TDE produces no desktop sounds, Kmix volume control is dead, though mute works, and KControl Sound System Test Sound produces nothing regardless of selected device. OTOH, aplay works fine. Can anyone here suggest what's missing or errant so that TDE session can't connect to Pipewire, so pw-play produces:
error: pw_context_connect() failed: Host is down
There's also cannot connect and "Host is down": $ wpctl status Could not connect to PipeWire $ pw-cli list-objects Device Error: "failed to connect: Host is down" $ pw-cli list-objects Node Error: "failed to connect: Host is down" $
# dpkg-query -W | egrep 'alsa|arts|audio|codec|demul|dbus|fmpeg|gstr|jack|kodi|h26|mix|mpv|pavu|puls|sof-|sound|vlc|wire|xdg'|sort alsa-firmware-loaders 1.2.14-1 alsa-tools 1.2.14-1 alsa-ucm-conf 1.2.14-1 alsa-utils 1.2.14-1 dbus 1.16.2-2 dbus-bin 1.16.2-2 dbus-daemon 1.16.2-2 dbus-session-bus-common 1.16.2-2 dbus-system-bus-common 1.16.2-2 dbus-x11 1.16.2-2 firmware-sof-signed 2025.01-1 kdbusnotification-trinity 4:14.1.5-0debian13.0.0+0 kmix-trinity 4:14.1.5-0debian13.0.0+0 libarts1c2a-trinity:amd64 4:14.1.5-0debian13.0.0+0 libartsc0-trinity:amd64 4:14.1.5-0debian13.0.0+0 libasound2-data 1.2.14-1 libasound2t64:amd64 1.2.14-1 libaudio2:amd64 1.9.4-9 libaudiofile1:amd64 0.3.6-7+b1 libdbus-1-3:amd64 1.16.2-2 libdbus-1-tqt 4:14.1.5-0debian13.0.0+0 libdbus-glib-1-2:amd64 0.114-1 libdbus-tqt-1-1c2 4:14.1.5-0debian13.0.0+0 libjack0:amd64 1:0.126.0-4 libpipewire-0.3-0t64:amd64 1.4.2-1 libpipewire-0.3-modules:amd64 1.4.2-1 libpulse0:amd64 17.0+dfsg1-2+b1 libwebrtc-audio-processing-1-3:amd64 1.3-3+b1 libwireplumber-0.5-0:amd64 0.5.8-2 menu-xdg 0.7 pipewire-alsa:amd64 1.4.2-1 pipewire:amd64 1.4.2-1 pipewire-audio-client-libraries 1.4.2-1 pipewire-bin 1.4.2-1 pipewire-jack:amd64 1.4.2-1 pipewire-pulse 1.4.2-1 sound-theme-freedesktop 0.8-6~deb13u1 tdemultimedia-tdeio-plugins-trinity 4:14.1.5-0debian13.0.0+0 wireplumber 0.5.8-2 xdg-user-dirs 0.18-2 xdg-utils 1.2.1-2 # inxi -Aaz Audio: Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Oland/Hainan/Cape Verde/Pitcairn HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 7000 Series] vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 8 link-max: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:aab0 class-ID: 0403 API: ALSA v: k6.12.57+deb13-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsactl,alsamixer,amixer Server-1: aRts v: 1.5.10 status: active with: artswrapper status: off tools: artsdsp Server-2: PipeWire v: 1.4.2 status: off with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: off 2: wireplumber status: off 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin tools: pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl $ systemctl -l --no-pager --global --user status pipewire.{service,socket} pipewire-pulse.{service,socket} wireplumber ○ pipewire.service - PipeWire Multimedia Service Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/pipewire.service; enabled; preset: enabled) Active: inactive (dead) TriggeredBy: × pipewire.socket
× pipewire.socket - PipeWire Multimedia System Sockets Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/pipewire.socket; enabled; preset: enabled) Active: failed (Result: resources) since Fri 2025-12-26 16:58:51 EST; 16min ago Duration: 7min 59.281s Invocation: e757e540b8614c7fa94a5049727a8dd4 Triggers: ● pipewire.service Listen: /run/user/2000/pipewire-0 (Stream) /run/user/2000/pipewire-0-manager (Stream)
Dec 26 16:50:52 fi965 systemd[1230]: Listening on pipewire.socket - PipeWire Multimedia System Sockets. Dec 26 16:58:51 fi965 systemd[1230]: pipewire.socket: Failed to queue service startup job: Unit dbus.service not found. Dec 26 16:58:51 fi965 systemd[1230]: pipewire.socket: Failed with result 'resources'.
○ pipewire-pulse.service - PipeWire PulseAudio Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/pipewire-pulse.service; enabled; preset: enabled) Active: inactive (dead) TriggeredBy: ○ pipewire-pulse.socket
○ pipewire-pulse.socket - PipeWire PulseAudio Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/pipewire-pulse.socket; enabled; preset: enabled) Active: inactive (dead) Triggers: ● pipewire-pulse.service Listen: /run/user/2000/pulse/native (Stream)
○ wireplumber.service - Multimedia Service Session Manager Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/wireplumber.service; enabled; preset: enabled) Active: inactive (dead) $ alsactl info # # Sound card # - card: 0 id: HDMI name: HDA ATI HDMI longname: HDA ATI HDMI at 0xfbefc000 irq 26 driver_name: HDA-Intel mixer_name: ATI R6xx HDMI components: HDA:1002aa01,00aa0100,00100300 controls_count: 14 pcm: - stream: PLAYBACK devices: - device: 3 id: HDMI 0 name: HDMI 0 * subdevices: - subdevice: 0 name: subdevice #0 - device: 7 id: HDMI 1 name: HDMI 1 subdevices: - subdevice: 0 name: subdevice #0 alsactl: rawmidi_device_list:109: snd_ctl_rawmidi_next_device: Inappropriate ioctl for device $ wpctl status Could not connect to PipeWire $ pw-cli list-objects Device Error: "failed to connect: Host is down" $ pw-cli list-objects Node Error: "failed to connect: Host is down" $ aplay -lL null Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture) pipewire PipeWire Sound Server default Default ALSA Output (currently PipeWire Media Server) hw:CARD=HDMI,DEV=3 HDA ATI HDMI, HDMI 0 * Direct hardware device without any conversions hw:CARD=HDMI,DEV=7 HDA ATI HDMI, HDMI 1 Direct hardware device without any conversions plughw:CARD=HDMI,DEV=3 HDA ATI HDMI, HDMI 0 * Hardware device with all software conversions plughw:CARD=HDMI,DEV=7 HDA ATI HDMI, HDMI 1 Hardware device with all software conversions hdmi:CARD=HDMI,DEV=0 HDA ATI HDMI, HDMI 0 * HDMI Audio Output hdmi:CARD=HDMI,DEV=1 HDA ATI HDMI, HDMI 1 HDMI Audio Output dmix:CARD=HDMI,DEV=3 HDA ATI HDMI, HDMI 0 * Direct sample mixing device dmix:CARD=HDMI,DEV=7 HDA ATI HDMI, HDMI 1 Direct sample mixing device **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** card 0: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0 *] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], device 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 $
Please do not suggest switching to pulseaudio. The idea behind pipewire, along with wireplumber, is they're supposed to be a superior replacement for pulseaudio.
Anno domini 2025 Fri, 26 Dec 18:04:51 -0500 Felix Miata via tde-users scripsit:
Please do not suggest switching to pulseaudio. The idea behind pipewire, along with wireplumber, is they're supposed to be a superior replacement for pulseaudio. --
"supposed" is the problem. Anyway, I don't have pipewire nor pulseaudio running on my systems and TDE sound works just fine. So may I ask why you need any of these? (The only I could not get running without pulseaudio/pipewire were bluetooth speakers)
nik
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp composed on 2025-12-27 10:11 (UTC+0100):
2025 Fri, 26 Dec 18:04:51 -0500 Felix Miata composed:
Please do not suggest switching to pulseaudio. The idea behind pipewire, along with wireplumber, is they're supposed to be a superior replacement for pulseaudio.
"supposed" is the problem. Anyway, I don't have pipewire nor pulseaudio running on my systems and TDE sound works just fine. So may I ask why you need any of these? (The only I could not get running without pulseaudio/pipewire were bluetooth speakers)
What exactly is it you do have? Firefox sound "requires" pulseaudio, or at least, it did. It's not just TDE sound I want, but sound regardless which of a multitude of apps opened is supposed to produce any sound.
On Sat, Dec 27, 2025 at 1:42 PM Felix Miata via tde-users users@trinitydesktop.org wrote:
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp composed on 2025-12-27 10:11 (UTC+0100):
2025 Fri, 26 Dec 18:04:51 -0500 Felix Miata composed:
Please do not suggest switching to pulseaudio. The idea behind pipewire, along with wireplumber, is they're supposed to be a superior replacement for pulseaudio.
"supposed" is the problem. Anyway, I don't have pipewire nor pulseaudio running on my systems and TDE sound works just fine. So may I ask why you need any of these? (The only I could not get running without pulseaudio/pipewire were bluetooth speakers)
What exactly is it you do have? Firefox sound "requires" pulseaudio, or at least, it did.
I use apulse for firefox on Slackware ....
It's not just TDE sound I want, but sound regardless which of a multitude
of apps opened is supposed to produce any sound.
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Anno domini 2025 Sat, 27 Dec 05:41:18 -0500 Felix Miata via tde-users scripsit:
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp composed on 2025-12-27 10:11 (UTC+0100):
2025 Fri, 26 Dec 18:04:51 -0500 Felix Miata composed:
Please do not suggest switching to pulseaudio. The idea behind pipewire, along with wireplumber, is they're supposed to be a superior replacement for pulseaudio.
"supposed" is the problem. Anyway, I don't have pipewire nor pulseaudio running on my systems and TDE sound works just fine. So may I ask why you need any of these? (The only I could not get running without pulseaudio/pipewire were bluetooth speakers)
What exactly is it you do have? Firefox sound "requires" pulseaudio, or at least, it did. It's not just TDE sound I want, but sound regardless which of a multitude of apps opened is supposed to produce any sound.
Firefox requires libasound2t64 (>= 1.0.16) on devuan ceres. I remeber some time ago (2 years?) it required apulse to work, but not any more. obs-studio requires libpulse0 (>= 0.99.1), but has only a soft dependency on pulseaudio (which is not installed).
Nik
On Saturday 27 December 2025 13:19:25 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via tde-users wrote:
Anno domini 2025 Sat, 27 Dec 05:41:18 -0500
Felix Miata via tde-users scripsit:
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp composed on 2025-12-27 10:11 (UTC+0100):
2025 Fri, 26 Dec 18:04:51 -0500 Felix Miata composed:
Please do not suggest switching to pulseaudio. The idea behind pipewire, along with wireplumber, is they're supposed to be a superior replacement for pulseaudio.
"supposed" is the problem. Anyway, I don't have pipewire nor pulseaudio running on my systems and TDE sound works just fine. So may I ask why you need any of these? (The only I could not get running without pulseaudio/pipewire were bluetooth speakers)
What exactly is it you do have? Firefox sound "requires" pulseaudio, or at least, it did. It's not just TDE sound I want, but sound regardless which of a multitude of apps opened is supposed to produce any sound.
Firefox requires libasound2t64 (>= 1.0.16) on devuan ceres. I remeber some time ago (2 years?) it required apulse to work, but not any more. obs-studio requires libpulse0 (>= 0.99.1), but has only a soft dependency on pulseaudio (which is not installed).
Nik
I'm guessing that since you aren't running pulseaudio or pipewire, ALSA provides your sound?
Leslie
Leslie Turriff composed on 2025-12-28 16:29 (UTC-0600):
On Saturday 27 December 2025 13:19:25 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Anno domini 2025 Sat, 27 Dec 05:41:18 -0500
Felix Miata scripsit:
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp composed on 2025-12-27 10:11 (UTC+0100):
2025 Fri, 26 Dec 18:04:51 -0500 Felix Miata composed:
Please do not suggest switching to pulseaudio. The idea behind pipewire, along with wireplumber, is they're supposed to be a superior replacement for pulseaudio.
"supposed" is the problem. Anyway, I don't have pipewire nor pulseaudio running on my systems and TDE sound works just fine. So may I ask why you need any of these? (The only I could not get running without pulseaudio/pipewire were bluetooth speakers)
What exactly is it you do have? Firefox sound "requires" pulseaudio, or at least, it did. It's not just TDE sound I want, but sound regardless which of a multitude of apps opened is supposed to produce any sound.
Firefox requires libasound2t64 (>= 1.0.16) on devuan ceres. I remeber some time ago (2 years?) it required apulse to work, but not any more. obs-studio requires libpulse0 (>= 0.99.1), but has only a soft dependency on pulseaudio (which is not installed).
I'm guessing that since you aren't running pulseaudio or pipewire, ALSA provides your sound?
If you're referring to me, the object is to use pipewire/wireplumber, not any more of puls* than may be required by pipewire* or wireplumber*.
On Sunday 28 December 2025 16:42:51 Felix Miata via tde-users wrote:
Leslie Turriff composed on 2025-12-28 16:29 (UTC-0600):
On Saturday 27 December 2025 13:19:25 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Anno domini 2025 Sat, 27 Dec 05:41:18 -0500
Felix Miata scripsit:
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp composed on 2025-12-27 10:11 (UTC+0100):
2025 Fri, 26 Dec 18:04:51 -0500 Felix Miata composed:
Please do not suggest switching to pulseaudio. The idea behind pipewire, along with wireplumber, is they're supposed to be a superior replacement for pulseaudio.
"supposed" is the problem. Anyway, I don't have pipewire nor pulseaudio running on my systems and TDE sound works just fine. So may I ask why you need any of these? (The only I could not get running without pulseaudio/pipewire were bluetooth speakers)
What exactly is it you do have? Firefox sound "requires" pulseaudio, or at least, it did. It's not just TDE sound I want, but sound regardless which of a multitude of apps opened is supposed to produce any sound.
Firefox requires libasound2t64 (>= 1.0.16) on devuan ceres. I remeber some time ago (2 years?) it required apulse to work, but not any more. obs-studio requires libpulse0 (>= 0.99.1), but has only a soft dependency on pulseaudio (which is not installed).
I'm guessing that since you aren't running pulseaudio or pipewire, ALSA provides your sound?
If you're referring to me, the object is to use pipewire/wireplumber, not any more of puls* than may be required by pipewire* or wireplumber*.
Well, I was asking Nik, who said in his first response, "I don't have pipewire nor pulseaudio running on my systems..." but didn't answer your question, "What exactly is it you do have?"
Leslie
Anno domini 2025 Sun, 28 Dec 16:29:02 -0600 Leslie Turriff via tde-users scripsit:
On Saturday 27 December 2025 13:19:25 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via tde-users wrote:
Anno domini 2025 Sat, 27 Dec 05:41:18 -0500
Felix Miata via tde-users scripsit:
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp composed on 2025-12-27 10:11 (UTC+0100):
2025 Fri, 26 Dec 18:04:51 -0500 Felix Miata composed:
Please do not suggest switching to pulseaudio. The idea behind pipewire, along with wireplumber, is they're supposed to be a superior replacement for pulseaudio.
"supposed" is the problem. Anyway, I don't have pipewire nor pulseaudio running on my systems and TDE sound works just fine. So may I ask why you need any of these? (The only I could not get running without pulseaudio/pipewire were bluetooth speakers)
What exactly is it you do have? Firefox sound "requires" pulseaudio, or at least, it did. It's not just TDE sound I want, but sound regardless which of a multitude of apps opened is supposed to produce any sound.
Firefox requires libasound2t64 (>= 1.0.16) on devuan ceres. I remeber some time ago (2 years?) it required apulse to work, but not any more. obs-studio requires libpulse0 (>= 0.99.1), but has only a soft dependency on pulseaudio (which is not installed).
Nik
I'm guessing that since you aren't running pulseaudio or pipewire, ALSA provides your sound?
Yes.
Leslie
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