11 Apr
2021
11 Apr
'21
5:54 a.m.
Why? What on a desktop PC uses it? Is it yet another overbearing openSUSE rpm
dependency that isn't really a dependency?
There is some relationship with upower, removal of which wants to remove 35
Trinity packages.
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11 Apr
11 Apr
6:59 a.m.
Felix Miata wrote:
Why? What on a desktop PC uses it? Is it yet another
overbearing openSUSE
rpm dependency that isn't really a dependency?
I don't know what it is but there are many notebooks with SIM slot
There is some relationship with upower, removal of
which wants to remove
35 Trinity packages.
Could be - if it is mobile it depends on battery.
6:36 p.m.
On 2021-04-11 01:59:04 deloptes wrote:
Felix Miata wrote:
Is it possible for Trinity to determine if the machine it's being installed into is
a
desktop or laptop machine? There seems to be an unwarranted assumption (not just by
Trinity) that everything is a laptop machine any more.
Leslie
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Why? What on a desktop PC uses it? Is it yet
another overbearing openSUSE
rpm dependency that isn't really a dependency?
I don't know what it is but there are many notebooks with SIM slot
There is some relationship with upower, removal
of which wants to remove
35 Trinity packages.
Could be - if it is mobile it depends on battery. 
6:41 p.m.
Anno domini 2021 Sun, 11 Apr 13:36:20 -0500
J Leslie Turriff scripsit:
On 2021-04-11 01:59:04 deloptes wrote:
The easy way:
if [ -d /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0 ]; then echo LAPTOP; else echo MAYBENOLAPTOP; fi
The question is: what do you want to do with that information?
Nik
Felix Miata wrote:
Is it possible for Trinity to determine if the machine it's being installed into is
a
desktop or laptop machine? There seems to be an unwarranted assumption (not just by
Trinity) that everything is a laptop machine any more.
Leslie Why? What on a desktop PC uses it? Is it yet
another overbearing openSUSE
rpm dependency that isn't really a dependency?
I don't know what it is but there are many notebooks with SIM slot
There is some relationship with upower, removal
of which wants to remove
35 Trinity packages.
Could be - if it is mobile it depends on battery.
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7:06 p.m.
On Sun April 11 2021 11:41:30 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
if [ -d /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0 ]; then echo
LAPTOP; else echo
MAYBENOLAPTOP; fi
Works OK on newer laptops but not on some older models. Does
it need ACPI/SuperFish?
FWIW we use Debian and our newer laptops don't have upower or
libimobiledevice6 installed so the requirement in opensuse may
possibly be an avoidable packaging artifact if someone wants
to investigate further.
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7:26 p.m.
Anno domini 2021 Sun, 11 Apr 12:06:30 -0700
Mike Bird via tde-devels scripsit:
On Sun April 11 2021 11:41:30 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
wrote:
Well, it works as long as there is some battery interface. I'm quite sure you need
ACPI for this, in my case the thinkpad acpi kernel module. I have never seen a laptop with
a battery that does not provide charging status and capacity information, so most likely
any laptop that is supported by linux will be detected as laptop. What you cannot detect
that way are UPS of any kind like in the raspberrypi laptop (pitop).
if [ -d /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0 ]; then echo
LAPTOP; else echo
MAYBENOLAPTOP; fi
Works OK on newer laptops but not on some older models. Does
it need ACPI/SuperFish? FWIW we use Debian and our newer laptops don't
have upower or
libimobiledevice6 installed so the requirement in opensuse may
possibly be an avoidable packaging artifact if someone wants
to investigate further.
I don't have upower or whatever laptop-special stuff on devuan installed, ether.
Nik
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6:54 p.m.
J Leslie Turriff wrote:
Is it possible for Trinity to determine if the machine
it's being
installed into is a desktop or laptop machine? There seems to be an
unwarranted assumption (not just by Trinity) that everything is a laptop
machine any more.
But I am not sure that this will help solve the problem described by Felix
Miata.
IMO there should be metapackage laptop and another for desktop which makes
things very complicated. The distros like Ubuntu OpenSuSE etc usually
install more than you need and one should live with it or customize.
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