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Re: [trinity-devel] Cleanup output clutter
by Darrell Anderson 06 May '13

06 May '13

>Inspected, I think it looks good :) >Thank you for your efforts. Are you going to push them to GIT or am I? Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] Cleanup output clutter
by Darrell Anderson 06 May '13

06 May '13

>From the top of my local repo, I performed the following: > >grep -rn "\\\n\\\r" . | grep printf | grep -v sprintf > >The results are limited to a handful of modules: > >applications/gtk3-tqt-engine >applications/kcmldap >applications/kcmldapcontroller >applications/kcmldapmanager >applications/kgtk-qt3 >applications/knetworkmanager8 >applications/knetworkmanager9 >applications/koffice >applications/qt4-tqt-theme-engine >applications/smartcardauth >libraries/libtdeldap >tdelibs/tderandr >tdenetwork/wifi/kcmwifi >tdepim/tderesources/caldav >tdepim/tderesources/carddav > >I did not want to interfere with any additional work you were >doing, which is why I asked rather than start patching. :-) Slavek, I created some cleanup patches. I only modified printf and tqWarning messages. http://humanreadable.nfshost.com/misc/trinity-cleanup-patches/ Please review them (they are short). If they look okay I'll push to GIT. Darrell

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Superkaramba widgets
by Darrell Anderson 06 May '13

06 May '13

We received an enhancement request to add some superkaramba widgets prepackaged as part of Trinity: http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1487 A primary advantage for prepackaging is ease-of-use for end-users. * Should we do this? * If we do this, do we package the widgets separately or merge them into the superkaramba sources in tdeutils? * If we do this, what guidelines do we establish for selecting which widget candidates to prepackage and support? * As there are many such widgets, even for KDE3, should we instead host a wiki page for installing widgets, such as from kde-look.org? Seems many of the older KDE3 widgets still function in Trinity. In addition to generic instructions, a wiki page could include tips for cleaning or massaging problematic widgets to work with Trinity. Comments and suggestions appreciated! :-) Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] Updating local GIT repository with switch_all_submodules_to_head_and_clean script
by Darrell Anderson 04 May '13

04 May '13

>No :) Update your git module scripts, you get an updated version >switch_all_submodules_to_head_and_clean. Flag --ignore-submodules >is used inside this script. Yay! Much faster. Thank you! Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] Updating local GIT repository with switch_all_submodules_to_head_and_clean script
by Darrell Anderson 04 May '13

04 May '13

>In the scripts I added checking for git ability, so that it can be >returned to >use flag --ignore-submodules (removed in commit c2cf6015, returned >in commit >7e23a1ee). This can significantly speed up the script. Are you saying use the script like this: switch_all_submodules_to_head_and_clean --ignore-submodules Darrell

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Updating local GIT repository with switch_all_submodules_to_head_and_clean script
by Darrell Anderson 04 May '13

04 May '13

I use the switch_all_submodules_to_head_and_clean script to update my local GIT repository. After the script displays the "Preparing $PWD for development use" message, there is an almost four minute delay before the script resumes. Is this delay normal? Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] KMail - added NetworkManager support
by Darrell Anderson 04 May '13

04 May '13

>It can be implemented as a KDED service, which pinging to a >predefined IP (or >to gateway) and expose the network state via DCOP. Unfortunately, >is not my >priority, because I use NetworkManager. I detest the idea of anything "phoning home." Therefore pinging a local gateway address is much more palatable. :-) Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] KMail - added NetworkManager support
by Darrell Anderson 04 May '13

04 May '13

>> Kmail here is always online, which, for an enterprise type workstation >> is what I lwant. Laptops may benifit from networkmanager, I never have >> and don't need one more thing to deal with in my environment. > >This is one reason why I would like this feature to use the TDE network >system, as that system a.) falls back gracefully when NetworkManager is >not installed and b.) is designed so that other network backends (e.g. >simply reading ifconfig) can be added in the future. In summary, not everyone uses a wireless connection. :-) We have a place to direct this conversation and patching: http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1105 BTW, this is a healthy enhancement request but is not an R14.0.0 priority. Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] KMail - added NetworkManager support
by Darrell Anderson 03 May '13

03 May '13

>> I added NetworkManager support to KMail. This patch will put >KMail in >> offline/online mode, according to current NetworkManager state. >As a side >> effect, KMail will be switched automatically to offline when you >will >> suspend >> the machine, and to online after resume. >> >> https://github.com/serghei/kde3- >kdepim/commit/0577b2e0087d6350a099778300ec3912a0fc1e74 >> >> -- >> Serghei > >It would be interesting to forward-port this to the TDE network >management >system, so that DBUS code is not duplicated in multiple places >within TDE... Does KMail start or default to offline mode when NetworkManager is not installed? Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] KMail - added NetworkManager support
by Darrell Anderson 03 May '13

03 May '13

>Kmail here is always online, which, for an enterprise type workstation >is what I want. Laptops may benifit from networkmanager, I never >have and don't need one more thing to deal with in my environment. Is there a more simpler method available? I don't see why any Trinity network-ready app should key off of networkmanager. Many people don't use that app. Online detection should be through the core network libraries or the underlying OS. I don't use networkmanager. I only use POP3/SMTP. KMail always starts in online mode, which is fine except when my router is offline, which is seldom the case. Then KMail kicks out kdialogs about not connecting. I would not mind the kdialogs not appearing at such times, but I'm not going to install networkmanager to obtain that. :-) We've had a similar conversation in enhancement request 1105: http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1105 Darrell

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