14 Dec
2011
14 Dec
'11
1:54 p.m.
This article surfaced on our IRC channel through <NachPlus>
<NachPlus>I don't know if this is of interest
to anyone, but an article came out today which praises the KDE 3.5 user interface:
http://insanecoding.blogspot.com/2011/12/progression-and-regression-of-desk…
I read whole thing and this is the guy that seems to understand why we
are keeping trinity alive. But I didn\t like the last paragraph. It
seems that he blames re-branding of trinity. I think we should explain
clearly why this was done either in the about page or in the FAQ. I
already added question about this to the FAQ Draft in etherpad, but
honestly, I didn't really know how to ask this kind of thing, nor
explain this... This kind of criticism isn't really constructive, and
we should have all the tools we need to fight against any kind of
un-constructive, and unreasonable blaming either in the faq or in the
about page IMO.
14 Dec
14 Dec
2:10 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Praises and a little disappointment[?] blog entry.
I read whole thing and this is the guy that seems to
understand why we
are keeping trinity alive. But I didn\t like the last paragraph. It
seems that he blames re-branding of trinity. I think we should explain
clearly why this was done either in the about page or in the FAQ. I
already added question about this to the FAQ Draft in etherpad, but
honestly, I didn't really know how to ask this kind of thing, nor
explain this... This kind of criticism isn't really constructive, and
we should have all the tools we need to fight against any kind of
un-constructive, and unreasonable blaming either in the faq or in the
about page IMO.
It wouldn't hurt to have a bit more informative landing page to
clarify that Trinity is referring to KDE3 (I assume) and not
referring to religion. I can kind of understand the misunderstanding,
although it never occurred to me that Trinity would be a "Catholic"
desktop, or anything like that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity
...
The Christian doctrine of the Trinity defines God as three divine
persons (Greek: ὑποστάσεις):[1] the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ),
and the Holy Spirit.
....
- Nigel
2:44 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Praises and a little disappointment[?] blog entry.
2011/12/14 Nigel Stewart <nigels.com(a)gmail.com>om>:
I knew trinity is a christian doctrine, but I've never mate the
connection. Maybe I'm not religious enough? (:P)
I read whole
thing and this is the guy that seems to understand why we
are keeping trinity alive. But I didn\t like the last paragraph. It
seems that he blames re-branding of trinity. I think we should explain
clearly why this was done either in the about page or in the FAQ. I
already added question about this to the FAQ Draft in etherpad, but
honestly, I didn't really know how to ask this kind of thing, nor
explain this... This kind of criticism isn't really constructive, and
we should have all the tools we need to fight against any kind of
un-constructive, and unreasonable blaming either in the faq or in the
about page IMO.
It wouldn't hurt to have a bit more informative landing page to
clarify that Trinity is referring to KDE3 (I assume) and not
referring to religion. I can kind of understand the misunderstanding,
although it never occurred to me that Trinity would be a "Catholic"
desktop, or anything like that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity
...
The Christian doctrine of the Trinity defines God as three divine
persons (Greek: ὑποστάσεις):[1] the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ),
and the Holy Spirit.
....
- Nigel
3:19 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Praises and a little disappointment[?] blog entry.
2011/12/14 L0ner sh4dou <sh4dou(a)gmail.com>om>:
2011/12/14 Nigel Stewart
<nigels.com(a)gmail.com>om>:
I knew trinity is a christian doctrine, but I've never mate the
connection. Maybe I'm not religious enough? (:P)
A little add-on, sice I'm following (and participating) in discussion
on authors blog. It's author's comment in response of mine in which I
explained that trinity is reference to kde version 3.
"I didn't notice anything at first about the name either. But I
recently heard from a friend of mine who sets up computers for people;
that some Rabbi hired him to setup his computer with a free operating
system and office suite. He offered him a choice of desktops and
showed them off, and when he mentioned Trinity Desktop, the Rabbi said
no way was he sticking a Christian desktop on his computer. The name
is hurting potential market share."
I read
whole thing and this is the guy that seems to understand why we
are keeping trinity alive. But I didn\t like the last paragraph. It
seems that he blames re-branding of trinity. I think we should explain
clearly why this was done either in the about page or in the FAQ. I
already added question about this to the FAQ Draft in etherpad, but
honestly, I didn't really know how to ask this kind of thing, nor
explain this... This kind of criticism isn't really constructive, and
we should have all the tools we need to fight against any kind of
un-constructive, and unreasonable blaming either in the faq or in the
about page IMO.
It wouldn't hurt to have a bit more informative landing page to
clarify that Trinity is referring to KDE3 (I assume) and not
referring to religion. I can kind of understand the misunderstanding,
although it never occurred to me that Trinity would be a "Catholic"
desktop, or anything like that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity
...
The Christian doctrine of the Trinity defines God as three divine
persons (Greek: ὑποστάσεις):[1] the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ),
and the Holy Spirit.
....
- Nigel
5:22 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Praises and a little disappointment[?] blog entry.
2011/12/15 L0ner sh4dou <sh4dou(a)gmail.com>om>:
2011/12/14 L0ner sh4dou <sh4dou(a)gmail.com>om>:
Another forward form blog:
--------------------SNIP---------------
insane coder said...
Thank you l0ner.
I looked at the mailing list and saw someone propose using a
Triskelion as a logo. Unfortunately, that's also seen as a religious
symbol by some.
I'm not a major marketing person, but I don't know if *3* is what
should be stressed either, as someone will always think of it as less
than 4.
If re-branding is needed to differentiate from KDE, perhaps an
entirely different route should be taken, something completely
neutral.
Don't focus on the negative, "we're an older version", focus on the
positives. Use names and symbols that convey this is the desktop that
does things the way you want.
Remember Microsoft's campaign: "Where do you want to go today?"
How about a computer which tells a user: "How can I serve you?", "How
can I assist you?", or the classic WarCraft 2 line: "Your command
master?"
Imagine a logo of a person standing on a computer. Or perhaps
something generic and peaceful like a waterfall.
December 14, 2011 4:17 PM
insane coder said...
Thinking more about it don't be aggressive. Perhaps something which
shows the user and computers as friends, or shaking hands or
something.
A triangle unfortunately also has a religious connotation. See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_Providence
December 14, 2011 4:21 PM
--------------------SNIP---------------
Those are good observations IMO.
2011/12/14 Nigel Stewart
<nigels.com(a)gmail.com>om>:
I knew trinity is a christian doctrine, but I've never mate the
connection. Maybe I'm not religious enough? (:P)
A little add-on, sice I'm following (and participating) in discussion
on authors blog. It's author's comment in response of mine in which I
explained that trinity is reference to kde version 3.
"I didn't notice anything at first about the name either. But I
recently heard from a friend of mine who sets up computers for people;
that some Rabbi hired him to setup his computer with a free operating
system and office suite. He offered him a choice of desktops and
showed them off, and when he mentioned Trinity Desktop, the Rabbi said
no way was he sticking a Christian desktop on his computer. The name
is hurting potential market share." I read
whole thing and this is the guy that seems to understand why we
are keeping trinity alive. But I didn\t like the last paragraph. It
seems that he blames re-branding of trinity. I think we should explain
clearly why this was done either in the about page or in the FAQ. I
already added question about this to the FAQ Draft in etherpad, but
honestly, I didn't really know how to ask this kind of thing, nor
explain this... This kind of criticism isn't really constructive, and
we should have all the tools we need to fight against any kind of
un-constructive, and unreasonable blaming either in the faq or in the
about page IMO.
It wouldn't hurt to have a bit more informative landing page to
clarify that Trinity is referring to KDE3 (I assume) and not
referring to religion. I can kind of understand the misunderstanding,
although it never occurred to me that Trinity would be a "Catholic"
desktop, or anything like that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity
...
The Christian doctrine of the Trinity defines God as three divine
persons (Greek: ὑποστάσεις):[1] the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ),
and the Holy Spirit.
....
- Nigel
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