tde-users April 2018

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Slow opening of TDE
by andre_debian＠numericable.fr 28 Apr '18

28 Apr '18

Hello, Since I upgraded from Debian Jessie to Stretch, the opening of TDE is slow, 10 seconds with a black screen... Do somebody see the same time ? Have a good day, André

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is tde allergic to qt5?
by dep 27 Apr '18

27 Apr '18

was just now trying to install the protonmail bridge bets, which is to allow existing email clients to work with protonmail. but the .deb install failed for lack of a litany of qt5 dependencies. i have a bunch of qt4 things installed and they seem to work alongside tde perfectly well. so i sought to install qt5-essentials, the first of the dependencies. after which -- i typically install packages from the commandline -- i got this unhappy display: The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: acpi amarok-common-trinity amarok-engine-xine-trinity amarok-trinity arts-trinity bluetooth bluez-utils crystalcursors desktop-effects-tde-trinity dmz-cursor-theme fonts-arabeyes foo2zjs fortune-mod fortunes-min fotoxx-common gir1.2-ges-1.0 gir1.2-gst-plugins-base-1.0 gir1.2-gstreamer-1.0 gir1.2-json-1.0 gstreamer1.0-gnonlin gtk-qt-engine-trinity gtk3-tqt-engine-trinity gwenview-trinity kaffeine-trinity karm-trinity katapult-trinity kbstate-trinity kdbusnotification-trinity keep-trinity kmag-trinity kmailcvt-trinity kmousetool-trinity kmplayer-base-trinity kmplayer-konq-plugins-trinity konversation-trinity kopete-trinity kpf-trinity kppp-trinity krdc-trinity krfb-trinity ksplash-engine-moodin-trinity ksystemlog-trinity ktorrent-trinity kubuntu-default-settings-trinity kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts-trinity kvkbd-trinity landscape-client landscape-common lftp libavahi-tqt-1 libccfits0 libcfitsio3 libdbus-tqt-1-1c2 libges-1.0-0 libifp4 libjs-sphinxdoc libmp4v2-2 libnjb5 libqt5concurrent5 libraw9 librsync1 libscim8c2a min12xxw pnm2ppa powermanagement-interface pxljr python-gst-1.0 python-pylibacl python-pyxattr qt4-tqt-theme-engine rdesktop rdiff-backup scim-bridge-client-qt scim-im-agent scim-modules-socket screen speedcrunch splix strigi-daemon synaptic-trinity tqca-tls ttf-arabeyes ttf-arphic-ukai ttf-arphic-uming ttf-lao ttf-malayalam-fonts ttf-thai-tlwg ttf-unfonts-core Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. oh, and it also deleted xorg, though i quickly reinstalled that. i'm hoping to make everyone play nice together, but before i do that i hope to back out of whatever i've gotten myself into, lest the machine surprise me at next reboot. help!! dep Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com/) Secure Email. Because privacy matters.

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re. trinity and qt5
by dep 27 Apr '18

27 Apr '18

okay, managed to fix whatever was ailing apt such that it doesn't want to uninstall half my software anymore (undid what i found in /var/log/apt/history.log), so now i'm just trying to find out if there's a way to get tde to peacefully coexist with qt5 stuff, without asking anybody to write or port anything, which i'm loath to do. if there's a way and somebody tells me of it, i'll report back on whether protonmail can be made to work with kmail as its client. dep Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com/) Secure Email. Because privacy matters.

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What about MTP in TDE
by deloptes 27 Apr '18

27 Apr '18

Hi, Is MTP well supported? I have exotic Sailfish phone and when connected it is recognized as Camera. When I try to write a file, it tells me it can not write to Camera, as it is unsupported. What do you think I should do? thanks for your ideas in advance regards

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Re: [trinity-users] Re: [Users] Strange messages at startup for one account
by Leslie Turriff 26 Apr '18

26 Apr '18

It looks like it worked (see below) but I logged out of the account and then back in, and got the same thing. :-( Leslie @20:32:00,root@pinto ~ $ r14-xdg-update [r14-xdg-update] Performing a profile update for Trinity release R14 XDG compliance. [r14-xdg-update] [r14-xdg-update] To run this script against a different user directory, or automated [r14-xdg-update] from within another script, pass the directory path as a parameter. [r14-xdg-update] For example: r14-xdg-update /home/user_dir [r14-xdg-update] Use the user home directory and not the profile directory. [r14-xdg-update] User directory: /root [r14-xdg-update] Profile directory: /root/.trinity [r14-xdg-update] This script has been run at least once previously. To run manually pass the 'force' parameter. @20:32:04,root@pinto ~ $ r14-xdg-update force [r14-xdg-update] Performing a profile update for Trinity release R14 XDG compliance. [r14-xdg-update] [r14-xdg-update] To run this script against a different user directory, or automated [r14-xdg-update] from within another script, pass the directory path as a parameter. [r14-xdg-update] For example: r14-xdg-update /home/user_dir [r14-xdg-update] Use the user home directory and not the profile directory. [r14-xdg-update] User directory: /root [r14-xdg-update] Profile directory: /root/.trinity [r14-xdg-update] [r14-xdg-update] Updating temp file locations. [r14-xdg-update] Renaming the temporary cache directory. [r14-xdg-update] Creating a sym link for the temporary cache directory. [r14-xdg-update] Updating references of temporary paths. [r14-xdg-update] Updating references of /opt/trinity/share/applications/kde to share/applications/tde. [r14-xdg-update] Updating references of kconf to tdeconf. [r14-xdg-update] Updating user-defined keyboard shortcuts in khotkeysrc. [r14-xdg-update] Updating some text strings in khotkeysrc. [r14-xdg-update] Updating some text strings in kglobalshortcutsrc. [r14-xdg-update] Updating kicker/panel customizations in kickerrc. [r14-xdg-update] Updating system tray icons in systemtray_panelappletrc. [r14-xdg-update] Updating katerc. [r14-xdg-update] kwriterc does not exist. [r14-xdg-update] keditrc does not exist. [r14-xdg-update] quantarc does not exist. [r14-xdg-update] [tk]developrc does not exist. [r14-xdg-update] Updating khelpcenterrc. [r14-xdg-update] kateui.rc does not exist. [r14-xdg-update] katepartui.rc does not exist. [r14-xdg-update] kwriteui.rc does not exist. [r14-xdg-update] ktexteditor_kdatatool does not exist. [r14-xdg-update] ark_part.rc does not exist. [r14-xdg-update] Updating Quick Launch applet. [r14-xdg-update] Quick Launch is not installed. [r14-xdg-update] Updating Quanta Plus plugins.rc. [r14-xdg-update] Quanta Plus plugins.rc does not exist. [r14-xdg-update] Updating Autostart files. [r14-xdg-update] Update sessions. [r14-xdg-update] Updating TDENewStuff providers and status. [r14-xdg-update] Renaming some configuration files and directories. [r14-xdg-update] Updating profile *.desktop files. [r14-xdg-update] R14 XDG updates completed successfully. On 2018-04-24 20:27:19 Kate Draven wrote: > > On 2018-04-24 19:09:32 Kate Draven wrote: > > > Hi Leslie > > > As root, run r14-xdg-update > > > When it asks you to continue say yes by pressing Y. > > > > > > Kate > > > > Okay. Should this be done in single-user mode, with X down? > > > > Leslie > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Log in as normal. Allow the error. > Then open a root terminal. > Hopefully have a root password in, you should do. > Then enter the command > r14-xdg-update > It will repeat the error but this time ask if you want to continue. > Press Y and let it rip. > It should end with something like the script was run or completed > successfully. Something like that. > > Let us know how to went. > > Cheers, > > Kate

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Re: [Users] Strange messages at startup for one account
by Leslie Turriff 26 Apr '18

26 Apr '18

It only happens on one of the four accounts on my system; the others work fine with Trinity. I created a brand new account and it works flawlessly, so there must be something broken in that one account, not in the Trinity installation. Any clues as to what sort of files/directories are involved? Just exactly what is xdg and what does it do/is it good for? Leslie On 2018-04-24 20:53:19 Kate Draven wrote: > I've never seen that output before. > I think your TDE install is damaged or broken. > Or your user has a problem. You should try this before anything.

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Strange messages at startup for one account
by Leslie Turriff 26 Apr '18

26 Apr '18

Hi, On one account on my OpenSuSE Leap 42.3 system (the main account, of course), I'm getting these messages after the login screen and before the desktop appears: 1) > The R14-xdg-update script has been run at least once. > The script is not successfully updating. > The script will run with each login until corrected. > Please contact an administrator or take appropriate administrative action to > correct the problem. > The error code is 9. 2) > Some Trinity profile R14 XDG compliance updates failed. > Check applications-tdemenuedit.menu for '<filename>kde-' in > /var/tmp/kdecache-leslie/r14-xdgupdate-validation-test-9.tct. 3) > The R14-xdg-update script has been run at least once. > The script is not successfully updating. > The script will run with each login until corrected. > Please contact an administrator or take appropriate administrative action to > correct the problem. > The error code is 9. > Common failures include file and directory permissions. (These messages are displayed using xmessage, and can't be copied/pasted since the desktop isn't active, so the above is my hand-copied version, which has all the words, but not necessarily on the same lines.) So I looked into the indicated file, and indeed there are a plethora of lines containing <filename>kde-... (see attached). Apparently there are 'file and directory permissions' problems /somewhere./ I have looked at the permissions of all files in ~/.kde and they look okay (but is owner rw- sufficient?) I looked at the r14-xdg-update script, but the code is opaque (at least to me). I tried renaming ~/.kde to something else but the problem persists; also tried removing socket-dir and tmp-dir, but that doesn't help either. The script contains this unhelpful comment: > # This script should be needed to run only once, but corner cases > # and file/directory permissions could cause incomplete updates. > # > # TODO: How to handle environments where files/directories are locked > # administratively or are owned by root and can't be updated. > # The nominal validation checks in this script provide some notice > # but no direct remedy. > # > # TODO: How to update profile directories not named $HOME/.trinity and $TDEHOME > # is not yet declared when running this script. I'm not at all sure where to look and what to look for beyond this. How can I get past this irritating situation? Leslie

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Re: [trinity-users] Re: [Users] Strange messages at startup for one account
by Kate Draven 25 Apr '18

25 Apr '18

> Now, this is interesting. I accidentally ran r14-xdg-update on the new test > account that I had created, and now when I logout and login again with that > new account, it also exhibits the same r14-xdg-update infection. > > Leslie > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- The only think I can think of is your TDE install is somehow broken. I've seen this error msg before and have always been able to fix it. I'm out of ideas. Sorry I wasn't very helpful. Good luck, Kate

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Re: [trinity-users] Re: [Users] Strange messages at startup for one account
by Leslie Turriff 25 Apr '18

25 Apr '18

The output is a little different, but the results are just as disappointing. :-( I particularly find the statement, "Please exercise appropriate action." frustrating. Leslie @20:41:42,leslie@pinto ~ $ r14-xdg-update [r14-xdg-update] Performing a profile update for Trinity release R14 XDG compliance. [r14-xdg-update] [r14-xdg-update] To run this script against a different user directory, or automated [r14-xdg-update] from within another script, pass the directory path as a parameter. [r14-xdg-update] For example: r14-xdg-update /home/user_dir [r14-xdg-update] Use the user home directory and not the profile directory. [r14-xdg-update] User directory: /home/leslie [r14-xdg-update] Profile directory: /home/leslie/.kde [r14-xdg-update] [r14-xdg-update] The r14-xdg-update script has been run at least once. [r14-xdg-update] The error code is 9. [r14-xdg-update] You are running this script from while a Trinity session is active. Most files can be updated "live" but some cannot, such as kdeglobals. This script might complete successfully and might not. Trinity R14 XDG compliance updates have been interrupted. Without R14 XDG compliance updates, some Trinity apps will fail to function properly. Failures include the following: * Many left-side icon lists will not populate, such as the Panel and Konqueror configuration dialogs. * User-defined keyboard shortcuts fail (khotkeysrc). System defined shortcuts remain functional. * User-defined app preferences fail (profilerc). * Konqueror navigation/sidebar panel won't open. * User-defined konqueror service menus, kicker customization, * konqueror sidebar, Recent Documents list fail. Please exercise appropriate action. Continue? (y/n): y Continuing. [r14-xdg-update] Updating temp file locations. [r14-xdg-update] Renaming the temporary cache directory. [r14-xdg-update] Creating a sym link for the temporary cache directory. [r14-xdg-update] Updating references of temporary paths. [r14-xdg-update] Updating references of /opt/trinity/share/applications/kde to share/applications/tde. [r14-xdg-update] Updating references of kconf to tdeconf. [r14-xdg-update] Updating user-defined keyboard shortcuts in khotkeysrc. [r14-xdg-update] Updating some text strings in khotkeysrc. [r14-xdg-update] Updating some text strings in kglobalshortcutsrc. [r14-xdg-update] Updating user-defined app preferences in profilerc. [r14-xdg-update] Updating kicker/panel customizations in kickerrc. [r14-xdg-update] Updating system tray icons in systemtray_panelappletrc. [r14-xdg-update] Updating katerc. [r14-xdg-update] Updating kwriterc. [r14-xdg-update] keditrc does not exist. [r14-xdg-update] quantarc does not exist. [r14-xdg-update] Updating tdeveloprc. [r14-xdg-update] Updating khelpcenterrc. [r14-xdg-update] Updating kateui.rc. [r14-xdg-update] katepartui.rc does not exist. [r14-xdg-update] kwriteui.rc does not exist. [r14-xdg-update] ktexteditor_kdatatool does not exist. [r14-xdg-update] ark_part.rc does not exist. [r14-xdg-update] Updating Quick Launch applet. [r14-xdg-update] Quick Launch is not installed. [r14-xdg-update] Updating Quanta Plus plugins.rc. [r14-xdg-update] Quanta Plus plugins.rc does not exist. [r14-xdg-update] Updating Autostart files. [r14-xdg-update] Validating KDED services. [r14-xdg-update] Update sessions. [r14-xdg-update] Updating TDENewStuff providers and status. [r14-xdg-update] Renaming some configuration files and directories. [r14-xdg-update] Updating profile *.desktop files. On 2018-04-24 20:39:48 Kate Draven wrote: > OK try it again but as the user, not root. > Let me know how it goes. > > Cheers lad or lass, > > Kate > > > It looks like it worked (see below) but I logged out of the account > > and > > then > > > back in, and got the same thing. :-( > > > > Leslie

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Re: [trinity-users] Strange messages at startup for one account
by Kate Draven 25 Apr '18

25 Apr '18

> Hi, > On one account on my OpenSuSE Leap 42.3 system (the main account, of course), > I'm getting these messages after the login screen and before the desktop > appears: > > 1) > > The R14-xdg-update script has been run at least once. > > The script is not successfully updating. > > The script will run with each login until corrected. > > Please contact an administrator or take appropriate administrative action to > > correct the problem. > > The error code is 9. > > 2) > > Some Trinity profile R14 XDG compliance updates failed. > > Check applications-tdemenuedit.menu for '<filename>kde-' in > > /var/tmp/kdecache-leslie/r14-xdgupdate-validation-test-9.tct. > > 3) > > The R14-xdg-update script has been run at least once. > > The script is not successfully updating. > > The script will run with each login until corrected. > > Please contact an administrator or take appropriate administrative action to > > correct the problem. > > The error code is 9. > > Common failures include file and directory permissions. > > (These messages are displayed using xmessage, and can't be copied/pasted > since the desktop isn't active, so the above is my hand-copied version, which > has all the words, but not necessarily on the same lines.) > > So I looked into the indicated file, and indeed there are a plethora of lines > containing <filename>kde-... (see attached). Apparently there are 'file and > directory permissions' problems /somewhere./ I have looked at the > permissions of all files in ~/.kde and they look okay (but is owner rw- > sufficient?) I looked at the r14-xdg-update script, but the code is opaque > (at least to me). I tried renaming ~/.kde to something else but the problem > persists; also tried removing socket-dir and tmp-dir, but that doesn't help > either. The script contains this unhelpful comment: > > > # This script should be needed to run only once, but corner cases > > # and file/directory permissions could cause incomplete updates. > > # > > # TODO: How to handle environments where files/directories are locked > > # administratively or are owned by root and can't be updated. > > # The nominal validation checks in this script provide some notice > > # but no direct remedy. > > # > > # TODO: How to update profile directories not named $HOME/.trinity and > $TDEHOME > > # is not yet declared when running this script. > > I'm not at all sure where to look and what to look for beyond this. How can > I get past this irritating situation? > Hi Leslie As root, run r14-xdg-update When it asks you to continue say yes by pressing Y. Kate >

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