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This is very interesting
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Hi
I'm trying to get skype sound to work but apparently the monkeys at MS removed
alsa support and replaced it with pulse, which is rubbish. Even though I have
pulse enable (pclos - ali's remaster), it still doesn't show up. Is there a
fix to re-enable alsa or the like?
Kate
Last post ack the list archives was in August 2017, after which the list
was silent, and my msgs were apparently routed to /dev/null. But I
didn't unsubscribe.
My ISP has been known to block/bounce but pearsoncomputing.net was in
their "whitelist", I put it there yonks ago.
Anyway, I'm glad to be back.
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Getting the trinity-keyring in Devuan can be tricky, I had to learn a
system that worked, First of course is to do the Devuan base install
and then boot and login and do apt-get update and 'apt-get install
trinity-keyring --allow-unauthenticated', now you can apt-get install
tde-trinity, you will have to tell apt 'y' for yes when asked to install
untrusted. After the install is done and you boot to the trinity desktop
you can copy the trinity-keyring and run 'apt-key adv --keyserver
keyserver.quickbuild.io --recv-keys (paste the trinity-keyring here)'
and your good to go. If you try to have a system without the keyring
properly installed you are going to have system problems, so make sure
you can install aptitude and can run aptitude dist-upgrade without problems.
Cheers!
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Jimmy Johnson
Devuan ASCII - TDE Trinity R14.0.5 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda6
Registered Linux User #380263
Hey Guys, first my thanks to Timothy who had the foresight to start this
project and stay with it. Timothy Pearson you rock!
I test Debian and Ubuntu KDE for more than 20yrs, but no more I'm
leaving Plasma and Systemd, they take the Happy out of Camping and
computing too.
I'm trying to setup Trinity with No-Systemd and get a good HDMI
connection for both audio and video, it seems with systemd this is no
problem and without systemd it's a hit and miss thing, if I keep at it I
can get it working but I don't know what I'm doing and get frustrated. I
have 3 multimedia computers one has nvidia and I'm watching video and I
have audio, I can turn audio down using the video player vol control but
the tde-mixer or pulseaudio vol control are not working. The other two
are Intel audio and video and I feel lucky to get audio at all,
sometimes it's just video and when I go to the konsole and type $
'pulseaudio --start' I can get audio. Any help to get all this to
working auto-magic would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
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Jimmy Johnson
Devuan Beowulf - TDE-Trinity R14.0.5 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda8
Registered Linux User #380263
Since we are getting into other stuff, I am starting a new thread. Maybe it
should be two threads?
> On 04/21/2018 04:13 PM, William Morder wrote:
> > I stand at the brink of Devuan, not quite ready to take the plunge myself,
> > yet
> > share in your dislike of systemd and how Debian is inching into a rule of
> the
> > few over the many. And I fear that it will soon drift into the same kind >
> > of
> > crap that ruined Kubuntu (and the whole Ubuntu family) for me. There are >
> > just
> > one or two refinements I want to make in my current system (so that I can
> > find my way back when I get into a mess).
> I'm sorry to hear you have systemd installed and you're not happy with
> it, if I knew what version you are using I could make a suggestion, I
> run all LTS versions or Debian and Ubuntu and now Devuan too. For hard
> drive management I use Wheezy and Jessie, for multimedia I use the
> latest.
For the most part my system runs pretty well, except for hanging when I try to
reboot (as explained below).
What I would really like is to get VLC working right again. It was always the
best all-round multimedia player, and now it crashes every time I open it. I
searched round for solutions, and all I've found so far are suggestions to go
back to the Wheezy repositories for older versions of VLC. Yet another user
here in the Trinity group had the same problems with VLC, and he was already
using Wheezy. I don't know what the problem is, but there is another great
piece of software ruined.
> Currently I'm looking at keeping some older systems around by
> rolling my own kernels. There's always options. And slicing off
> another partition for a new install is another option.
I run Debian Jessie, and systemd seems to cause the system to hang in
particular when I reboot. I always see that systemd is doing something, and
cannot shut down. I created a kind of script to kill running programs, and
this has pretty much solved the problem, but I still feel that my current
Debian system does not run quite as smoothly as my older systems used to run.
All in good time, though. I rarely have incidents any more which cause me to
scream, pull out my hair, and call down curses upon the heads of the devs.
> As for Ubuntu, they have messed up big-time and now they are on my list
> of things I don't want to do anymore and now Microsoft won't be lonely
> any more. :)
It's never lonely at the bottom.
> > The icon is nice, but I would recommend that all Devuan branding
> > distinguish
> > itself from Debian by making the spiral go round widdershins: that is,
> > counter-clockwise. Then it would be perfect.
> I hear you, it was just something I slapped together.
No problem, it was just a suggestion. If Debian do not complain, then there is
no obligation to change it. But since Devuan is a fork of Debian, and thus
technically "different" from it, I thought it might be wise to think ahead.
One could also say, for example, that TDE *is* really just KDE, but I believe
some people out there will object. Likewise, you could say that Icecat *is*
really just Iceweasel, which is really just Firefox. You could even say that
*rock-n-roll* is really just *the blues* + *country music*.
I do recognize that all categories are, to some degree, arbitrary and
influenced by personal biases, etc. They can also be useful, however, to
indicate that (for example) Devuan has struck out in a slightly different
direction, which in my opinion is truer to Debian's mission than Debian
itself currently operates.
> You do know that Devuan IS Debian don't you? The only changes made
> effect systemd and the packages needed so you can install the desktop of
> choice, like udev and libpam, really just a hand full of packages are
> changed. I'm running Devuan from Debian's Sid to Jessie, in other words
> Devuan Jessie, ASCII, Beowulf and Ceres and Trinity is a clean install
> on them all with no real problem, All around Devuan Jessie is the best!
Yes, but the only practical way for me to get Devuan is to install Debian
first, then migrate to Devuan. I have tried to install from the Devuan live
DVD, and it wants to overwrite my home folder, with no other option. I have a
backup, of course, but this does not seem quite right.
I have found instructions for migrating from Debian to Devuan, without the
necessity of reinstalling my system, so that is my plan. However, I have yet
a couple loose ends to tie up, so that I can revert to my working system if
necessary, when I will inevitably mess up something due to experimentation.
Also, I have other responsibilities, various little jobs, and other things
that I must do, as there is a life outside computers, and a whole world
waiting to be explored just outside my door; or so I hear.
> Bill just take away one thing from this post: If it's not fun don't do it.
I wish somebody had told me this back when I was in grad school.
> Cheers!
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> Jimmy Johnson
> Devuan ASCII - TDE Trinity R14.0.5 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda6
> Registered Linux User #380263
Dear TDE users,
is there a way to use IBus as the input method for TDE applications? I have installed and
configured IBus on my system. It works fine with GTK and QT4 applications but I can't get it to
work with TDE applications (which, I believe are QT3 applications). So for example, I can input
japanese hiragana or korean hangul in Firefox or Libre Office, but I can't do the same in KMail.
All help appreciated.
Janek
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quoth Felix Miata:
|xorg is a meta-package. You should be able to remove it without affecting TDE or
|Xorg operation.
So I can safely go ahead and let all the stuff get deleted and it won't affect the operation of TDE? (The list I posted earlier?)
What puzzles me is why none of this stuff appears in autoremove or remove lists otherwise.
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to test some of the things offered here the last couple of days i just now tried on my testbed thinkpad laptop to upgrade from ubuntu-14.04 to 16.04 by changinf all the references in sources.list from "trusty" to "xenial." then did an apt-get dist-upgrade.
the result isn't pretty. in fact, it won't even boot, though it makes an heroic effort.
i figured that inasmuch as i'm going to have to do something fairly drastic now anyway, i'd switch to a current debian with tde -- having extra desktops around is just annoying. but looking on the liveCDs page i see ubuntu and PCLOS and some others, but no debian.
does anyone here know of current debian-tde live CDs anyplace?
thanks!
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