24 Nov
2021
24 Nov
'21
1:48 a.m.
Am I the only one frustrated by copy and paste adding increasing amounts of leading
whitespace with successive lines, copying from Konsole to MCedit running in a neighbor
Konsole tab? I often get this:
# inxi -S
System: Host: ab85m Kernel: 5.10.75-desktop-1.mga8 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Trinity
Distro: Mageia 8 mga8
# inxi -Ga
Graphics: Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics
vendor: ASUSTeK driver: i915 v: kernel
bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0402 class-ID: 0300
Display: x11 server: Mageia X.org 1.20.12 driver: loaded:
modesetting unloaded: vesa alternate: fbdev,intel
display-ID: :0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 2560x2520 s-dpi: 120
s-size: 541x533mm (21.3x21.0") s-diag: 759mm (29.9")
Monitor-1: DP-1 res: 2560x1440 hz:
60 dpi: 109 size: 598x336mm (23.5x13.2") diag: 686mm (27")
Monitor-2: HDMI-3 res:
2560x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 97 size: 673x284mm (26.5x11.2") diag: 730mm (28.8")
OpenGL:
renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics (HSW GT1) v: 4.5 Mesa 21.2.4 compat-v: 3.0 direct
render: Yes
when it should be like this:
# inxi -S
System: Host: ab85m Kernel: 5.14.18-300.fc35.x86_64 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: KDE Plasma
5.23.3
Distro: Fedora release 35 (Thirty Five)
# inxi -Ga
Graphics: Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics
vendor: ASUSTeK driver: i915 v: kernel
bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0402 class-ID: 0300
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 compositor: kwin_x11 driver: loaded:
modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa
display-ID: :0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 2560x2520 s-dpi: 120 s-size: 541x533mm (21.3x21.0")
s-diag: 759mm (29.9")
Monitor-1: DP-1 res: 2560x1440 hz: 60 dpi: 109 size: 598x336mm
(23.5x13.2") diag: 686mm (27")
Monitor-2: HDMI-3 res: 2560x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 97 size: 673x284mm
(26.5x11.2") diag: 730mm (28.8")
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics (HSW GT1) v: 4.6 Mesa 21.2.5 compat-v:
3.1 direct render: Yes
#
FWIW, this is output from inxi v3.3.09 (released yesterday).
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24 Nov
24 Nov
6:01 a.m.
Felix Miata wrote:
FWIW, this is output from inxi v3.3.09 (released
yesterday).
check your environment variables or settings. I have seen this in "vi" but
do not remember what was exactly the setting to tweak.
In any case it has to do with automatic formatting and nothing to do with
konsole itself.
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27 Nov
27 Nov
6:30 a.m.
deloptes composed on 2021-11-24 07:01 (UTC+0100):
Felix Miata wrote:
> FWIW, this is output from inxi v3.3.09 (released
yesterday).
check your environment variables or settings. I have
seen this in "vi" but
do not remember what was exactly the setting to tweak.
In any case it has to do with automatic formatting and nothing to do with
konsole itself.
Check them for what? Automatic formatting of what? I don't often do anything that
I know my change any environment settings from defaults. All my Debians use the
same .bashrc. All my openSUSEs and Fedoras use a similar one, and my Mageias use
another that's almost the same. It's happened in the last week on 3 machines'
installations, Mageia, Fedora, and Debian. I'm routinely copying output from inxi,
so this is most often when I notice it happen, but when I copy more than just from
inxi at once it affects all that follows once it begins.
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Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion,
based on faith, not based on science.
Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
Felix Miata
8:35 p.m.
On 11/27/21 12:30 AM, Felix Miata wrote:
deloptes composed on 2021-11-24 07:01 (UTC+0100):
Felix,
Check your /etc/vimrc or ~/.vimrc and make sure autoindent is turned off.
e.g. look for:
" automatically indent lines (default)
" set noautoindent
You can uncomment the "set noautoindent" for vi globally (I do that in my
~/.vimrc). You can also just use the command ': set noai' in vim to turn it off.
I have seen konsole do this with vim active for --- well forever. It drives
me nuts, so I turn autoindent off and if I need it, just type ': set ai' to
turn it on when editing code.
That is likely the issue if vim is involved, if not -- I have no other guesses.
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Felix Miata wrote:
> FWIW, this is output from inxi v3.3.09
(released yesterday).
check your environment variables or settings. I
have seen this in "vi" but
do not remember what was exactly the setting to tweak.
In any case it has to do with automatic formatting and nothing to do with
konsole itself.
Check them for what? Automatic formatting of what? I don't often do anything that
I know my change any environment settings from defaults. All my Debians use the
same .bashrc. All my openSUSEs and Fedoras use a similar one, and my Mageias use
another that's almost the same. It's happened in the last week on 3
machines'
installations, Mageia, Fedora, and Debian. I'm routinely copying output from inxi,
so this is most often when I notice it happen, but when I copy more than just from
inxi at once it affects all that follows once it begins.
28 Nov
28 Nov
3:14 a.m.
Check them for
what? Automatic formatting of what? I don't often do anything that
I know my change any environment settings from defaults. All my Debians use the
same .bashrc. All my openSUSEs and Fedoras use a similar one, and my Mageias use
another that's almost the same. It's happened in the last week on 3
machines'
installations, Mageia, Fedora, and Debian. I'm routinely copying output from inxi,
so this is most often when I notice it happen, but when I copy more than just from
inxi at once it affects all that follows once it begins.
Felix,
Check your /etc/vimrc or ~/.vimrc and make sure autoindent is turned off.
e.g. look for:
" automatically indent lines (default)
" set noautoindent
You can uncomment the "set noautoindent" for vi globally (I do that in my
~/.vimrc). You can also just use the command ': set noai' in vim to turn it
off.
I have seen konsole do this with vim active for --- well forever. It drives
me nuts, so I turn autoindent off and if I need it, just type ': set ai' to
turn it on when editing code.
That is likely the issue if vim is involved, if not -- I have no other guesses.
7 Dec
7 Dec
7:59 a.m.
Michele Calgaro via tde-devels composed on 2021-11-28 12:14 (UTC+0900):
You can try running it in an xterm and compare
with Konsole to see if you spot any difference.
How? One of the reasons I depend on Konsole is its menus that Xterm doesn't have,
e.g. copy & paste.
Environments where the problem seems to be consistent are Mageia and Fedora.
--
Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion,
based on faith, not based on science.
Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
Felix Miata
9:23 a.m.
On 2021/12/07 04:59 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
Michele Calgaro via tde-devels composed on 2021-11-28
12:14 (UTC+0900):
You can use mouse+middle click to copy text. Or in vim you can copy from the system
clipboard.
You can of course do the comparison in some other terminal of your preference if needed.
Cheers
Michele
You can try running it in an xterm and compare
with Konsole to see if you spot any difference.
How? One of the reasons I depend on Konsole is its menus that Xterm doesn't have,
e.g. copy & paste.
Environments where the problem seems to be consistent are Mageia and Fedora.
9 Dec
9 Dec
1:56 a.m.
Michele Calgaro via tde-devels composed on 2021-12-07 18:23 (UTC+0900):
Felix Miata wrote:
> Michele Calgaro via tde-devels composed on
2021-11-28 12:14 (UTC+0900):
>> You can try running it in an xterm and
compare
>> with Konsole to see if you spot any difference.
> How? One of the reasons I depend on Konsole is its
menus that Xterm doesn't have,
> e.g. copy & paste.
> Environments where the problem seems to be
consistent are Mageia and Fedora.
You can use mouse+middle click to copy text. Or in vim
you can copy from the system clipboard.
You can of course do the comparison in some other terminal of your preference if needed.
I use trackballs that have no middle mouse buttons, Kensington and Logitech.
Pasting into vim (36M for software I never use)(running in Konsole)(Shift-INS)
produces same problem. Pasting into Xterm (Shift-INS) works as expected. Pasting
into mcedit (Shift-INS) running in Xterm works as expected. Fedora 35 tested here.
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Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion,
based on faith, not based on science.
Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
Felix Miata
30 Nov
30 Nov
5:11 a.m.
David C. Rankin composed on 2021-11-27 14:35 (UTC-0600):
Check your /etc/vimrc or ~/.vimrc and make sure
autoindent is turned off.
e.g. look for:
" automatically indent lines (default)
" set noautoindent
You can uncomment the "set noautoindent" for
vi globally (I do that in my
~/.vimrc). You can also just use the command ': set noai' in vim to turn it off.
I have seen konsole do this with vim active for ---
well forever. It drives
me nuts, so I turn autoindent off and if I need it, just type ': set ai' to
turn it on when editing code.
That is likely the issue if vim is involved, if not
-- I have no other guesses.
I finally found installations with a .vimrc to remove (host big41, Mageia 7/TDE
14.0.9 & 8/TDE 14.0.11). Its removal didn't help, and there is no /etc/vim* in
either.
To be clear, the editor I always use in mc is mcedit, the internal mc editor. I
can't imagine what vim settings would have to do with it.
--
Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion,
based on faith, not based on science.
Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
Felix Miata
5:45 a.m.
On 11/29/21 11:11 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
David C. Rankin composed on 2021-11-27 14:35
(UTC-0600):
Then it is something, perhaps where the text you are pasting is coming from.
From kwrite to mcedit in konsole on 15.0, no problems:
https://paste.opensuse.org/18758362
Only other thought I would have would be if your indentations were actual
'tab' characters instead of spaces. (note that is a thought, guess, etc...)
Pasting from code with spaces for indention seems to work fine.
aside:
(while we are on konsole, we need to update the xterm backend as the new xterm
provides a multi-line write that some package managers are using that is not
ANSI escape based that opensuse KDE3 hasn't been patched for -- and I suspect
TDE is in the same boat) pacman (Arch package manager) is doing this now and
konsole just kind of provides jittery output on a single line, rather than
current and total on separate lines.)
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David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
Check your /etc/vimrc or ~/.vimrc and make sure
autoindent is turned off.
e.g. look for:
" automatically indent lines (default)
" set noautoindent
You can uncomment the "set
noautoindent" for vi globally (I do that in my
~/.vimrc). You can also just use the command ': set noai' in vim to turn it off.
I have seen konsole do this with vim active for
--- well forever. It drives
me nuts, so I turn autoindent off and if I need it, just type ': set ai' to
turn it on when editing code.
That is likely the issue if vim is involved, if
not -- I have no other guesses.
I finally found installations with a .vimrc to remove (host big41, Mageia 7/TDE
14.0.9 & 8/TDE 14.0.11). Its removal didn't help, and there is no /etc/vim* in
either.
To be clear, the editor I always use in mc is mcedit, the internal mc editor. I
can't imagine what vim settings would have to do with it.
8:11 p.m.
On 2021-11-29 23:45:45 David C. Rankin wrote:
On 11/29/21 11:11 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
This aside issue warrants an enhancement request in Gitea.
https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tde/issues/new
Leslie
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Operating System: Linux
Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.3 x86_64
Desktop Environment: Trinity
Qt: 3.5.0
TDE: R14.0.10
tde-config: 1.0
David C. Rankin composed on 2021-11-27 14:35
(UTC-0600):
Then it is something, perhaps where the text you are pasting is coming
from. From kwrite to mcedit in konsole on 15.0, no problems:
https://paste.opensuse.org/18758362
Only other thought I would have would be if your indentations were actual
'tab' characters instead of spaces. (note that is a thought, guess, etc...)
Pasting from code with spaces for indention seems to work fine.
aside:
(while we are on konsole, we need to update the xterm backend as the new
xterm provides a multi-line write that some package managers are using that
is not ANSI escape based that opensuse KDE3 hasn't been patched for -- and
I suspect TDE is in the same boat) pacman (Arch package manager) is doing
this now and konsole just kind of provides jittery output on a single line,
rather than current and total on separate lines.) Check your /etc/vimrc or ~/.vimrc and make sure
autoindent is turned
off. e.g. look for:
" automatically indent lines (default)
" set noautoindent
You can uncomment the "set noautoindent" for vi globally (I do that in
my ~/.vimrc). You can also just use the command ': set noai' in vim to
turn it off.
I have seen konsole do this with vim active for --- well forever. It
drives me nuts, so I turn autoindent off and if I need it, just type ':
set ai' to turn it on when editing code.
That is likely the issue if vim is involved, if not -- I have no other
guesses.
I finally found installations with a .vimrc to remove (host big41, Mageia
7/TDE 14.0.9 & 8/TDE 14.0.11). Its removal didn't help, and there is no
/etc/vim* in either.
To be clear, the editor I always use in mc is mcedit, the internal mc
editor. I can't imagine what vim settings would have to do with it.
12 Dec
12 Dec
6:37 a.m.
On 11/30/21 2:11 PM, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
This aside issue warrants an enhancement request in Gitea.
https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tde/issues/new
Leslie
Done:
https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tde/issues/71
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