just in case someone missed it: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2012/02/having-a-look-at-the-oldnew-de...
werner
Here is my screenshot. Can you do that in KDE4?
I tried KDE4 2 times. So you can't put me in your second group.
I don't know what means "classic". I always tried something new hoping that it will be better. So you can't put me in your third group too. A first group? No, of course not.
I just found ideal UI spare the bugs and incompleteness (which I can fix when I get retired). For me ideal means more features. The more settings UI has the more it will be possible to fit someone's needs, the more it will be ideal.
When I discovered that version 4 can't do things that I got accustomed to expect from KDE desktop, I was very disappointed. I as user expected from new version that it could do same and more, but in fact it appeared that it could do lot more but it can't do same. "The lot more" I found pretty useless, so for me "the same" is the crucial thing!
My thought of why this happened evolved through time since that happened. And now I can guess that this happened because the creators of KDE4 done it not for people but for themselves. They wanted some new experience, they saw what Microsoft did with Vista and Mac with Leopard (or what does it called). But, I personally don't believe in trend of "simplifying" features.
The degraded Gwenview for example. How someone could guess that once pretty good program could become this?! They removed features from Amarok such as bar-graph spectrum viewer. Kscope became totally useless! How can one call this? An experiment at best!
Hmmm... Maybe I hate KDE4 after all.... So put me in your second group! :))
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Werner Joss werner@hoernerfranzracing.de wrote:
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On Saturday 11 February 2012 16:18:06 Aleksey Midenkov wrote:
I tried KDE4 2 times. So you can't put me in your second group.
I think you misunderstood my post. the link provided does not reflect my personal opinion on the covered subject(s) - I just wanted everybody here to read it (and draw his own conclusions).
werner
On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 19:18:06 +0400 Aleksey Midenkov midenok@gmail.com wrote:
Here is my screenshot. Can you do that in KDE4?
Everything except the distinct USB icons, with the 2 yrs old KDE 4.4.3 (I didn't try with KDE 4.8).
I tried KDE4 2 times. So you can't put me in your second group.
I don't know what means "classic". I always tried something new hoping that it will be better. So you can't put me in your third group too. A first group? No, of course not.
I just found ideal UI spare the bugs and incompleteness (which I can fix when I get retired). For me ideal means more features. The more settings UI has the more it will be possible to fit someone's needs, the more it will be ideal.
When I discovered that version 4 can't do things that I got accustomed to expect from KDE desktop, I was very disappointed. I as user expected from new version that it could do same and more, but in fact it appeared that it could do lot more but it can't do same. "The lot more" I found pretty useless, so for me "the same" is the crucial thing!
My thought of why this happened evolved through time since that happened. And now I can guess that this happened because the creators of KDE4 done it not for people but for themselves. They wanted some new experience, they saw what Microsoft did with Vista and Mac with Leopard (or what does it called). But, I personally don't believe in trend of "simplifying" features.
The degraded Gwenview for example. How someone could guess that once pretty good program could become this?! They removed features from Amarok such as bar-graph spectrum viewer. Kscope became totally useless! How can one call this? An experiment at best!
Hmmm... Maybe I hate KDE4 after all.... So put me in your second group! :))
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Darrell
just in case someone missed it: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2012/02/having-a-look-at-the-oldnew-de...
The only hatred I see is Martin's.
We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.
Darrell
Here's a challenge to all the people here:
Find one thing you can do in TDE that you can't do in KDE4.8 and post it on this Etherpad: http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/41
Also note the fastest way to access the feature (i.e. minimum amount of mouse clicks/typing) and post how many left/right mouse clicks you used to access the feature.
If Martin wants to spread FUD we do need to counter him. :-)
Tim
just in case someone missed it: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2012/02/having-a-look-at-the-oldnew-de...
The only hatred I see is Martin's.
We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.
Darrell
Here's a challenge to all the people here:
Find one thing you can do in TDE that you can't do in KDE4.8 and post it on this Etherpad: http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/41
Also note the fastest way to access the feature (i.e. minimum amount of mouse clicks/typing) and post how many left/right mouse clicks you used to access the feature.
If Martin wants to spread FUD we do need to counter him. :-)
Tim
Oh, and Martin, if you think it's "sad" that we "duplicated" the KDE project's efforts, you should know that I think it is unconscionable that KDE decided to remove the majority of KDE 3.5's features before undertaking the metioned ports to Qt4, GIT, etc. and "reinvent" the desktop in a manner that was widely panned. A project with good leadership would have undertaken the needed technical changes before trying to radically change the user experience.
Tim
On 11 February 2012 14:25, Timothy Pearson kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
just in case someone missed it: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2012/02/having-a-look-at-the-oldnew-de...
The only hatred I see is Martin's.
We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.
Darrell
Here's a challenge to all the people here:
Find one thing you can do in TDE that you can't do in KDE4.8 and post it on this Etherpad: http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/41
Also note the fastest way to access the feature (i.e. minimum amount of mouse clicks/typing) and post how many left/right mouse clicks you used to access the feature.
If Martin wants to spread FUD we do need to counter him. :-)
Tim
After reading through Martin's blog post I am bemused.
"the project gets dominated by users and developers hating the KDE 4 technology." - well yes of course it is you. Hello Mr. Obvious! But sorry, I won't be hiring you as my private detective.
"So the users looking for Trinity as a lightweight alternative to KDE Plasma just fail to realize that five years ago they were screaming that KDE 3.5 is too heavy. " - Great, ever heard of Moore's Law? 5 years ago we had much worse technology.
"I have read quite often that “Qt 3 is now maintained by Trinity”. This is a pure lie." - Not a lie. Definitely not. We are not Developing it, but maintaining it by providing a central place to import patches to and keep it up to date with modern compilers. "To keep in an existing state; preserve or retain: maintain one's composure.", that is the definition of maintaining and that is what we are doing.
"The good news is that there is a sane project providing a classic Qt based desktop: Razor-Qt." - Yet our goals are very different, using Qt has nothing to do with it. That is like saying xfce should quit because gnome also uses GTK+
"It is built up on Qt 4 and has a clear project aim." - Trinity has a very clear focus. In fact it's stated on our website. On of our other goals is to improve and expand the Trinity HCI model, and to make sure our environment provides the maximum user experience for those seeking this traditional mouse and keyboard model.
And Finally,
"So my recommendation for all Trinity users is to either try again KDE Plasma 4.8 or to give razor a try."
Great, I am actually typing this on KDE4.8 Trinity is no project anybody could seriously recommend and a stock KDE 3.5 is most likely a better solution than Trinity."
On 11 February 2012 17:37, Calvin Morrison mutantturkey@gmail.com wrote:
On 11 February 2012 14:25, Timothy Pearson kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
just in case someone missed it: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2012/02/having-a-look-at-the-oldnew-de...
The only hatred I see is Martin's.
We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.
Darrell
Here's a challenge to all the people here:
Find one thing you can do in TDE that you can't do in KDE4.8 and post it on this Etherpad: http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/41
Also note the fastest way to access the feature (i.e. minimum amount of mouse clicks/typing) and post how many left/right mouse clicks you used to access the feature.
If Martin wants to spread FUD we do need to counter him. :-)
Tim
After reading through Martin's blog post I am bemused.
"the project gets dominated by users and developers hating the KDE 4 technology." - well yes of course it is you. Hello Mr. Obvious! But sorry, I won't be hiring you as my private detective.
"So the users looking for Trinity as a lightweight alternative to KDE Plasma just fail to realize that five years ago they were screaming that KDE 3.5 is too heavy. " - Great, ever heard of Moore's Law? 5 years ago we had much worse technology.
"I have read quite often that “Qt 3 is now maintained by Trinity”. This is a pure lie." - Not a lie. Definitely not. We are not Developing it, but maintaining it by providing a central place to import patches to and keep it up to date with modern compilers. "To keep in an existing state; preserve or retain: maintain one's composure.", that is the definition of maintaining and that is what we are doing.
"The good news is that there is a sane project providing a classic Qt based desktop: Razor-Qt." - Yet our goals are very different, using Qt has nothing to do with it. That is like saying xfce should quit because gnome also uses GTK+
"It is built up on Qt 4 and has a clear project aim." - Trinity has a very clear focus. In fact it's stated on our website. On of our other goals is to improve and expand the Trinity HCI model, and to make sure our environment provides the maximum user experience for those seeking this traditional mouse and keyboard model.
Sorry, Gmail's new interface is a joke:p
And Finally,
"So my recommendation for all Trinity users is to either try again KDE Plasma 4.8 or to give razor a try."
Great, I am actually typing this on KDE4.8 machine. I was going to type this with kmail - but I cant get it working. I am finding 4.8 to be a smooth experience but not one that I want.
Trinity is no project anybody could seriously recommend and a stock KDE 3.5 is most likely a better solution than Trinity."
Howso? KDE3.5 is certainly far behind Trinity. It has been out of date and not maintained for almost 4 years. this is ridiculous.
I think there is bad karma on both sides, but I'm pretty pissed at the disrespect.
Calvin Morrison
On 11 February 2012 17:37, Calvin Morrison mutantturkey@gmail.com wrote:
On 11 February 2012 14:25, Timothy Pearson kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
just in case someone missed it: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2012/02/having-a-look-at-the-oldnew-de...
The only hatred I see is Martin's.
We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.
Darrell
Here's a challenge to all the people here:
Find one thing you can do in TDE that you can't do in KDE4.8 and post it on this Etherpad: http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/41
Also note the fastest way to access the feature (i.e. minimum amount of mouse clicks/typing) and post how many left/right mouse clicks you used to access the feature.
If Martin wants to spread FUD we do need to counter him. :-)
Tim
After reading through Martin's blog post I am bemused.
"the project gets dominated by users and developers hating the KDE 4 technology." - well yes of course it is you. Hello Mr. Obvious! But sorry, I won't be hiring you as my private detective.
"So the users looking for Trinity as a lightweight alternative to KDE Plasma just fail to realize that five years ago they were screaming that KDE 3.5 is too heavy. " - Great, ever heard of Moore's Law? 5 years ago we had much worse technology.
"I have read quite often that Qt 3 is now maintained by Trinity. This is a pure lie." - Not a lie. Definitely not. We are not Developing it, but maintaining it by providing a central place to import patches to and keep it up to date with modern compilers. "To keep in an existing state; preserve or retain: maintain one's composure.", that is the definition of maintaining and that is what we are doing.
"The good news is that there is a sane project providing a classic Qt based desktop: Razor-Qt." - Yet our goals are very different, using Qt has nothing to do with it. That is like saying xfce should quit because gnome also uses GTK+
"It is built up on Qt 4 and has a clear project aim." - Trinity has a very clear focus. In fact it's stated on our website. On of our other goals is to improve and expand the Trinity HCI model, and to make sure our environment provides the maximum user experience for those seeking this traditional mouse and keyboard model.
Sorry, Gmail's new interface is a joke:p
And Finally,
"So my recommendation for all Trinity users is to either try again KDE Plasma 4.8 or to give razor a try."
Great, I am actually typing this on KDE4.8 machine. I was going to type this with kmail - but I cant get it working. I am finding 4.8 to be a smooth experience but not one that I want.
Trinity is no project anybody could seriously recommend and a stock KDE 3.5 is most likely a better solution than Trinity."
Howso? KDE3.5 is certainly far behind Trinity. It has been out of date and not maintained for almost 4 years. this is ridiculous.
I think there is bad karma on both sides, but I'm pretty pissed at the disrespect.
Calvin Morrison
Here's my other suggestion. If anyone here finds anything even *slightly* wrong/annoying in KDE 4.8, file bug reports at kde.org. This would include stupid design decisions like the greyscale task tray icons, which are very difficult to distinguish from one another at a glance.
I am sick and tired of "close enough" software on Linux, where the feeling of being pecked to death by ducks (i.e. having thousands of little tiny bugs or visual distractions) slows the user down tremendously, yet each little bug seems so innocuous that no one ever bothers to fix them. Guess what devs, you won't see those users complaining (not that you care anyway, right?) because they will simply go somewhere where their needs are met, such as Windows.
Oh, and if KDE closes the bug report as "WONTFIX", or moves the priority to enhancement/wishlist, please post a link to the bug report on the Etherpad I mentioned earlier.
Tim
Am Samstag, 11. Februar 2012 schrieb Timothy Pearson:
On 11 February 2012 17:37, Calvin Morrison mutantturkey@gmail.com wrote:
On 11 February 2012 14:25, Timothy Pearson kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net
wrote:
> just in case someone missed it: > http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2012/02/having-a-look-at-the-o >ldnew-desktop-environments/
The only hatred I see is Martin's.
We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.
Darrell
Here's a challenge to all the people here:
Find one thing you can do in TDE that you can't do in KDE4.8 and post it on this Etherpad: http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/41
Also note the fastest way to access the feature (i.e. minimum amount of mouse clicks/typing) and post how many left/right mouse clicks you used to access the feature.
If Martin wants to spread FUD we do need to counter him. :-)
Tim
After reading through Martin's blog post I am bemused.
"the project gets dominated by users and developers hating the KDE 4 technology." - well yes of course it is you. Hello Mr. Obvious! But sorry, I won't be hiring you as my private detective.
"So the users looking for Trinity as a lightweight alternative to KDE Plasma just fail to realize that five years ago they were screaming that KDE 3.5 is too heavy. " - Great, ever heard of Moore's Law? 5 years ago we had much worse technology.
"I have read quite often that Qt 3 is now maintained by Trinity. This is a pure lie." - Not a lie. Definitely not. We are not Developing it, but maintaining it by providing a central place to import patches to and keep it up to date with modern compilers. "To keep in an existing state; preserve or retain: maintain one's composure.", that is the definition of maintaining and that is what we are doing.
"The good news is that there is a sane project providing a classic Qt based desktop: Razor-Qt." - Yet our goals are very different, using Qt has nothing to do with it. That is like saying xfce should quit because gnome also uses GTK+
"It is built up on Qt 4 and has a clear project aim." - Trinity has a very clear focus. In fact it's stated on our website. On of our other goals is to improve and expand the Trinity HCI model, and to make sure our environment provides the maximum user experience for those seeking this traditional mouse and keyboard model.
Sorry, Gmail's new interface is a joke:p
And Finally,
"So my recommendation for all Trinity users is to either try again KDE Plasma 4.8 or to give razor a try."
Great, I am actually typing this on KDE4.8 machine. I was going to type this with kmail - but I cant get it working. I am finding 4.8 to be a smooth experience but not one that I want.
Trinity is no project anybody could seriously recommend and a stock KDE 3.5 is most likely a better solution than Trinity."
Howso? KDE3.5 is certainly far behind Trinity. It has been out of date and not maintained for almost 4 years. this is ridiculous.
I think there is bad karma on both sides, but I'm pretty pissed at the disrespect.
Calvin Morrison
Here's my other suggestion. If anyone here finds anything even *slightly* wrong/annoying in KDE 4.8, file bug reports at kde.org. This would include stupid design decisions like the greyscale task tray icons, which are very difficult to distinguish from one another at a glance.
I am sick and tired of "close enough" software on Linux, where the feeling of being pecked to death by ducks (i.e. having thousands of little tiny bugs or visual distractions) slows the user down tremendously, yet each little bug seems so innocuous that no one ever bothers to fix them. Guess what devs, you won't see those users complaining (not that you care anyway, right?) because they will simply go somewhere where their needs are met, such as Windows.
Oh, and if KDE closes the bug report as "WONTFIX", or moves the priority to enhancement/wishlist, please post a link to the bug report on the Etherpad I mentioned earlier.
Tim
I think I was banned 5 times from kde.org for doing that ... but that was a year (or 2) ago :-)
Nik
Here's my other suggestion. If anyone here finds anything even *slightly* wrong/annoying in KDE 4.8, file bug reports at kde.org. This would include stupid design decisions like the greyscale task tray icons, which are very difficult to distinguish from one another at a glance.
I am sick and tired of "close enough" software on Linux, where the feeling of being pecked to death by ducks (i.e. having thousands of little tiny bugs or visual distractions) slows the user down tremendously, yet each little bug seems so innocuous that no one ever bothers to fix them. Guess what devs, you won't see those users complaining (not that you care anyway, right?) because they will simply go somewhere where their needs are met, such as Windows.
Oh, and if KDE closes the bug report as "WONTFIX", or moves the priority to enhancement/wishlist, please post a link to the bug report on the Etherpad I mentioned earlier.
Tim
I think I was banned 5 times from kde.org for doing that ... but that was a year (or 2) ago :-)
Nik
Very, very interesting. That alone should show the KDE project's true feelings for end users that want to use a professional desktop environment instead of a cell phone social media app.
Tim
Does anyone here have the ability to test things in KDE 4.8?
I have at least one thing that did not work in 4.5 but I have no way to test it in 4.8?
Keith
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Timothy Pearson kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
just in case someone missed it: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2012/02/having-a-look-at-the-oldnew-de...
The only hatred I see is Martin's.
We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.
Darrell
Here's a challenge to all the people here:
Find one thing you can do in TDE that you can't do in KDE4.8 and post it on this Etherpad: http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/41
Also note the fastest way to access the feature (i.e. minimum amount of mouse clicks/typing) and post how many left/right mouse clicks you used to access the feature.
If Martin wants to spread FUD we do need to counter him. :-)
Tim
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:49:57 -0500 Keith Daniels keithwdaniels@gmail.com wrote:
Does anyone here have the ability to test things in KDE 4.8?
I have at least one thing that did not work in 4.5 but I have no way to test it in 4.8?
I have a KDE 4.8 Arch setup on a laptop, with working compositing/Plasma/Akonadi (FOSS radeon driver).
Keith
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Timothy Pearson kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
just in case someone missed it: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2012/02/having-a-look-at-the-oldnew-de...
The only hatred I see is Martin's.
We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.
Darrell
Here's a challenge to all the people here:
Find one thing you can do in TDE that you can't do in KDE4.8 and post it on this Etherpad: http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/41
Also note the fastest way to access the feature (i.e. minimum amount of mouse clicks/typing) and post how many left/right mouse clicks you used to access the feature.
If Martin wants to spread FUD we do need to counter him. :-)
Tim
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/dev/ammo42
Thanks,
Try this using Kate.
Open any text file and start search using regex.
enter:
^$
in the search box and see if it can find a blank line.
That is sorta basic, and that and other problems with regex in searches was the main reason I gave up on KDE-4.
uh... I don't think I have ever seen a 42 caliber device (at least in weapons <grin>).
Keith
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 3:00 PM, /dev/ammo42 mickeytintincolle@yahoo.fr wrote:
On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:49:57 -0500 Keith Daniels keithwdaniels@gmail.com wrote:
Does anyone here have the ability to test things in KDE 4.8?
I have at least one thing that did not work in 4.5 but I have no way to test it in 4.8?
I have a KDE 4.8 Arch setup on a laptop, with working compositing/Plasma/Akonadi (FOSS radeon driver).
Keith
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Timothy Pearson kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
just in case someone missed it: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2012/02/having-a-look-at-the-oldnew-de...
The only hatred I see is Martin's.
We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.
Darrell
Here's a challenge to all the people here:
Find one thing you can do in TDE that you can't do in KDE4.8 and post it on this Etherpad: http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/41
Also note the fastest way to access the feature (i.e. minimum amount of mouse clicks/typing) and post how many left/right mouse clicks you used to access the feature.
If Martin wants to spread FUD we do need to counter him. :-)
Tim
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I did some research and according to the KDE Forum Manager at:
the problem with ^$ was fixed in 4.6 beta 2 (about a year ago... it took them from vs 4.0 to 4.6 to fix that?????)
The problem with regular expression searches involving \n was fixed in 4.5.2.
So even though it took them several years they say they fixed it.
Keith
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Keith Daniels keithwdaniels@gmail.com wrote:
/dev/ammo42
Thanks,
Try this using Kate.
Open any text file and start search using regex.
enter:
^$
in the search box and see if it can find a blank line.
That is sorta basic, and that and other problems with regex in searches was the main reason I gave up on KDE-4.
uh... I don't think I have ever seen a 42 caliber device (at least in weapons <grin>).
Keith
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 3:00 PM, /dev/ammo42 mickeytintincolle@yahoo.fr wrote:
On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:49:57 -0500 Keith Daniels keithwdaniels@gmail.com wrote:
Does anyone here have the ability to test things in KDE 4.8?
I have at least one thing that did not work in 4.5 but I have no way to test it in 4.8?
I have a KDE 4.8 Arch setup on a laptop, with working compositing/Plasma/Akonadi (FOSS radeon driver).
Keith
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Timothy Pearson kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
just in case someone missed it: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2012/02/having-a-look-at-the-oldnew-de...
The only hatred I see is Martin's.
We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.
Darrell
Here's a challenge to all the people here:
Find one thing you can do in TDE that you can't do in KDE4.8 and post it on this Etherpad: http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/41
Also note the fastest way to access the feature (i.e. minimum amount of mouse clicks/typing) and post how many left/right mouse clicks you used to access the feature.
If Martin wants to spread FUD we do need to counter him. :-)
Tim
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-- Latin America will never be stable as long as the US has it's drug mania (both for and against) and keeps trying to change the drug habits of its own citizens by shooting people in other countries."
Keith Daniels 1996
On Saturday 11 February 2012 23:10:01 Timothy Pearson wrote:
Darrell
Here's a challenge to all the people here:
Find one thing you can do in TDE that you can't do in KDE4.8 and post it on this Etherpad: http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/41
Also note the fastest way to access the feature (i.e. minimum amount of mouse clicks/typing) and post how many left/right mouse clicks you used to access the feature.
If Martin wants to spread FUD we do need to counter him. :-)
You may be interested to add this bugreport to the list: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=245874
I.e. the removal of spatial mode from file manager. While the checkbox still remains as a heritage from KDE3, the actual code has been removed and the checkbox does not affect anything.
On Saturday 11 February 2012 23:10:01 Timothy Pearson wrote:
Darrell
Here's a challenge to all the people here:
Find one thing you can do in TDE that you can't do in KDE4.8 and post it on this Etherpad: http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/41
Also note the fastest way to access the feature (i.e. minimum amount of mouse clicks/typing) and post how many left/right mouse clicks you used to access the feature.
If Martin wants to spread FUD we do need to counter him. :-)
You may be interested to add this bugreport to the list: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=245874
I.e. the removal of spatial mode from file manager. While the checkbox still remains as a heritage from KDE3, the actual code has been removed and the checkbox does not affect anything.
Added. Thanks for your input. :-)
Tim
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