Am 24.05.2014 02:21, schrieb Greg Madden: I just changed the lines in sources.list. and updated. After that i had to manually start tdm. Then i kicked kdm-trinity*. And nothing changed (the description says its only a transitional package). I had to manually start tdm anyway. What i also want is not only the solution, but to know where the problem is. Yours Werner

Am 24.05.2014 10:39, schrieb Greg Madden: There is a link in /etc/init.d: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Mai 21 08:17 /etc/init.d/tdm-trinity -> /lib/init/upstart-job ubuntu uses upstart and the tdm-trinity.conf in /etc/init looks ok. cat /etc/init/tdm-trinity.conf: <code> # tdm-trinity - TDE Display Manager # # The display manager service manages the X servers running on the # system, providing login and auto-login services description "TDE Display Manager" author "Richard Johnson and Timothy Pearson" start on ((filesystem and runlevel [!06] and started dbus and stopped udevtrigger and (drm-device-added card0 PRIMARY_DEVICE_FOR_DISPLAY=1 or stopped udev-fallback-graphics)) or runlevel PREVLEVEL=S) stop on runlevel [016] emits login-session-start emits desktop-session-start emits desktop-shutdown script if [ -n "$UPSTART_EVENTS" ] then [ ! -f /etc/X11/default-display-manager -o "$(cat /etc/X11 /default-display-manager 2>/dev/null)" = "/opt/trinity/bin/tdm" ] || { stop; exit 0; } # Since we have no plymouth integration to take over the VT we simply # quit plymouth all the time. Note that sleeping appears necessary # as the VT freeing is somewhat delayed and TDM would otherwise go # to configured KVT+1 (if plymouth was using it). $(plymouth --quit && plymouth --wait && sleep 1) || : if [ "$RUNLEVEL" = S -o "$RUNLEVEL" = 1 ] then # Single-user mode exit 0 fi fi if [ -r /etc/default/locale ]; then . /etc/default/locale export LANG LANGUAGE elif [ -r /etc/environment ]; then . /etc/environment export LANG LANGUAGE fi TDEDIRS=/opt/trinity/ PATH=/opt/trinity/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin initctl emit starting-dm DM=tdm-trinity exec /opt/trinity/bin/tdm end script post-stop script if [ "$UPSTART_STOP_EVENTS" = runlevel ]; then initctl emit desktop-shutdown fi end script </code> cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager: <code> /opt/trinity/bin/tdm </code>

Am 24.05.2014 20:23, schrieb Greg Madden: Sorry, didn't make it clear. I used the ubuntu 'Update Manager' (GUI). so 1. change line in /etc/apt/sources.list 2. upgrade with GUI in X. remarks on 2.: it's probably safer and more reliable to use apt-get, but i can and will live with the outcome of the GUI just to see what does work and what does not. For upgrading i always use the Update Manager and for installation and removing packages i use synaptic, which works for me by now. Back to the tdm-issue. Puzzeled by the fact that the first call to upstart with tdm-trinity (should do automatic) doesn't succed and it's neccesary to start it manually, i came to the believe it could be a race-condition. So i add the following line: 'echo "UPSTART_EVENTS => $UPSTART_EVENTS" > /root/tdm_init.log' just to see whats inside the UPSTART_EVENTS-arg. The result was it is running directly without do something manually. I added that line after the if-part: if [ -n "$UPSTART_EVENTS" ] ... fi cat /root/tdm_init.log gives: UPSTART_EVENTS => filesystem runlevel started stopped stopped To make the upgrade more reliable i think this should be investigated. just my 2 cents Werner