11 Dec
2017
11 Dec
'17
7:54 p.m.
On Sunday 10 December 2017, Jim wrote:
On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 19:21 (-0800), Vincent Reher
wrote:
Hi Jim,
I think the Firefox I am using was built to utilize GTK+-3.x. If that is correct, I did
not see any issues with it despite the fact that the GDK_SCALE environment variable is not
set.
I am curious about one thing you mentioned: are actually using TDE (the desktop
environment per se) with a window manager other than twin? If so, I would be interested
to know how that worked out for you as I had noted that alternative window managers can be
configured. That might solve at least the "microscopic window resizing arrows"
part of the problem.
Thanks,
Vince
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Hello TDE Developers,
I am not a TDE developer, but if you are willing to hear from random
people on this olist...
I recently purchased a Dell XPS15 laptop for my
daughter and before
I turn it over to her, I am experimenting to see what must be done
to make it usable under Linux/TDE for those with no better than
normal eyesight. Per EDID, the laptop's native screen resolution is
3840 x 2160 and its physical screen dimensions are 346 x 194mm
(~15.6" diagonal). My objective is to run the laptop at native
resolution both inside and outside of X (no re-scaling).
I am using a macbook pro
(2880x1800 on a 15" screen) and a 4K 27"
monitor, and I went through this a while back.
Having said that, while I use various TDE programs, I don't use TDE's
window manager, so this advice may not work for you.
<snip>
Of course, if HiDPI issues have already been
addressed by others in
the post R14.0.4 source code, that would be great.
I solved a lot of problems by putting
export GDK_SCALE=2
in my ~/.xprofile, which gets read by /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession,
/etc/tde/tdm/Xsession and /etc/kde/kdm/Xsession (at least on my
system) and helps a lot of GTK3 programs look reasonable.
It shouldn't hurt (too much) to give this a try. I'd be interested in
knowing how it works out.
It is too bad that so many software designers assume that screen
resolutions would be 90 - 100 DPI for all time.
Cheers.
Jim
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11 Dec
11 Dec
8:05 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] TDE on dense small screens
Am Montag, 11. Dezember 2017 schrieb Vincent Reher:
On Sunday 10 December 2017, Jim wrote:
If you are adressing a GTK appication here, then the "microscopic window resizing
arrows" is comming from some genuis in GNOME. You can search the mailing list for my
adventures. Anyway, this might help (or not any more, as GNOME "matures"):
# der GNOME W$&"§%$§:
# GTK3: ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini
$ dconf write /org/gnome/desktop/interface/cursor-size 32
# GTK2: ~/.gtkrc-2.0
$ lxappereance
# ~/.gtkrc-2.0
gtk-cursor-theme-size=48
On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 19:21 (-0800), Vincent
Reher wrote:
Hi Jim,
I think the Firefox I am using was built to utilize GTK+-3.x. If that is correct, I did
not see any issues with it despite the fact that the GDK_SCALE environment variable is not
set.
I am curious about one thing you mentioned: are actually using TDE (the desktop
environment per se) with a window manager other than twin? If so, I would be interested
to know how that worked out for you as I had noted that alternative window managers can be
configured. That might solve at least the "microscopic window resizing arrows"
part of the problem. Hello TDE Developers,
I am not a TDE developer, but if you are willing to hear from random
people on this olist...
I recently purchased a Dell XPS15 laptop for my
daughter and before
I turn it over to her, I am experimenting to see what must be done
to make it usable under Linux/TDE for those with no better than
normal eyesight. Per EDID, the laptop's native screen resolution is
3840 x 2160 and its physical screen dimensions are 346 x 194mm
(~15.6" diagonal). My objective is to run the laptop at native
resolution both inside and outside of X (no re-scaling).
I am using a macbook pro
(2880x1800 on a 15" screen) and a 4K 27"
monitor, and I went through this a while back.
Having said that, while I use various TDE programs, I don't use TDE's
window manager, so this advice may not work for you.
<snip>
Of course, if HiDPI issues have already been
addressed by others in
the post R14.0.4 source code, that would be great.
I solved a lot of problems by putting
export GDK_SCALE=2
in my ~/.xprofile, which gets read by /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession,
/etc/tde/tdm/Xsession and /etc/kde/kdm/Xsession (at least on my
system) and helps a lot of GTK3 programs look reasonable.
It shouldn't hurt (too much) to give this a try. I'd be interested in
knowing how it works out.
It is too bad that so many software designers assume that screen
resolutions would be 90 - 100 DPI for all time.
Cheers.
Jim
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Vince
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12 Dec
12 Dec
2:20 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] TDE on dense small screens
On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 11:54 (-0800), Vincent Reher wrote:
On Sunday 10 December 2017, Jim wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 19:21 (-0800), Vincent Reher wrote:
<snip>
>> Of course, if HiDPI issues have already been
addressed by others in
>> the post R14.0.4 source code, that would be great.
> I solved a lot of problems by putting
> export GDK_SCALE=2
> in my ~/.xprofile, which gets read by
/etc/X11/xdm/Xsession,
> /etc/tde/tdm/Xsession and /etc/kde/kdm/Xsession (at least on my
> system) and helps a lot of GTK3 programs look reasonable.
> It shouldn't hurt (too much) to give this a
try. I'd be interested in
> knowing how it works out.
Hi Jim,
I think the Firefox I am using was built to utilize
GTK+-3.x. If
that is correct, I did not see any issues with it despite the fact
that the GDK_SCALE environment variable is not set.
One of the frustrations I had when getting things configured for HiDPI
was that there was no unified thinking, so I had to use a bunch of
different things to get things working. At this point I can't
remember which subset of "everything" that GDK_SCALE=2 helped, but
my notes indicate that (my attempts to) set the DPI with dconf-editor
had no positive effect on anything I tried.
I am curious about one thing you mentioned: are
actually using TDE
(the desktop environment per se) with a window manager other than
twin? If so, I would be interested to know how that worked out for
you as I had noted that alternative window managers can be
configured. That might solve at least the "microscopic window
resizing arrows" part of the problem.
I don't think you can say I am using
TDE with a different window
manager. I am using another window manager and use some TDE programs,
and so I try to keep track of what is going on in the TDE world.
(Perhaps for me the primary TDE program I use is korganizer; the KDE4
version won't run without starting up some other "services" which I
don't want running, and I have yet to see another calendar program for
Linux with the same (or better) feature set.)
When I start up korganizer it starts some of the TDE desktop
environment "services", but I don't know if anyone would consider me
to be using TDE as an "environment". Perhaps this is a philosophical
issue.
Cheers.
Jim
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