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Query about openSUSE package of Trinity
by Dr Tony Young 20 Nov '11

20 Nov '11

And as soon as I sent the email below, my imail showed that I had just recieved another from Andrea Cascio talking about "updated qt3 packages for openSUSE" and to Robert Xu......So I am sure something is happening....but I'd dearly like to know "when" there could be a release. Hi, I realise this is sort of "out-field",but the Trinity web site has lots and lots of examples of the packages for other distros but never one for openSUSE. I'm not really, really a programmer but I have used openSUSE for years and I know if something wrong is the DE or the OS......And I can fault find simple tasks and problems. Currently I am using openSUSE 11.3 with KDE4.4.4 running in folder view and all special effects turned off. It's remarkably fast and very, very, very stable. Can anyone tell me when a package will be ready for openSUSE of any version ? I think Robert Xu (if I have that name right) was working on this, but so far I have seen nothing come out - and this is not a reflection on Robert as I am sure he has his hands overfull like the rest of you Trinity developers. Best wishes to you all.......I think what you are doing is great - I just want to get my hands on Trinity while using my favourite distribution. Kind regards Tony **************** Dr Tony Young 100 Langton Road Blackbutt Qld 4306 Australia ph (07) 4163 0395 fax as above Linux is to computing what freedom is to mankind...and then there's Microsoft (Helios) ******************************************************** This email is confidential and may be subject to professional privilege. It is also subject to copyright. If you have received it in error, confidentiality and privilege are not waived and you must not disclose or use the information in it. Please notify the sender by return email and delete it from your system. Any personal information in this email must be handled in accordance with the Australian Privacy Act 1988 (Cth). Its contents must not be made public without the express written consent of the author, Dr Tony Young. ********************************************************

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Cmake functions detection
by Laurent Dard 20 Nov '11

20 Nov '11

While discussing about kdm, it has been found that cmake (in kdebase) doesn't detect the crypt function. (A patch has been sent.) I noticed that the same function isn't detected in kdelibs, as well than other functions (alloca and dlerror). I reported a bug for this (http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=654). In comparison, I also found that autoconf, in kde 3.5.10, is detecting those functions. That makes me think that there's probably other errors, in the cmake configuration, in other parts of Trinity, and that it would be useful to take a look in the whole tree of trinity. What do you think? -- Laurent Dard

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Hello list!
by Andrea Cascio 20 Nov '11

20 Nov '11

Hi, I've recently subscribed to Trinity mailing lists, and would like to introduce myself. As many others here, I'm a long time KDE user. I don't want to rant about the current state of KDE4; let's just say that now I feel no more "at home" in KDE community. I like the ideas and spirit of the Trinity project, so I would like to offer some help in my spare time... which is unfortunately very few. :( But anyway, at work I maintain a minimal, server-oriented openSUSE derivate distribution, so I know how to manage RPMs, specfiles, and building problems. And I've also worked to projects both in C and C++ some years ago, so I hope to contribute some bug squashing too. I would like to help with RPM packaging for openSUSE. In the OBS site I've found the projects by Robert Xu. Are there other efforts or other people working on it? May I ask what is the current state, and how can I help? Sincerely Andrea Cascio

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Re: [trinity-devel] Kmailrc File Type.
by Laurent Dard 19 Nov '11

19 Nov '11

Le 19/11/2011 22:49, Richard J.M. Hill a écrit : > Maybe there is more than one bug at work here? Probably. (And one more bug: I answered directly to you... Let's go back to the list.) -- Laurent Dard

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Icon Activation Effects
by Darrell Anderson 19 Nov '11

19 Nov '11

I recall there being three different places to configure icon activation effects. I can only find one, in the panel. Where are the other two? I'm sure I'm looking right at them but just don't see them. :) Thanks. Darrell

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Fedora experience
by Peter Lemken 19 Nov '11

19 Nov '11

Howdy, first of all thank you all for keeping KDE3 alive and kicking and for providing packages for the various distributions. I finally got too fed up with Mandriva and was looking for a better alternative. OpenSuSE 12.1 is really great, but, alas, there are no trinity packages available, yet. Having seen the F15 and 16 packages I played with that. 3 days ago there was no F16 yet, so I downloaded the TDELIVEF15.iso and share my experience, which unfortunately goes for yesterday's release of the F16 live CD: The CD is severely broken in many ways: * Both CDs cannot launch the live installer from the desktop. It is therefore necessary to open a terminal, allow root to use the X-server by xhost + and start /usr/bin/liveinst manually. * The setup cannot be completed, because the default runlevel is 3. One needs to log in as root and start init 5 to get to the window manager. * TDE does not recognize one's old settings from a previous installation of KDE3. I have linked .kde3 to .kde in hy /home and I wonder whee those settings used to resid, or has TDE wiped my .kde? Not good. * The F15 CD cannot even log into the display manager at all. It is missing a critical package: for PAM, some gnome package. * The F15 CD misses the critical step of adding a regular user. I needed to manually adduser. * I can't get compiz to work at all, no matter what window decorator I use, neither gtk nor KDE4 works. I wish you would add the older compiz 8.6 to trinity, together with kde3-window-decorator. * Laptop management is totally broken. The ACPI-helper setup uses an Ubuntu/Debian specific command, which simply doesn't work on any other distribution. dpkg-stat-override can't possibly work on Fedora. Currently I need to manually put the machine to sleep. Also, /proc/acpi/sleep is deprecated in recent kernels. Please find a way to use KLaptop for SuspendToRAM * Trinity misses a working NetworkManager applet. I currently use nm-applet, but I can't make it reside in my system tray. Having said all that, I am really relieved to finally have an up to date distribution with my beloved KDE3 and I'd again like to thank you all for the great work!

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Proposed new applications page for the web site
by Darrell Anderson 19 Nov '11

19 Nov '11

Regarding the proposed new Applications page for the web site, providing descriptions of all apps in the Trinity repository, please suggest to me a programmatic way to: Extract the T-Menu layout to an outline format. Grep through my local SVN tree to extract app descriptions. (Where is this information likely to be?) Thanks! Darrell

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TDE Usage Testing
by Darrell Anderson 19 Nov '11

19 Nov '11

I missed quite a bit of the action around here the past many months and am behind the times in many ways. Today I was reviewing a TDE xsession log and saw several things I know nothing about. I don't know if these are bugs or normal messages. I started X/TDE from the command line as a non-root user in a virtual machine. ================================================ TDE, especially kdeinit, fills the log with many messages. I don't recall that in KDE3. Is this by design now? Is there a way to disable most of the messages? The messages will prove useful with troubleshooting, but I'm asking nonetheless. ================================================ reading '/home/users/tester/.kompmgr.pid' as kompmgr pidfile ================================================ I recall that TDE has some kind of compositing engine now. I presume this message is related. Yet I don't see anything in Control Center to manage any compositor. Seems if I don't have any such feature enabled I should not see messages for pid files. Where do I find the options for this compositor? ================================================ kdeinit: Shutting down running client. kdeinit: Killing kdeinit/klauncher. kdeinit: Launched DCOPServer, pid = 2155 result = 0 --------------------------------- It looks like dcopserver is already running. If you are sure that it is not already running, remove /home/users/tester/.DCOPserver_hairy__0 and start dcopserver again. --------------------------------- ================================================ As I am starting my TDE for the first time today, with no saved session, what client is running and needs to be killed? Also, as I have no $HOME/.DCOPserver* files and I know that TDE is not already running, why do I receive that message? ================================================ Cannot connect socket '/var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:0/socket'. ================================================ Is this an informational or error message? I'm guessing the latter because that directory has root:root 755 permissions. What is trying to connect to that socket. How do I fix? ================================================ xrdb: colon missing on line 359, ignoring line ================================================ Is this from TDE? ================================================ Could not load library! Trying exec.... ================================================ I see this message several times but can't tell what might cause this directly. The message is from kdelibs/kinit/kinit.cpp. ================================================ trying to create local folder /opt/trinity/share/config/kicc: Permission denied trying to create local folder /opt/trinity/share/config/kdisplay: Permission denied ================================================ Local folders are stored in $HOME, not /opt/trinity. These messages were generated when I was browsing the Control Center. Why are these config files being created in /opt/trinity rather than $HOME/.trinity? ================================================ QLayout "unnamed" added to QFrame "unnamed", which already has a layout QLayout "unnamed" added to QFrame "unnamed", which already has a layout QLayout "unnamed" added to QFrame "unnamed", which already has a layout ================================================ What might be causing this? Thanks! Darrell

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Documentation on kio slaves
by Laurent Dard 19 Nov '11

19 Nov '11

I found bad links here: http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/DeveloperTutorial… * removed: http://www.heise.de/ct/english/01/05/242/ * not free as in beer: http://www.heise.de/artikel-archiv/ct/2001/05/242 * empty: http://techbase.kde.org/Documentation/design/kde/ioslaves/index.html Do you know what should I read before attempting to implement a kio slave for trinity? (I'm looking for xz & lzma support in konqueror. see http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=611) -- Laurent Dard

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Kickoff patches
by Calvin Morrison 18 Nov '11

18 Nov '11

Hey all, For some time I have been working on Kickoff (the alternate panel under Kicker). I have resolved a few problems and have created a patch to fix up the problems. It closes at least bug 508 and 281 First of all, KNewButton is a terrible and bloated implementation of the KButton class, with animations that didn't work or do anything really. it does however have things that are required for the kickoff menu. So I stripped all the crap out of KNewButton and got it to work with the same settings that the regular kbutton does. This also fixes a bug with transparency that wasn't reported. Also I fixed the problem with the "computer" tab that was causing a endless loop. Once the tree unfreezes I plan on working on kickoff further. Calvin Morrison

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