tde-users April 2025

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Kdesktop runaway
by Christian Schmitz 24 May '25

24 May '25

Hi everyone: I have a computer that i didnt turn off, simply put in suspend mode. But i found that sometimes ( i dont know when or why) kdesktop go away. The symptoms are: - the fan speed up - two KDESKTOP process take 80% of cpu each one, - The icons on desktop are not clikable anymore - the shutdown button on first call open the dialog and i can make click on suspend - the shutdown button on second call do nothing. Pressing ALT+CRL+BAKSPACE i go to login and everyting works again... for one hour, 1 day or one week (randomly) I have opensuse tumbleweed. Best Regards to all Christian Be Free, Be Linux

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[14.1.4] traditional non-theme TDM theme in in Focal is not used
by Felix Miata 30 Apr '25

30 Apr '25

This is my third focal upgrade. The first two went OK, and also Jammy, Noble, and the Debians on same PC. What could be making this one different re TDM theming? .xsession-errors: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pVXNgHFRkP/ https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pVXNgHFRkP/plain/ (72k) # grep RETT /etc/os-release PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu 20.04.6 LTS" # ls -gGh /etc/trinity/tdm/tdmrc* -rw-r--r-- 1 23K Feb 3 2022 /etc/trinity/tdm/tdmrc # grep -A4 -i etheme= /etc/trinity/tdm/tdmrc UseTheme=false # The theme to use for the greeter. Can point to either a directory or an XML # file. # Default is "" Theme= # grep -i font= /etc/trinity/tdm/tdmrc GreetFont=Sans-Serif,24,-1,5,75,0,0,0,0,0 StdFont=Sans-Serif,16,5,0,50,0 FailFont=Sans-Serif,18,5,0,75,0 # grep -i wroot /etc/trinity/tdm/tdmrc AllowRootLogin=true # Everything in the current login greeter is mousetype, wrapped inside an image lacking traditional borders, and root login is denied. # Dq trinity dpkg-query -l ii gtk3-tqt-engine-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 GTK3 theme engine for TDE ii gtk-qt-engine-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 theme engine using Qt for GTK+ 2.x and Trinity ii kappfinder-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 non-TDE application finder for TDE ii kate-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 advanced text editor for TDE ii kcontrol-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 control center for TDE ii kdesktop-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 miscellaneous binaries and files for the Trinity desktop ii kfind-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 file-find utility for TDE ii khelpcenter-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 help center for TDE ii kicker-applets-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 applets for Kicker, the Trinity panel ii kicker-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 desktop panel for TDE ii klipper-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 clipboard utility for Trinity ii kmenuedit-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 menu editor for TDE ii kmix-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 sound mixer applet for Trinity ii konq-plugins-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 plugins for Konqueror, the Trinity file/web/doc browser ii konqueror-nsplugins-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 Netscape plugin support for Konqueror ii konqueror-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 TDE's advanced file manager, web browser and document viewer ii konsole-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 X terminal emulator for TDE ii kpager-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 desktop pager for TDE ii kpersonalizer-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 installation personalizer for TDE ii ksmserver-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 session manager for TDE ii ksnapshot-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 screenshot utility for Trinity ii ksplash-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 the TDE splash screen ii ksvg-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 SVG viewer for Trinity ii ksysguardd-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 system guard daemon for TDE ii ksysguard-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 system guard for TDE ii ktip-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 useful tips for TDE ii kubuntu-default-settings-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 all Default settings and artwork for the Ubuntu Trinity desktop ii libarts1c2a-trinity:amd64 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 aRts sound system core components ii libartsc0-trinity:amd64 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 aRts sound system C support library ii libkcddb1-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 CDDB library for Trinity ii libkonq4-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 core libraries for Konqueror ii libtdeldap-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 LDAP interface library for TDE ii libtqt3-integration-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 Integration library between TQt3 and TDE ii tdebase-data-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 all shared data files for the TDE base module ii tdebase-runtime-data-common-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 all Shared common files for Trinity and KDE4 ii tdebase-tdeio-plugins-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 core I/O slaves for TDE ii tdebase-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 all base components from the official TDE release ii tdebase-trinity-bin 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 core binaries for the TDE base module ii tdelibs14-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 core libraries and binaries for all TDE applications ii tdelibs-data-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 all core shared data for all TDE applications ii tdemultimedia-tdeio-plugins-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 enables the browsing of audio CDs under Konqueror ii tdepasswd-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 password changer for TDE ii tdeprint-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 print system for TDE ii tdmtheme-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 theme manager for TDM [Trinity] ii tdm-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 X display manager for TDE ii trinity-keyring 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 all GnuPG keys of the Trinity Desktop Environment repository ii twin-trinity 4:14.1.4-0ubuntu20.04.0+0 amd64 the TDE window manager # journalctl -b --no-host | grep -C9 tdm Apr 29 13:50:23 kernel: raid6: using avx2x2 recovery algorithm Apr 29 13:50:23 kernel: async_tx: api initialized (async) Apr 29 13:50:23 kernel: xor: automatically using best checksumming function avx Apr 29 13:50:23 kernel: EXT4-fs (nvme0n1p17): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null) Apr 29 13:50:23 systemd[1]: RTC configured in localtime, applying delta of -240 minutes to system time. Apr 29 13:50:23 systemd[1]: Inserted module 'autofs4' Apr 29 13:50:23 systemd[1]: systemd 245.4-4ubuntu3.24 running in system mode. (+PAM +AUDIT +SELINUX +IMA +APPARMOR +SMACK +SYSVINIT +UTMP +LIBCRYPTSETUP +GCRYPT +GNUTLS +ACL +XZ +LZ4 +SECCOMP +BLKID +ELFUTILS +KMOD +IDN2 -IDN +PCRE2 default-hierarchy=hybrid) Apr 29 13:50:23 systemd[1]: Detected architecture x86-64. Apr 29 13:50:23 systemd[1]: Set hostname to <ab250>. Apr 29 13:50:23 systemd-sysv-generator[253]: stat() failed on /etc/init.d/tdm-trinity, ignoring: No such file or directory Apr 29 13:50:23 systemd[1]: Binding to IPv6 address not available since kernel does not support IPv6. Apr 29 13:50:23 systemd[1]: Binding to IPv6 address not available since kernel does not support IPv6. Apr 29 13:50:23 systemd[1]: Configuration file /run/systemd/system/netplan-ovs-cleanup.service is marked world-inaccessible. This has no effect as configuration data is accessible via APIs without restrictions. Proceeding anyway. Apr 29 13:50:23 systemd[1]: Created slice system-modprobe.slice. Apr 29 13:50:23 systemd[1]: Created slice system-systemd\x2dfsck.slice. Apr 29 13:50:23 systemd[1]: Created slice User and Session Slice. Apr 29 13:50:23 systemd[1]: Started Dispatch Password Requests to Console Directory Watch. Apr 29 13:50:23 systemd[1]: Started Forward Password Requests to Wall Directory Watch. Apr 29 13:50:23 systemd[1]: Set up automount Arbitrary Executable File Formats File System Automount Point. -- Apr 29 13:50:25 systemd[1]: Finished NFS server and services. Apr 29 13:50:25 systemd[1]: Startup finished in 13.332s (firmware) + 22.288s (loader) + 2.160s (kernel) + 2.347s (userspace) = 40.128s. Apr 29 13:50:25 kernel: NFSD: Using UMH upcall client tracking operations. Apr 29 13:50:25 kernel: NFSD: starting 90-second grace period (net f0000098) Apr 29 13:50:25 set-cpufreq[525]: Setting powersave scheduler for all CPUs Apr 29 13:50:25 systemd[1]: ondemand.service: Succeeded. Apr 29 13:50:25 systemd[1]: dmesg.service: Succeeded. Apr 29 13:50:25 ntpd[544]: error resolving pool 0.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org: Temporary failure in name resolution (-3) Apr 29 13:50:26 ntpd[544]: error resolving pool 1.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org: Temporary failure in name resolution (-3) Apr 29 13:50:26 dbus-daemon[500]: [system] Activating service name='org.trinitydesktop.hardwarecontrol' requested by ':1.7' (uid=0 pid=759 comm="/opt/trinity/bin/tdm_greet " label="unconfined") (using servicehelper) Apr 29 13:50:26 org.trinitydesktop.hardwarecontrol[785]: [tde_dbus_hardwarecontrol] Listening... Apr 29 13:50:26 dbus-daemon[500]: [system] Successfully activated service 'org.trinitydesktop.hardwarecontrol' Apr 29 13:50:26 org.trinitydesktop.hardwarecontrol[785]: [tde_dbus_hardwarecontrol] Name acquired: :1.8 Apr 29 13:50:27 ntpd[544]: error resolving pool 2.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org: Temporary failure in name resolution (-3) Apr 29 13:50:27 systemd-networkd[324]: eth0: Gained carrier Apr 29 13:50:27 kernel: e1000e: eth0 NIC Link is Up 1000 Mbps Full Duplex, Flow Control: Rx/Tx Apr 29 13:50:27 org.trinitydesktop.hardwarecontrol[785]: [tde_dbus_hardwarecontrol] Name acquired: org.trinitydesktop.hardwarecontrol Apr 29 13:50:28 ntpd[544]: Soliciting pool server 23.142.248.9 Apr 29 13:50:29 ntpd[544]: Listen normally on 2 eth0 192.168.0.125:123 -- Apr 29 13:51:35 ntpd[544]: Soliciting pool server 23.186.168.130 Apr 29 13:51:35 ntpd[544]: Soliciting pool server 148.113.194.34 Apr 29 13:51:36 ntpd[544]: Soliciting pool server 23.186.168.127 Apr 29 13:51:36 ntpd[544]: Soliciting pool server 144.202.66.214 Apr 29 13:51:36 ntpd[544]: Soliciting pool server 23.186.168.126 Apr 29 13:51:38 ntpd[544]: receive: Unexpected origin timestamp 0xebbb902a.73dbc601 does not match aorg 0000000000.00000000 from server(a)24.144.88.190 xmt 0xebbb902a.c76a0261 Apr 29 13:51:38 ntpd[544]: receive: Unexpected origin timestamp 0xebbb902a.73dc9faa does not match aorg 0000000000.00000000 from server(a)185.125.190.56 xmt 0xebbb902a.cf2af80a Apr 29 13:51:38 ntpd[544]: receive: Unexpected origin timestamp 0xebbb902a.73da25bf does not match aorg 0000000000.00000000 from server(a)66.118.230.14 xmt 0xebbb902a.d81bbc95 Apr 29 13:54:45 systemd[1]: Stopping Trinity Display Manager... Apr 29 13:54:46 systemd[1]: tdm.service: Succeeded. Apr 29 13:54:46 systemd[1]: Stopped Trinity Display Manager. Apr 29 13:54:46 systemd[1]: Starting Trinity Display Manager... Apr 29 13:54:46 systemd[1]: Started Trinity Display Manager. # -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

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TDE R14.1.4 released, new target started…
by Slávek Banko 30 Apr '25

30 Apr '25

Hi all, after R14.1.4 was released, the window for the development of R14.1.5 has already been opened. The first pull-requests have already been merged, new translations are merged, the first builds of the packages will be started soon. If you used the Preliminary Stable Builds repository only temporarily, and you prefer to stick on the official final release, it is now the best time to switch to the official repository. The packages in both repositories are identical for some time, so it is smooth to change the apt source if you want. Otherwise, we will be happy if you help us in testing the upcoming release. Publishing the first R14.1.5 preliminary packages I suppose on 11 May. You can stay up to date on TDE news and development by following our Mastodon channel https://floss.social/@tde If you can, please help supporting the project with a donation. https://www.trinitydesktop.org/donate.php Thank you for your support! Cheers Slávek --

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Donating
by Darrell Anderson 28 Apr '25

28 Apr '25

Is there a way to donate with a pre-paid non-reloadable visa card? If yes, how? Thanks.

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TDE R14.1.4 released!
by Slávek Banko 28 Apr '25

28 Apr '25

Hi all, for those who are not subscribed to tde-announcements, you might be interested in information about the release of R14.1.4: https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/announcements@trin… https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Release_Notes_For_R14.1.4 Cheers Slávek --

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4:14.1.4-0debian12 just released?
by Michael 28 Apr '25

28 Apr '25

I can't find any news on trinitydesktop.org about 4:14.1.4 being release, but apt is trying to upgrade from 1.3 to 1.4. Random TDE package: # apt-cache policy tdebase-trinity tdebase-trinity: Installed: 4:14.1.3-0debian12.0.0+0 Candidate: 4:14.1.4-0debian12.0.0+0 Version table: 4:14.1.4-0debian12.0.0+0 500 500 http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-r14.1.x bookworm/main amd64 Packages 500 http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-r14.1.x bookworm/main i386 Packages *** 4:14.1.3-0debian12.0.0+0 100 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status Is 1.4 okay to install, or is this a 'bad' thing where someone has hijacked the mirrors? Best, Michael Refs: The following packages will be upgraded: akregator-trinity amor-trinity ark-trinity arts-trinity artsbuilder-trinity atlantik-trinity atlantikdesigner-trinity {snip} tdewallpapers-trinity tdewebdev-trinity trinity-keyring twin-trinity twin4-trinity 276 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)" System: Host: anon Kernel: 6.1.0-33-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Trinity v: R14.1.3 Distro: MX-23.6_x64 Libretto Jan 12 2025

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Downloading all TDE packages
by Darrell Anderson 27 Apr '25

27 Apr '25

A few days ago I installed Devuan Daedalus in a VM and downloaded the TDE 14.1.3 mega package 'tde-trinity'. I presumed that "mega" package downloaded everything TDE, but seems to be only individual packages split from the core package group. Missing from my effort are packages such as amarok, koffice, themes, etc. I tried 'apt search trinity' but that is a messy output. Next I tried 'apt-cache search trinity | grep -v 18n'. That produced a list of 786 packages. Clipping the output produces provided me only package names. I shrugged, inhaled, and launched 'for pkg in $(apt-cache search trinity | grep -v i18n | sed 's| - .*||'); do apt install -y $pkg; done'. Seemed to succeed but raised a simple question. Is there a short-hand method to download everything TDE?

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Recognizing phone
by Darrell Anderson 24 Apr '25

24 Apr '25

I have a flip phone that is recognized immediately (lsusb) but does not appear anywhere in TDE that I can see. I receive popups or desktop icons in KDE and Xfce. I have enabled KControl->Desktop->Behavior->Device Icons->Show Device Icons. There are few devices in that list not enabled, but I do not see anything in Konqueror Storage Devices. My first presumption is something not configured correctly here or packages not compiled correctly. What is fully required to get TDE to recognize the phone? Thanks.

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Daily digest of patches
by Darrell Anderson 23 Apr '25

23 Apr '25

Is there a way to download a daily digest (list) of patches? https://www.trinitydesktop.org/patches/ Thanks.

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TDE full install (everything and the kitchen sink)
by Darrell Anderson 23 Apr '25

23 Apr '25

I finally created a Devuan VM. I installed KDE, Xfce, MATE, Cinnamon. Everything is updated and seems to be working fine. I populated apt sources.list per the wiki and downloaded the TDE signing key. When I run the following command: apt install tde-trinity I receive the message: The following packages will be REMOVED: desktop-base gnome-control-center I did not install the GNOME desktop and don't care about gnome-control-center (probably a Cinnamon requirement). I do not know what removing desktop-base will do. Running "apt show desktop-base" reveals a description of "common files for the Devuan Desktop." Is auto removing desktop-base safe? I want to retain all of the other desktop environments to see how TDE interacts in a mixed environment. Second, I want to install every doggone TDE package possible. I never have experienced a full TDE and I want to see how everything functions. Running "apt search trinity" finds many packages. I don't know if "apt install tde-trinity" installs everything. My Debian Fu is horribly rusty and could use help proceeding. Thanks.

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