try out
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Testing_Builds
?
Once I do that I cannot go back, I am asking in case the preliminary are
buggier.
Thanks
Regards
Uwe Brauer
2:48 p.m.
The Problem is:
1 want to add an icon that is a link to an app. As soon as I want to select an image for
that icon the problem starts
2 I have already an existing is on vía add app to the docker. I want to changer the image
and the problem starts I could send a video if that is helpful
Sent from my iPhone
On 16. Sep 2020, at 23:30, Slávek Banko via tde-users
<ml-migration-agent(a)trinitydesktop.org> wrote:
On Wednesday 16 of September 2020 21:25:57 Uwe Brauer via tde-users wrote:
There is probably no reason to test Preliminary Testing Builds here,
because there is no other patch in the master branch in the sense of this
problem. Therefore, I do not assume that this could help solve the
problem.
Here it is likely that it is caused by some icon. Can you try to move the
icons aside and gradually move them back to find the icon that is causing
this problem? There, it would be useful to get an icon so that the problem
can be investigated and solved.
Cheers
--
Slávek
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Wednesday 16 of September 2020 18:32:34 Uwe Brauer via tde-users
wrote:
It seems that I have the latest pre-release version installed
Sudo dpkg -l | grep trinity
Gives me
ii tde-style-qtcurve-trinity
4:14.0.9~pre23-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 This is a set of
widget styles for Trinity based apps ii tde-systemsettings-trinity
4:14.0.9~pre24-0ubuntu20.04.0+1 amd64 easy to
use control centre for TDE ii tdeadmin-tdefile-plugins-trinity
4:14.0.9~pre23-0ubuntu20.04.0+1 amd64 Trinity file
metainfo plugins for deb and rpm files ii tdebase-data-trinity
4:14.0.9~pre65-0ubuntu20.04.0+4 all
shared data files for the TDE base module ii
tdebase-runtime-data-common-trinity
4:14.0.9~pre65-0ubuntu20.04.0+4 all Shared common files
for Trinity and KDE4
Etc etc
However the kicker problem still persists. So I can't generate or change
icons, that is really quite bad. Shall I try out
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Testing_Builds
?
Once I do that I cannot go back, I am asking in case the preliminary are
buggier.
Thanks
Regards
Uwe Brauer
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