I most likely cannot be around this Saturday so I'll list my observations here. There is a thread from last week where we tried to determine why two instances of WiCD are appearing in the system tray each time TDE is started. I tried moving /etc/xdg/autostart/wicd-tray.desktop out of the way and then no WiCD system tray instances were run. After moving it back TDE once again starts two instances. I did not observe this behavior in XFCE 4.8 which I was running previous to installing TDE. I was a bit stymied attempting tocustomize KDM from kControl. No matter what I tried, Debian More Orbit Blue was shown. I finally had to comment out the Theme line (as I recall) to allow my changes to be seen. If a default them is chosen, mention should probably be made in kcontrol that the system theme setting overrided changes made in kcontrol's KDM module. Desktop icons. I don't use too many but the few I have are set to be lined up vertically, directories first, and locked in place. Plugging in a flash drive results in its icon being placed in a new vertical row not exactly lined up with the existing icons. I would prefer it to be placed at the bottom of the existing icon list on the desktop. It seems as though that was the behavior up to 3.5.10, as I recall. I am using Xscreensaver rather than kscreensaver. There are some issues with screen locking that occur after lid close and resume from suspend. I have things configured so that the screen is locked on lid close and when I reopen the lid I get the Xscreensaver password dialog. I also have the screen set to be locked upon resume and then I first get a TDE password dialog followed immediately by the Xscreensaver password dialog! I use Xscreensaver only for the reason that its savers are more varied and it changes savers at a configurable interval. If Kscreensaver would change savers at a regular interval rather than at each saver start in Random mode, I could drop Xscreensaver. No real show stoppers here, just a few minor annoyances. :-) Overall, I give the project an A++ rating for keeping a great desktop environment moving forward. - Nate >> -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us