openSUSE 13.1 is over 7 months old, yet not listed on https://www.trinitydesktop.org/ .
When will TDE be available for it? Why is it missing?
On Thursday 10 July 2014 22:44:37 Felix Miata wrote:
openSUSE 13.1 is over 7 months old, yet not listed on https://www.trinitydesktop.org/ .
When will TDE be available for it? Why is it missing?
Maybe because the KDE3 is supported by OpenSUSE oficially?
On 2014-07-10 22:50 (GMT+0300) Serghei Amelian composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
openSUSE 13.1 is over 7 months old, yet not listed on https://www.trinitydesktop.org/ .
When will TDE be available for it? Why is it missing?
Maybe because the KDE3 is supported by OpenSUSE oficially?
Why should that matter when the 6 months out of support release 12.2 is still provided, and 13.1 is scheduled to replace 11.4 as the extended support release before the year is out?
On 2014-07-10 12:56 (GMT-0700) Mark S Bilk composed:
TDE isn't so much needed (unless some of the improvements are wanted).
Why would there be any not wanted? It seems like this continued release lag would be inducement to continue an unfortunate duplication of effort keeping KDE3 alive that would seem better spent on TDE. AFAICT, KDE3 on openSUSE is a one person show. Would that one contributor give up or otherwise disappear, KDE would really be stone dead, as the KDE4 people would like, on the "current" openSUSE release.
I can't justify spending time to provide any input to the TDE development cycle because 12.2 is absolutely too old, and 12.3 is too old to be bothered wasting time on 5 months from EOL and 7 months after the unleashing of its successor.
Also, who would bother spending to try to tell if one is preferable to the other without being able to run both on a long-current release instead of a relative antique?
I can certainly live without TDE personally, having gotten by on KDE3 since its birth, but it puzzles me the preference of the deceased 12.2 over current 13.1 in the TDE repos. It's disappointing to not be able to know what I may be missing without spending a dubiously worthwhile effort to find out.
Also FWIW, openSUSE Factory is shaping up as a rolling release, meaning even though 13.1 is current and will be the semi-official LTS before very long, proportionally more openSUSE users will surely be using the new Factory as a latest/current release instead of the official latest, and thus shut out of TDE on their distro of choice as long as the current availability situation remains unchanged.
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 03:44:37PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
openSUSE 13.1 is over 7 months old, yet not listed on https://www.trinitydesktop.org/ . When will TDE be available for it? Why is it missing?
OpenSuse 13.1 still offers KDE3 directly, so TDE isn't so much needed (unless some of the improvements are wanted).
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On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 15:44:37 -0400 Felix Miata mrmazda@stanis.net wrote:
openSUSE 13.1 is over 7 months old, yet not listed on https://www.trinitydesktop.org/ .
When will TDE be available for it? Why is it missing?
Uh? It is available, just isnt listed on the frontpage for whatever reason. Click on Suse installation instruction for any other release
On Thursday 10 July 2014 20:44:37 Felix Miata wrote:
openSUSE 13.1 is over 7 months old, yet not listed on https://www.trinitydesktop.org/ .
When will TDE be available for it? Why is it missing?
Perhaps because no-one has time for it? Perhaps because TDE 14 is not yet released as stable?
The development team is doing a great job with little time (they all have to earn a living) and few resources. The appropriate remarks are : "Thank you!" "Would you like some help?" Not, "why is it missing?"
Lisi
Le 11/07/2014 11:36, Lisi Reisz a écrit :
On Thursday 10 July 2014 20:44:37 Felix Miata wrote:
openSUSE 13.1 is over 7 months old, yet not listed on https://www.trinitydesktop.org/ .
When will TDE be available for it? Why is it missing?
Perhaps because no-one has time for it? Perhaps because TDE 14 is not yet released as stable?
The development team is doing a great job with little time (they all have to earn a living) and few resources. The appropriate remarks are : "Thank you!" "Would you like some help?" Not, "why is it missing?"
Lisi
As said in a previous message, the packages are in fact available, but the distribution list on the home page is not up to date. See here: https://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/OpenSUSEBinaryIns...
Since the distribution list will grow endlessly over time, I think we should simply write the name of distributions, without version, on the main page, and let the Wiki page show which versions are supported.
François
On 2014-07-11 19:51 (GMT+0200) François Andriot composed:
As said in a previous message, the packages are in fact available, but the distribution list on the home page is not up to date. See here: https://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/OpenSUSEBinaryIns...
Since the distribution list will grow endlessly over time, I think we should simply write the name of distributions, without version, on the main page, and let the Wiki page show which versions are supported.
Had that already been done, and were https://www.trinitydesktop.org/ not written to lead one to believe its list of distributions supported was exhaustive, there would have been no reason for me to have started this thread.
Who would expect clicking on a link to "installation instructions" of an older version would produce a list that includes additional distributions?
Who would expect any need to click the wiki link to find more? Even opening that, where no "download" or "install" link is apparent, I see nothing suggesting any list of distributions TDE has been built for.
On Friday 11 July 2014 18:51:25 François Andriot wrote:
Le 11/07/2014 11:36, Lisi Reisz a écrit :
On Thursday 10 July 2014 20:44:37 Felix Miata wrote:
openSUSE 13.1 is over 7 months old, yet not listed on https://www.trinitydesktop.org/ .
When will TDE be available for it? Why is it missing?
Perhaps because no-one has time for it? Perhaps because TDE 14 is not yet released as stable?
The development team is doing a great job with little time (they all have to earn a living) and few resources. The appropriate remarks are : "Thank you!" "Would you like some help?" Not, "why is it missing?"
Lisi
As said in a previous message, the packages are in fact available, but the distribution list on the home page is not up to date. See here: https://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/OpenSUSEBinaryIn stallation
Yes, I was commenting on his approach - not on the availability or otherwise of the packages. Sorry. I should have left out my first paragraph - or read the emails with more attention. I did read them. Clearly not well. :-/
I'm a selfish brute - I use Debian. I could tell you where Debian is and why!
Since the distribution list will grow endlessly over time, I think we should simply write the name of distributions, without version, on the main page, and let the Wiki page show which versions are supported.
That sounds like a good idea. It's a Wiki.... ;-)
Lisi
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