On 2022-09-02 16:44:48 Mike Bird wrote:

On Fri September 2 2022 14:37:42 J Leslie Turriff wrote:

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It looks like OpenSuSE has decided to deprecate Leap, their long-term stable release, possibly in favour of Tumbleweed, their rolling release (they're being very coy about what will replace Leap). Trinity runs on numerous other Linuxes; which would be best for someone like me who values stability over gee-whiz features and eye-candy?

In the past I've deployed Slackware, Fedora, Redhat, and Devuan.

I'm currently using Debian Stable so you can consider that a recommendation.

(I'm also using sysvinit instead of systemd.)

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All right, thanks for your feedback.

Leslie -- Operating System: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.4 x86_64 Desktop Environment: Trinity Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.0.12 tde-config: 1.0

I found the following thread:

https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/571160-The-future-of-OpenSUSE-Lea...

https://www.reddit.com/r/openSUSE/comments/upse7b/future_of_leap_alp_etc/

Gianluca

On Fri, 2 Sep 2022, Gianluca Interlandi wrote:

Hi Leslie,

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  It looks like OpenSuSE has decided to deprecate Leap, their long-term 

stable release, possibly in favour of Tumbleweed, their rolling release

Are you saying OpenSUSE 15.4 will be the last stable non-rolling release? Can you please point me to where you read this?

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Trinity runs on numerous other Linuxes

Does Trinity not run on OpenSUSE Tumbleweed?

Thanks!

Gianluca

On Fri, 2 Sep 2022, J Leslie Turriff wrote:

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It looks like OpenSuSE has decided to deprecate Leap, their long-term stable release, possibly in favour of Tumbleweed, their rolling release (they're being very coy about what will replace Leap). Trinity runs on numerous other Linuxes; which would be best for someone like me who values stability over gee-whiz features and eye-candy?

Leslie

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Gianluca Interlandi composed on 2022-09-02 14:46 (UTC-0700):

Does Trinity not run on OpenSUSE Tumbleweed?

It does, but as a rolling release it doesn't qualify as what most people consider "stable".

On 2022-09-02 16:49:37 dep wrote:

said J Leslie Turriff: | It looks like OpenSuSE has decided to deprecate Leap, their long-term | stable release, possibly in favour of Tumbleweed, their rolling release | (they're being very coy about what will replace Leap). Trinity runs on | numerous other Linuxes; which would be best for someone like me who | values stability over gee-whiz features and eye-candy?

I've had good success with the Ubuntu LTS releases. I typically upgrade once every two years, in the odd-numbered year, ie., next spring I'll upgrade to 2204-LTS. Generally they get the kinks worked out in a year. And if something goes really wrong and a release is crap, the version I'm using has several more years of support. -- dep

All right, thanks for your feedback.

Leslie -- Operating System: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.4 x86_64 Desktop Environment: Trinity Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.0.12 tde-config: 1.0

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On 2022-09-02 17:40:24 William Morder via tde-users wrote:

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I like exactly that about Debian; that it's stable, doesn't change much (unless really necessary), and you get to make your own eye-candy.

I agree with this. I run Debian, have for 27 years. Since TDE came out I have copied the .trinity directories to new systems and TDE has worked exactly the same way on every subsequent machine.

Once working, they just work. If a Debian version upgrade is required, it upgrades in place and unless I know what to look for I can't tell it's been done.

Ok, the last version (Debian 11) did bring a new LibreOffice, and this LibreOffice doesn't read the TDE environment variables anymore, so LibreOffice is no longer using my preferred window colors.

TDE continues to work.

- -- You may my glories and my state dispose, But not my griefs; still am I king of those. --- William Shakespeare, "Richard II"

said William Morder via tde-users:

| I really would like to go back to OpenOffice, which used to work. I | don't like how these newer programs or new releases of old programs have | started to disregard our privacy, or basic system settings. (I don't | allow any programs to do that kind of thing.)

Frankly, I liked Star Office!

But, hey, we always have fallbacks: KWord and Calligra!

(I keep my TextMaker updated, though this is mostly because of some carefully constructed label templates from the earliest months of the millennium and because the Linux folk occasionally release some new library or other that breaks TextMaker.)

And yeah, something flaky has been going on with LibreOffice lately. I wonder if it will turn into ransomware . . . -- dep

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On Sat, 3 Sep 2022, dep wrote:

said dep:

| Frankly, I liked Star Office!

And truth be known, ApplixWare was non-awful.

I still have a working copy of WordStar 6.0 on my linux workstation.

Jonesy

On Saturday 03 September 2022 11:39:18 dep wrote:

said Marvin Jones via tde-users: | On Sat, 3 Sep 2022, dep wrote: | >said dep: | >| Frankly, I liked Star Office! | > | >And truth be known, ApplixWare was non-awful. | | I still have a working copy of WordStar 6.0 on my linux workstation.

I have the CDs, etc., for WordPerfect/Linux, which never didn't suck. OTOH, I have installed on this very machine Word 6/DOS and Textra/DOS. (There is a non-stunt reason: occasionally I happen upon old files written in those, and I need to export 'em to RTF to make 'em readable. Though both of them were excellent word crunchers. Wish there were a decent Linux text-based word processor. And no, EMACS does not fit the bill. EMACS was developed so basement dwellers could write love notes to the girlfriends they would never have. Today's incels think they're something new. Ah. but I digress . . .) -- dep

I don't recall that WordPerfect was so terrible; but then, I wasn't running Linux back then. I believe that was on a Commodore Amiga 64, and also on an old Mac Classic II (with 80 mb hard drive!). But also, I was just using it as a fancy typewriter, basic writing and editing, made easier by tools like cut and copy-paste, etc.

My brief stint with M$ Windows got me acquainted with Word, and that's when I learned that nowadays we can "buy" something (like a word processing program) but not really "own" it, not like owning an actual book, but that I had in fact purchased a five-year license to use that software. That, and other similar experiences, led me to Linux.

Nowadays I do much more layout, to create print-ready pdfs; the idea being to be able to turn my manuscript(s) directly into a book, or at least to provide a sample of how I would like it to look. I could never do that kind of thing, I imagine, with WordStar and those old programs, but I do miss the simplicity. And if they were somehow brought more up-to-date with modern word processors like LibreOffice, that sounds like a nice dream, but I doubt that we'll see anything like it. I think reforming OpenOffice and/or LibreOffice are probably more realistic and achievable; or at least we can hope for another fork from one of them.

Bill

Personally, I like Slackware.