11 May
2016
11 May
'16
8:21 a.m.
I have 14.0.3 installed freshly on Jessie on an AMD Cedar machine 18 months
old. When I try doing anything to access a CD in either of the two DVD
drives, http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Sound/xsession-errors-jessie-easyst.txt
(includes dmesg tail) shows some sort of audio setup problem seems to be
repeatedly trying and failing. When KsCD triggers this, it gets hung by the
problem. Simply logging out of the session takes an excessive length of time,
and so does attempting to reboot. Holding down CAD produces a long string of
failed to store sound card state messages instead of rebooting, until well
over a minute passes. On reboot, journal recovery occurs. /etc/group seems to
have the required user permission assignments. Aplay works OK on a test .wav
file, and so does normal startup and shutdown system sounds. How can I tell
where the fault lies? Could there be a broken dependency? I don't see any
open bug that seems related.
Output from alsa-info.sh:
http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Sound/alsa-info-jessie-easyst.txt
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12 May
12 May
6:28 a.m.
Felix Miata wrote:
I have 14.0.3 installed freshly on Jessie on an AMD
Cedar machine 18
months old. When I try doing anything to access a CD in either of the two
DVD drives,
http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Sound/xsession-errors-jessie-easyst.txt
(includes dmesg tail) shows some sort of audio setup problem seems to be
repeatedly trying and failing. When KsCD triggers this, it gets hung by
the problem. Simply logging out of the session takes an excessive length
of time, and so does attempting to reboot. Holding down CAD produces a
long string of failed to store sound card state messages instead of
rebooting, until well over a minute passes. On reboot, journal recovery
occurs. /etc/group seems to have the required user permission assignments.
Aplay works OK on a test .wav file, and so does normal startup and
shutdown system sounds. How can I tell where the fault lies? Could there
be a broken dependency? I don't see any open bug that seems related.
Output from alsa-info.sh:
http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Sound/alsa-info-jessie-easyst.txt
On my notebook (intel) after starting kscd notebook rebooted - kernel crash.
I tired in the vmware that I use for testing - the same result.
In firt case I use 4.4.3 kernel. In the second the debian stock.
Did you try kplayer or VLC to access the cd?
9:40 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Re: DVD drive access trouble on Jessie
deloptes composed on 2016-05-12 08:28 (UTC+0200):
Felix Miata wrote:
> I have 14.0.3 installed freshly on Jessie on an
AMD Cedar machine 18
> months old. When I try doing anything to access a CD in either of the two
> DVD drives,
> http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Sound/xsession-errors-jessie-easyst.txt
> (includes dmesg tail) shows some sort of audio setup problem seems to be
> repeatedly trying and failing. When KsCD triggers this, it gets hung by
> the problem. Simply logging out of the session takes an excessive length
> of time, and so does attempting to reboot. Holding down CAD produces a
> long string of failed to store sound card state messages instead of
> rebooting, until well over a minute passes. On reboot, journal recovery
> occurs. /etc/group seems to have the required user permission assignments.
> Aplay works OK on a test .wav file, and so does normal startup and
> shutdown system sounds. How can I tell where the fault lies? Could there
> be a broken dependency? I don't see any open bug that seems related.
> Output from alsa-info.sh:
> http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Sound/alsa-info-jessie-easyst.txt
On my notebook (intel) after starting kscd notebook
rebooted - kernel crash.
I tired in the vmware that I use for testing - the same result.
In firt case I use 4.4.3 kernel. In the second the debian stock.
Did you try kplayer or VLC to access the cd?
No, but I got Trinity Kaffeine and SMplayer to work, so I guess KsCD must be
broken. Jessie's already an anachronism, so I guess I'm upgrading this to
Stretch. Maybe its KsCD will work.
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2:29 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Re: DVD drive access trouble on Jessie
On Thursday 12 of May 2016 11:40:12 Felix Miata wrote:
deloptes composed on 2016-05-12 08:28 (UTC+0200):
KsCD allows you to set whether to play as audiocd or digitally. Audiocd method
requires an analog cable between the drive and sound card. The second method
is substantially grabbing and playback as a conventional audio. Because most
of new computers not allows analog connection, it is preferable to use
digital playback. It usually has fewer problems.
--
Slávek
Felix Miata wrote:
No, but I got Trinity Kaffeine and SMplayer to work, so I guess KsCD must
be broken. Jessie's already an anachronism, so I guess I'm upgrading this
to Stretch. Maybe its KsCD will work. I have 14.0.3 installed freshly on Jessie on an
AMD Cedar machine 18
months old. When I try doing anything to access a CD in either of the
two DVD drives,
http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Sound/xsession-errors-jessie-easyst.txt
(includes dmesg tail) shows some sort of audio setup problem seems to be
repeatedly trying and failing. When KsCD triggers this, it gets hung by
the problem. Simply logging out of the session takes an excessive length
of time, and so does attempting to reboot. Holding down CAD produces a
long string of failed to store sound card state messages instead of
rebooting, until well over a minute passes. On reboot, journal recovery
occurs. /etc/group seems to have the required user permission
assignments. Aplay works OK on a test .wav file, and so does normal
startup and shutdown system sounds. How can I tell where the fault lies?
Could there be a broken dependency? I don't see any open bug that seems
related.
Output from alsa-info.sh:
http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Sound/alsa-info-jessie-easyst.txt
On my notebook (intel) after starting kscd notebook rebooted - kernel
crash. I tired in the vmware that I use for testing - the same result.
In firt case I use 4.4.3 kernel. In the second the debian stock.
Did you try kplayer or VLC to access the cd?
13 May
13 May
9:44 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] DVD drive access trouble on Jessie
Slávek Banko composed on 2016-05-12 16:29 (UTC+0200):
Felix Miata wrote:
> deloptes composed on 2016-05-12 08:28 (UTC+0200):
>> Felix Miata wrote:
> >> I have 14.0.3 installed freshly on Jessie
on an AMD Cedar machine 18
> >> months old. When I try doing anything to access a CD in either of the
> >> two DVD drives,
> >> http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Sound/xsession-errors-jessie-easyst.txt
> >> (includes dmesg tail) shows some sort of audio setup problem seems to be
> >> repeatedly trying and failing. When KsCD triggers this, it gets hung by
> >> the problem. Simply logging out of the session takes an excessive length
> >> of time, and so does attempting to reboot. Holding down CAD produces a
> >> long string of failed to store sound card state messages instead of
> >> rebooting, until well over a minute passes. On reboot, journal recovery
> >> occurs. /etc/group seems to have the required user permission
> >> assignments. Aplay works OK on a test .wav file, and so does normal
> >> startup and shutdown system sounds. How can I tell where the fault lies?
> >> Could there be a broken dependency? I don't see any open bug that seems
> >> related.
> >> Output from alsa-info.sh:
> >> http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Sound/alsa-info-jessie-easyst.txt
> > On my notebook (intel) after starting kscd
notebook rebooted - kernel
> > crash. I tired in the vmware that I use for testing - the same result.
> > In firt case I use 4.4.3 kernel. In the second the debian stock.
> > Did you try kplayer or VLC to access the cd?
> No, but I got Trinity Kaffeine and SMplayer to
work, so I guess KsCD must
> be broken. Jessie's already an anachronism, so I guess I'm upgrading this
> to Stretch. Maybe its KsCD will work.
KsCD allows you to set whether to play as audiocd or
digitally. Audiocd method
requires an analog cable between the drive and sound card. The second method
is substantially grabbing and playback as a conventional audio. Because most
of new computers not allows analog connection, it is preferable to use
digital playback. It usually has fewer problems.
I replaced Jessie with Stretch without helping this at all. Neither OM drive
has any connector available for a separate audio cable. KsCD apparently by
default has use direct digital playback selected.
Could including or not the following in fstab be providing any clues about this?
/dev/sr0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
/dev/sr1 /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
Those are lines the debian installer put there.
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words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
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12 May
12 May
8:04 p.m.
Felix Miata wrote:
Jessie's already an anachronism
what do you mean? it is stable - why do you think KsCD would work with
stretch?
I ran via gdb - attached the log, bt and dmesg part.
I don't remember exact details when kernel part was changed but it looks
that something with the device access is wrong. IMO it should work with
older kernel, not with newer. Which version did you try with?
regards
10:09 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] DVD drive access trouble on Jessie
deloptes composed on 2016-05-12 22:04 (UTC+0200):
Felix Miata wrote:
> Jessie's already an anachronism
what do you mean? it is stable
Stable doesn't always mean usable. Jessie has X xerver 1.16.4. I needed
newer. I couldn't find a way to get current 1.18.3 into Jessie even
with backports enabled, so I dist-upgraded to Stretch, which has 1.18.3.
That solved an an initial obstacle to troubleshooting after sound quit
working altogether in Jessie, but sound is dead in Stretch too.
I doubt he needs KsCD. His preference is VLC, and both SMplayer and Kaffeine
were working too before the total death of sound. I'd like simply to remove
kscd-trinity, but attempting that wants to remove also kdemultimedia-trinity,
tde-trinity, and tde-multimedia-trinity, and subject ~several hundred trinity
and other packages to disappearance if autoremove ever gets run. :-(
- why do you think KsCD would work with > stretch?
Not an expectation, just something else to try.
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words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
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8:52 p.m.
Felix Miata wrote:
deloptes composed on 2016-05-12 08:28 (UTC+0200):
Felix Miata wrote:
No, but I got Trinity Kaffeine and SMplayer to work, so I guess KsCD must
be broken. Jessie's already an anachronism, so I guess I'm upgrading this
to Stretch. Maybe its KsCD will work.
https://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2014/12/msg00324.html
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1580776
and finally here
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/linux.kernel/E-MVZEK9uzU/juDhIFBbmmIJ
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