Hello all, I've been watching the conversations on your Trinity users lists with great interest, but haven't had much time to participate myself. (I am not really a lurker, just busy!) Over the past couple years I keep trying to upgrade my system, especially after the Ubuntu family released 12.04 LTS. I got TDE to run pretty well on top of Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Lubuntu, with varying degrees of success. It seems to run best on Lubuntu for some reason, perhaps because it is less cluttered with possibly conflicting software. When I get frustrated, I go back to go old Hardy Heron 8.04.2, which still runs best on my system; however, I am determined to stick with an up-to-date system, sooner or later, for obvious reasons. Hardy gets less and less functional with every passing day. But I like how it runs (or ran), with all my personal modifications. So I much appreciate all the hard work of the developers. I've read most of your discussions, trying to keep up with problems and fixes, and almost feel like I know some of you personally. Right now I'm running Trinity on top of Lubuntu 12.04 Precise, and it is stable and fast, and I've managed to fix a few problems myself, like windows that crash in Konqueror or Nautilus, etc. A couple things I really miss from my Hardy system, though: kshowmail and TorK. I like kshowmail, but any good email checker, which just shows headers, senders, etc. would be just as good. However, I have tried various biff-type programs, and they don't even seem to run. There are a couple others that look promising, but which either don't run at all, or at any rate don't run on Trinity. If somebody could create Trinity packages for kshowmail and TorK, I would be glad to give up my left arm, as I don't use it much anyway. TorK is the one that I really miss. Vidalia just doesn't cut it for me, and TorK had some special features that I miss. I looked through the packages and dependencies, and it seems like most or all of the dependencies are already part of Trinity. By the way, I did do a little research into alternative solutions. I tried enabling Maverick repositories, as suggested on one site, but it doesn't work. I tried downloading archived packages from various sources, then installing with gdebi-kde, etc.; that sometimes appears to work, but when I run TorK, nothing happens. I tried converting Slackware packages to .deb files using alien, but these also do not actually install. I tried compiling from source, and again, it seems to work, but only creates folders, and my system says that it is a virtual program. Any ideas, and I would be glad to try them, as I seem to have run out of other options. At present, building my own packages for TorK and dependencies is beyond my skill level. Thanks for any help, Bill Morder