tde-users April 2018

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a few barely on-topic questions
by dep 24 Apr '18

24 Apr '18

greets, everybody . . . i'm trying to set up dnscrypt on my desktop and laptop machines, both of which are running tde atop ubuntu 14.04. (i know. one of these days, when i have a week, i'll move 'em both over to full debian.) the tutorials i've found on this make assumptions as to desktop utilities that i think are not tde. to wit: Open the session and startup manager and add the following to the Application Autostart Menu. sudo dnscrypt-proxy -R opendns -a 127.0.0.2:53 -u dnscrypt what in tde corresponds to the "session and startup manager"? there's a gui for dnscript-proxy, but there's no binary for it and i don't have time to sort out dependencies (up to and including QT5), and given the changes that have come to linux since last i much tinkered with its innards i have no idea where one can even insert dna nameservers anymore -- the old places now all get overwritten at boot. grr. now an actual on-topic question: i remember when i upgraded to 14.04 in late 2016, i was told that there were problems getting tde to work happily atop 16.04. is this still the case, or am i safe un upgrading to a newer ubuntu while keeping tde? thanks! dep Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com/) Secure Email. Because privacy matters.

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Slax with Trinity updated to 9.4
by Slávek Banko 21 Apr '18

21 Apr '18

Hello to everybody, a few days ago, I updated the Slax with Trinity to version 9.4. I hope that I have also solved the problem with persistent changes. The problem was probably in the missing 'changes' folder, which is empty at the beginning. Thank you for your feedback. Cheers -- Slávek

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A small gift for my Devuan friends.
by Jimmy Johnson 21 Apr '18

21 Apr '18

Cheers! -- Jimmy Johnson Devuan Ceres/Beowulf - TDE Trinity R14.0.5 - Intel Core i5-3320M - EXT4 at sda9 Registered Linux User #380263

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I'm using Devuan and I hope I'm not alone here.
by Jimmy Johnson 21 Apr '18

21 Apr '18

Anybody else Systemd-Free on this list? Please tell me I'm not alone. Thanks, -- Jimmy Johnson Devuan Beowulf - TDE-Trinity R14.0.5 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda8 Registered Linux User #380263

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Re: [Users] Problem installing Trinity Desktop on OpenSuSE 42.3
by Leslie Turriff 20 Apr '18

20 Apr '18

On 2018-04-20 22:11:52 Felix Miata wrote: > Those that are currently installed and reported as (System Packages) are > packages from Packman that are no longer available. Okay, I found it on rpm.bone.net. I presume from your list that there is no problem with having multiple versions of this library installed? Leslie

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Problem installing Trinity Desktop on OpenSuSE 42.3
by Leslie Turriff 20 Apr '18

20 Apr '18

I decided to switch back from KDE3 to Trinity, but I ran into a problem while attempting the install. It seems that, while KDE3 uses libIexMath-2_1, Trinity wants libIexMath-2_2. From my install attempt: ========================================================================= My repository list: $ zypper repos --uri Repository priorities in effect: (See 'zypper lr -P' for details) 97 (raised priority) : 3 repositories 98 (raised priority) : 3 repositories 99 (default priority) : 20 repositories # | Alias | Name | Enabled | GPG Check | Refresh | URI ---+-------------------------------------+-----------------------------------------+---------+-----------+---------+---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | Games | Games | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/games/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/ 2 | Local | Local | Yes | ( p) Yes | Yes | dir:///home/leslie/Downloads/Packages/RPMs/Repository/ 3 | OSC | OSC | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tools/openSUSE_42.3/ 4 | Trinity14 | Trinity14 | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity/rpm/opensuse42.3/trini… 5 | Trinity14-noarch | Trinity14-noarch | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity/rpm/opensuse42.3/trini… 6 | http-download.opensuse.org-252ba42b | Emulators:Wine:STABLE | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Emulators:/Wine:/STABLE/openSUSE_… 7 | http-download.opensuse.org-2674e8c6 | home:Miuku | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/Miuku/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/ 8 | http-download.opensuse.org-385545ed | openSUSE:Leap:42.3:Update | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Leap:/42.3:/Update/stan… 9 | http-download.opensuse.org-39c8c023 | Publishing | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Publishing/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/ 10 | http-download.opensuse.org-4784b6cf | devel:libraries:c_c++ | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/libraries:/c_c%2B%2B/openS… 11 | http-download.opensuse.org-85b241d0 | KDE:KDE3 | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_Leap_42.2/ 12 | http-download.opensuse.org-92b8fa02 | system:packagemanager | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/system:/packagemanager/openSUSE_L… 13 | http-download.opensuse.org-aff39bb5 | devel:libraries:c_c++ | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/libraries:/c_c%2B%2B/openS… 14 | http-download.opensuse.org-d7c190d1 | systemsmanagement:saltstack | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/systemsmanagement:/saltstack/open… 15 | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-0 | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-0 | No | ---- | ---- | cd:///?devices=/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-S__%5Cx5b 16 | opensuse-guide.org-repo | Libdvdcss Repository | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://opensuse-guide.org/repo/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/ 17 | packman.inode.at-suse | Packman Repository | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/ 18 | repo-debug | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Debug | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/leap/42.3/repo/oss/ 19 | repo-debug-non-oss | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Debug-Non-Oss | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/leap/42.3/repo/non-oss/ 20 | repo-debug-update | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update-Debug | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/leap/42.3/oss/ 21 | repo-debug-update-non-oss | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update-Debug-Non-Oss | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/leap/42.3/non-oss/ 22 | repo-non-oss | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Non-Oss | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/42.3/repo/non-oss/ 23 | repo-oss | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Oss | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/42.3/repo/oss/ 24 | repo-source | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Source | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/leap/42.3/repo/oss/ 25 | repo-source-non-oss | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Source-Non-Oss | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/leap/42.3/repo/non-oss/ 26 | repo-update | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.3/oss/ 27 | repo-update-non-oss | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update-Non-Oss | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.3/non-oss/ ========================================================================= Installing Trinity (note, KDE3 was successfully removed): $ zypper install trinity-desktop Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Resolving package depen Problem: nothing provides libIexMath-2_2.so.12()(64bit) needed by trinity-tdelibs-14.0.4-1.oss423.x86_64 Solution 1: do not install trinity-desktop-14.0.4-1.oss423.noarch Solution 2: break trinity-tdelibs-14.0.4-1.oss423.x86_64 by ignoring some of its dependencies Choose from above solutions by number or cancel [1/2/c] (c): c ========================================================================= What zypper says about libIexMath: $ zypper search --provides libIexMath-2_2 Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... S | Name | Summary | Type ---+-----------------------------+---------------------------------------------------+-------- i+ | libIexMath-2_2-23 | Exception-based vector/matrix library for OpenEXR | package i+ | libIexMath-2_2-23-debuginfo | Debug information for package libIexMath-2_2-23 | package ========================================================================= So, Trinity wants libIexMath-2_2.so.12, which OpenSuSE thinks is provided by package libIexMath-2_2-23, but apparently that's TOO new. I tried looking on rpmfind for a libIexMath, but found nothing. Can I just add another symbolic link to rename 2_23 to 2_12? Is that likely to work?

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Re: Re: [trinity-users] partitioning - opt & etc
by Kate Draven 16 Apr '18

16 Apr '18

> http://www.linuxbase.org/betaspecs/fhs/fhs/index.html > > "/opt is reserved for the installation of add-on application software > packages. > A package to be installed in /opt must locate its static files in a > separate /opt/<package> or /opt/<provider> directory tree, where <package> > is a name that describes the software package and <provider> is the > provider's LANANA registered name." > > "/usr/lib includes object files and libraries. On some systems, it may > also include internal binaries that are not intended to be executed > directly by users or shell scripts. > Applications may use a single subdirectory under /usr/lib. If an > application uses a subdirectory, all architecture-dependent data > exclusively used by the application must be placed within that > subdirectory." > > As for partitioning your drive, I don't do separate partitions for /etc > /opt /home. It has been decades since I even heard of anyone recommending > doing that. > > -LTH > > On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 11:18 AM, William Morder <doctor_contendo(a)zoho.com> > wrote: > > > Okay, so new thread! > > > > As I was repartitioning my hard drive, I was trying to find out the > > lowdown on > > this /opt folder. This is a new thing since I have started running > > Trinity; I > > never noticed it before when running Kubuntu. Only after I started running > > the Trinity desktop, that is when I noticed the installation to /opt; and > > only then I noticed that other programs were installing in that folder. > > > > A friend told me that he creates separate partitions for both /opt and > > /etc; > > and then, too, I noticed that the new Icecat browser does something even > > weirder, which is to install in /usr/lib/icecat, rather than (like other > > Mozilla browsers) in /home/<USER>/.mozilla/. > > > > My question is really more or less the same for all these items. I want to > > be > > able, once I have configured them as I wish, just to clone that directory, > > so > > that I don't have to keep reinventing the wheel, over and over again. > > > > When I tried to research the /opt folder, I didn't find out much. If I > > create > > a separate partition, will I be able to leave it untouched like my home > > folder? Will Trinity (and other programs) automatically be installed there? > > > > I suppose could just back it up regularly, then overwrite it once I have > > reinstalled, but I would like to treat it like my /home/<USER>/ folder, and > > leave it intact. > > > > The same with Icecat: it seems to run better than Firefox/Iceweasel, but to > > install everything in /usr/lib/icecat seems very irregular. Is there some > > way > > to get it to install elsewhere? for example, in /opt? > > > > Bill > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@ > > lists.pearsoncomputing.net > > For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@lists. > > pearsoncomputing.net > > Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users. > > pearsoncomputing.net/ > > Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity. > > pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting > > > > > > > -- > > -Leonard T. Harris > Web Services > Virginia Commonwealth University > http://www.vcu.edu/ > I do recommend using separate partitions for home. The advantage is, if you need to reinstall the os. You need only reformat / (root). /home is left untouched. If you have a computer with a small amount of ram and/or slower CPU, I recommended a swap partition of no more than 2 gigs. Example: swap (sda1) / (root sda2) /home (sda3) There have been occasions when it became necessary to reinstall the OS (Ex. crackmonkey decided to make "room" by logging in a root and deleting stuff). Having the sep /home saved all of the user data and settings etc. My setup I actually have sep hard drives for things like /home /media /software etc. However, if this is a test machine, I wouldn't bother. No point to it. Kate

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Remove session lock?
by Thierry de Coulon 07 Apr '18

07 Apr '18

I'm trying to setup a machine to autostart at a given time, do record something and then shutdown. Autostarting works with: echo `date -d 'YYYY-MM-DD hh:mm:ss ' '+%s'` > /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/wakealarm but this seems to work only if I put the computer in suspend mode (if I shutdown the computer does not come back to life). However, when the computer starts from suspend, the session is locked... and I am not there to unlock it. I've searched TDE's control panel without luck. Is there a way to remove the auto-lock feature? Thierry

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Re: [trinity-users] Remove session lock?
by midi-pascal 07 Apr '18

07 Apr '18

On 18-04-06 01:23 PM, Thierry de Coulon wrote: > I'm trying to setup a machine to autostart at a given time, do record > something and then shutdown. > > Autostarting works with: > > echo `date -d 'YYYY-MM-DD hh:mm:ss ' '+%s'` > /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/wakealarm > > but this seems to work only if I put the computer in suspend mode (if I > shutdown the computer does not come back to life). However, when the computer > starts from suspend, the session is locked... and I am not there to unlock > it. > > I've searched TDE's control panel without luck. Is there a way to remove the > auto-lock feature? > > Thierry > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net > For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net > Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ > Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting Hi, Trinity Control Center->System Administration->Login Manager->Convenience Top-Left: Enable Auto-Login Cheers Pascal

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Incorrect digital clock time
by D. R. Evans 05 Apr '18

05 Apr '18

I'm not sure where to report this: I have three 24-hour TDE clocks in a panel: one on local time; one on London time; and one on UTC. The London and UTC clocks are reading the same time, but I discovered yesterday that in fact London is already on summer time (and has been for nearly a week, I understand), so the London time should be displaying a number one hour higher than UTC. Doc -- Web: http://enginehousebooks.com/drevans

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