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Tim: How to troubleshoot kdialog passive popups
by Darrell Anderson 28 Apr '13

28 Apr '13

Tim, A small problem that has bugged me for a while. On my HTPC I use kdialog passive popups to remind me when a TV recording starts or stops. This is helpful to me when I run XBMC because I run XBMC in full screen. Originally when I built my HTPC I used KDE 3.5.10. The popups always appeared in front of XBMC, which satisfied my intent. Through the past many months I updated the HTPC: the operating system from Slackware 12.2 to 14.0, KDE 3.5.10 to Trinity GIT, Nvidia proprietary drivers, and XBMC from 9.01 to 10.1. The popups no longer appear in front of XBMC. When I toggle XBMC from full screen to windowed mode I can see the kdialog popups, but not when XBMC is in full mode. The popups appear in front of other apps. This is not a killer problem. :-) I realize there are several variables at play, but I don't know how the kdialog mechanism works. I'd appreciate ideas for determining whether Trinity (twin?) or kdialog is the culprit. Thanks! Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] Cleanup output clutter
by Darrell Anderson 28 Apr '13

28 Apr '13

>I started with most pressing - that tdelibs and tdebase. Currently >I focus on completing 3.5.13.2. I'll see if I find some next time to >explore and cleaning of other modules. Do you have a list of how many other >modules are affected? From the top of my local repo, I performed the following: grep -rn "\\\n\\\r" . | grep printf | grep -v sprintf The results are limited to a handful of modules: applications/gtk3-tqt-engine applications/kcmldap applications/kcmldapcontroller applications/kcmldapmanager applications/kgtk-qt3 applications/knetworkmanager8 applications/knetworkmanager9 applications/koffice applications/qt4-tqt-theme-engine applications/smartcardauth libraries/libtdeldap tdelibs/tderandr tdenetwork/wifi/kcmwifi tdepim/tderesources/caldav tdepim/tderesources/carddav I did not want to interfere with any additional work you were doing, which is why I asked rather than start patching. :-) Darrell

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Cleanup output clutter
by Darrell Anderson 28 Apr '13

28 Apr '13

Slavek, I notice in the commits web page you pushed some patches to change printf statements from \n\r to \n. I performed a quick grep of the sources. There are more printf statements that use \n\r. Are you planning to update the entire source tree? Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] Kate/Kwrite will not allow any editing of a file deemed to be a binary file
by Darrell Anderson 27 Apr '13

27 Apr '13

>When that happens to me I click on "tools" and click on "read only >mode" to remove the check mark. I can edit fine after that. Ah! Thank you. Always something new to learn! :-) Darrell

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Kate/Kwrite will not allow any editing of a file deemed to be a binary file
by Darrell Anderson 27 Apr '13

27 Apr '13

Hopefully there is a configuration cure to avoid a bug report. Any file that is opened in kate or kwrite resulting in the infamous warning dialog that the file is binary and editing will result in a corrupt file, renders both text editors into a non-editing mode. For example, create a diff file using "diff -urNa" where there are file additions or removals in the target directory. Open the diff file in kate or kwrite. The infamous warning dialog appears and editing thereafter is impossible. Also disabled is searching and seatch-and-replace. Bug or configuration problem? Darrell

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Best GIT way to remove multiple files and directories
by Darrell Anderson 27 Apr '13

27 Apr '13

I want to close bug report 1344. I need to remove duplicate files and directories. I know which files and directories to delete, but I'm uncertain about the best GIT way to do this. (Doing this outside of GIT is easy. :-) ) Fortunately there are only 9 modules affected, but the number of files and directories to delete varies in each module. Thanks! :-) Darrell

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Interesting TED video
by Darrell Anderson 25 Apr '13

25 Apr '13

I found the following TED video interesting with respect to software project management: http://www.linux.com/news/featured-blogs/185-jennifer-cloer/715856- jim-zemlin-at-tedx-what-weve-learned-from-linus-torvalds The video is only 18 minutes. Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] OnlyShowIn vs. NotShowIn
by Darrell Anderson 22 Apr '13

22 Apr '13

>Who upstream is making this problematic? Is this a Debian-only >issue? Is this only a packaging issue? Please explain more. What >exactly is needed to provide remedy? > >Trinity is recognized as an XDG desktop. Upstream, whoever they >might be, need to get on board. I doubt "upstream" has failed to >support other XDG recognized desktops. TDE != KDE. :) > >I created a tdelibs patch and am rebuilding now. I'll start >testing thereafter. I updated the patch by adding a -DWITH_OLD_XDG_STD configure option works great. No KDE4 apps autostart, no problems with desktop files in ~/.local/share/applications or $TDEDIRS. Should upstream problems continue then this patch seems like a fair compromise until those problems disappear. I have not tested by building tdelibs with -DWITH_OLD_XDG_STD, which retains the current dual behavior. Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] OnlyShowIn vs. NotShowIn
by Darrell Anderson 22 Apr '13

22 Apr '13

>We would need upstream acceptance of TDE in affected projects for >this to be viable. If this is not done, then users will notice a degraded >experience when basic programs such as Synaptic cease to function >properly. These users would then note that such applications work >properly under KDE, and logically conclude that TDE is broken. > >I think this is a lesser of two evils problem, and would like to >keep the dual test in at this point. > >Thoughts from others knowledgeable in this area? This should not be about lesser evils. Ugly approach! :) Who upstream is making this problematic? Is this a Debian-only issue? Is this only a packaging issue? Please explain more. What exactly is needed to provide remedy? Trinity is recognized as an XDG desktop. Upstream, whoever they might be, need to get on board. I doubt "upstream" has failed to support other XDG recognized desktops. TDE != KDE. :) I created a tdelibs patch and am rebuilding now. I'll start testing thereafter. Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] OnlyShowIn vs. NotShowIn
by Darrell Anderson 22 Apr '13

22 Apr '13

>This was on purpose to allow improperly coded KDE applications to >show up, for instance synaptic will not work otherwise as it uses >OnlyShowIn=KDE. The problem is identified in bug report 1364. I understand how this dual test was added after 3.5.10, when TDE was still considered KDE. Now that TDE is a recognized standalone XDG desktop, the dual testing for both TDE and KDE should be removed in R14.0.0. I don't know that the change should be backported to 3.5.13.x, but the change is needed in R14.0.0. Darrell

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