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Fwd: [opensuse-factory] Proposal for 12.2, move all binaries under /usr
by Robert Xu 27 Nov '11

27 Nov '11

If the system administrators do this change, how will we accommodate Trinity to it? Fedora is doing it; openSUSE is having an argument about if this is good or not. Gentoo had a discussion on this, I think. Should this be treated like a simple "let's move to /usr/local" or has the renaming allowed us to install side by side with KDE4 without the use of /opt? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Greg KH <gregkh(a)suse.de> Date: Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 22:51 Subject: [opensuse-factory] Proposal for 12.2, move all binaries under /usr To: opensuse-factory(a)opensuse.org Hi all, As a proposal for 12.2, I would like to implement the move of all binaries to /usr/ like is being done at the moment in Fedora. Here's the details as to why this is a good thing to do, and what is involved in it: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove The first packages implementing this have already started to land in Fedora's version of Factory. Before you get worried, there will be symlinks back to /bin and /sbin for those scripts expecting things to be in those locations. We can use the Fedora patches for almost all of this, they are all published at: http://harald.fedorapeople.org/downloads/usrmove/ and a number of upstream projects are already moving their releases over to this as well, which will make things easier. If there are no major objections, I'll start working on Base:system in December. thanks, greg k-h p.s. Please, before you respond, read the link above and all of the discussion about it and don't repeat the same questions that the link already answers. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org -- later daze. :: Robert Xu :: rxu.lincomlinux.org :: protocol.by/rxu

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Proposed startkde patch
by Darrell Anderson 27 Nov '11

27 Nov '11

I had problems in Slackware with the 3.5.13 startkde script. Biggest problem was starting KDE 4 apps on its own because $KDEDIRS was explicitly declared in the script and hard-coded to include /usr/share. That variable is intended to be user defined and should not be hard-coded in Trinity. Second problem was duplication of several snippets of code. Third problem was snippets of code that never got executed because a previous condition was satisfied. Fourth problem was the $XDG_DATA_DIRS path. I raised this issue in a previous post. I want the option of whether KDE4 apps appear in my Trinity menu. I can solve that problem easily in Slackware for both types of people using /etc/profile.d scripts. I don't know how other distros would handle that when there is no support for /etc/profile.d. I don't think this variable should be hard-coded in startkde unless completely undeclared. So I added conditions to set these variables only if they don't include Trinity paths. I don't want to submit this (yet) as a bug report. I would be grateful if some of you would test this new script in your distro. I suspect we need more work with this script in order to function correctly in all distros. We probably need a lot of conditional tests. Here are links to an updated script --- a patch and full script. http://humanreadable.nfshost.com/trinity/patches/kdebase/startkde.diff http://humanreadable.nfshost.com/trinity/patches/kdebase/startkde.new The patch allows you to quickly see the changes and the full script is there for easier copying to your system. Darrell

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Cmake build with debug support
by Darrell Anderson 27 Nov '11

27 Nov '11

With autotools I use --enable-debug=full. How is this done with cmake ? I built with -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug but there is no difference in the final package sizes. Is there anything in the build log that lets me know how I built a package? Darrell

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Compiz on Fedora 16
by Peter Lemken 26 Nov '11

26 Nov '11

While TDE on Fedora is nearly perfect now, I really miss compiz' eye candy. This seems to be a problem with dBus. Can anyone try to figure this our? I start compiz-manager and all I get is: xset q doesn't reveal the location of the log file. Using fallback /var/log/Xorg.0.log Detected PCI ID for VGA: 01:00.0 0300: 1002:71c4 (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Checking for texture_from_pixmap: present. Checking for non power of two support: present. Checking for Composite extension: present. Comparing resolution (1600x1200) to maximum 3D texture size (4096): Passed. Checking for nVidia: not present. Checking for FBConfig: present. Backend : ini Integration : true Profile : default Adding plugins Initializing core options...done Initializing composite options...done Initializing opengl options...done Initializing decor options...done /bin/sh: /usr/bin/kde4-window-decorator: No such file or directory Initializing wobbly options...done Initializing imgjpeg options...done Initializing resize options...done Initializing reflex options...done Initializing place options...done Initializing session options...done Initializing move options...done Initializing cube options...done Initializing screenshot options...done Initializing mousepoll options...done Initializing imgsvg options...done Initializing animation options...done Initializing td options...done Initializing thumbnail options...done Initializing workarounds options...done process 3835: arguments to dbus_message_iter_append_basic() were incorrect, assertion "*bool_p == 0 || *bool_p == 1" failed in file dbus-message.c line 2541. This is normally a bug in some application using the D-Bus library. D-Bus not built with -rdynamic so unable to print a backtrace /usr/bin/compiz-manager: line 367: 3835 Aborted ${COMPIZ_BIN_PATH}${COMPIZ_NAME} $COMPIZ_OPTIONS "$@" $COMPIZ_PLUGINS Window manager warning: Failed to load theme "Ia Ora Steel": Failed to find a valid file for theme Ia Ora Steel Window manager warning: Invalid WM_TRANSIENT_FOR window 0x169 specified for 0xe00008 (Configure ). Any ideas?

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Kickoff Ideas
by Calvin Morrison 25 Nov '11

25 Nov '11

Hello all, I have for some time been hacking around with Kickoff, looking to improve it, and make it definitely more TDEish. While it is not our default menu, we do provide it built in. Therefore I think it needs to be as good as it can get. I also think it is of the utmost importance that we follow the TDE HCI model that Tim drew up. This means that some things in the current Kickoff layout are not good. If you look at this link: http://imgur.com/h6xhB I've drawn arrows and other things in reference to what I am explaining here, also I've drawn numbers so it's easy to compare. 1) The width of kickoff takes up much to much real estate, and wasted real estate. My estimate is that we can shave off a good 50-60 pixels off of it to reduce screen space with almost no sacrifice. 2) We need to remove the "search" text field. It does nothing, it is not helpful, it is not intuitive, it is just a waste of space. Remove it, and make the actual search area larger. To make it clear that it is a search bar, we can do like the regular KMenu search does and have grayed out letters saying "search..." 3) We also could either A. remove the search icon entirely or B. shrink it to stop wasting space. Also currently this is a mng file (basically a dead format that never took off). the animation doesn't work. hopefully I can just use a regular pixmap instead. 4) in line with the HCI model on the Etherpad, large buttons are bad. this is not a tablet, and tablet interfaces are not optimal. We can shrink the tabs a bit, (probably 8-10 pixels each) this fits in with 1) to reduce the width. 5) I say we remove this bottom bar entirely. KMenu does not have it. I do not think we need to know what user is and what host. I do not think it is worth the real estate. Also we definitely don't need a link to the website. If people want to go to our website, they will. They don't need a button on the main menu. 6) the kickoff logout dialog is this: "logout?" where as the KMenu shows up a nice dialog with options to hibernate etc. Either barrow this from KMenu or add options for each of these in the menu. Thoughts? Suggestions? Does anyone actually use kickoff? Calvin Morrison

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Missing Help files
by Darrell Anderson 25 Nov '11

25 Nov '11

Quite a few 3.5.13 apps will not show associated Help files. A little investigating reveals the apps that show Help files have the Help files installed at: /opt/trinity/share/doc/kde/HTML Those apps that won't show Help files have the help files installed at: /opt/trinity/share/doc/HTML Is this a build issue at my end? Do I need to specify an explicit install location for help files or is this a configuration bug with the make files? There are quite a few apps like this. Darrell

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Kate: Warn about files modified by foreign processes
by Darrell Anderson 25 Nov '11

25 Nov '11

Does this option work? I have the option disabled. Kate still reminds when a file is changed. Also, does KWrite have the same option or does KWrite inherit that option through the Kate KParts? KWrite also keeps displaying these reminders. Would somebody else confirm this behavior? Thanks. Darrell

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Audio CDs being locked into drive
by Kristopher John Gamrat 25 Nov '11

25 Nov '11

I have been spending most of the day ripping my audio CDs using KAudioCreator. After each CD finishes, when I go to push the CD drive's eject button, nothing happens, even after several tries. I need to open a terminal and use the eject command as root (normal user doesn't work). When the CD drive is empty, or before I start ripping the inserted CD, the eject button on the drive responds immediately. Can anybody else confirm this? If not, it's probably something on my system. If so, I'm filing a bug report. -- Kristopher Gamrat Ark Linux webmaster http://www.arklinux.org/

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kaudiocreator will not build -- why?
by Darrell Anderson 25 Nov '11

25 Nov '11

I now realize that kaudiocreator does not build when I build te kdemultimedia package. The build log shows this: checking if kaudiocreator should be compiled... no Why? Darrell

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Configuring Kate (text editor)
by Darrell Anderson 24 Nov '11

24 Nov '11

This is more of a user question than developer but I'll post here because I use Kate all day to review build scripts, patches, source files, etc. In my KDE 3.5.10 version of Kate I have been long able to use a kludge to keep Kate in MDI (multiple document interface) mode. That is, regardless of what I do, all documents I want to open in Kate all open in the same window. I never have more than one window of Kate open. I use the Documents list window and the tabbar plugin to identify my files. Now that I am using Trinity too, I no longer can apply my kludge. Kate 3.5.13 is very much an SDI (single document interface) app and that frustrates me. I don't like multiple windows being open. Forced grouping does not really help. I am struggling with multiple Kate windows. I get confused when I double-click on a file in Konqueror and the file opens in Yet Another Window of Kate rather than the one I have open. Seems the only way I can control this is to open all files from within Kate and that is inconvenient too. How do I go about forcing all documents that I open in Kate to appear in the same window? Second, is there a better Quick Launch button that just opens Kate? I dislike the popup menu where I have to select how I want Kate to open. To me the idea of Quick Launch buttons is one click. Thanks. Darrell

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