tde-users January 2021

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by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp

[Ooops, sent too soon ....] Hi all! I just found a problem on my T14 with TDE 14.0.10: Konqueror does not show previews of video files. It turned out that the package "mplayerthumbs-trinity" was missing. Isn't there a dependency that should pull in this package? Or is this package not used for preview videos? Anyhow, I cannot get previews of videos, despite the fact tha I think I have installed all relevant packages. So, does anybody know which packages are needed to get that working? Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

3 years, 11 months

Video preview in konqueror?

by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp

Hi all! I just found a problem on my T14 with TDE 14.0.10: Konqueror does not show previews of video files. It turned out that the package "mplayerthumbs-trinity" was missing. Isn't there a dependency that sould pull in this package? Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

3 years, 11 months

Re: debug installed TDE

by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp

Anno domini 2021 Fri, 22 Jan 21:45:02 +0900 Michele Calgaro scripsit: > On 2021/01/22 09:32 PM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > Ok, got it. Behaviour is still the same, but I got a menu entry to permanently delete an item in the context menu - that's fine. Anyway, where's the fun in having a pandora box and not opening it - especially now siche we have masks and vaczine ?:) > > Ok thanks for checking. Maybe an idea for the future would b eto hav a DE wise option to choose whether to use the > media:/ path or the real path, so people have a choice. That would be a real cool option :) > Btw, from desktop items, right click -> open system folder will open the actual path and will stay in it, if you need. Ok, found it. Looks like mediamanager does not start konqueror on 14.1. when automounting (worked just befor the upgrade). Yes, idealy on my system mediamanger would start konqueror with the system folder for that device. Hm ... there is a shortcut to what I want to do, I'm sure :) Nik > > Cheers > Michele > > -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

3 years, 11 months

debug installed TDE

by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp

Hi all! I'd like to get rid of system:/media/ and media:/ . My plan is to modify some tdeio libraries of my current TDE installation to do this, but this is where I hit a wall: Is there a way to get a minimal copy of code of the currently installed TDE - namely the tdeio part - build a modified version so that I can just copy the binaries over the current installed versions - without building and installing the whole TDE and installing it? Maybe somebody can put me on the right track here. Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

3 years, 11 months

how to force TDE colors in non-TDE apps?

by William Morder

I did try to accomplish this by going through the Trinity Control Center / Appearance / Colors, but nothing happens to my non-TDE apps, so far as I can tell. (Actually, I am only guessing, from what I remember; my TCC screen has been frozen now for a couple hours. See attachment.) Some of my apps refuse to change colors, even though they used to behave like I want (in Jessie, that is, before I upgraded to Devuan Beowulf). I seem to recall that E.Liddell, or maybe Nik, offered some css tricks to do something like this? The main thing is that I don't want to look at a white screen, but I prefer to keep my own color scheme, not to use one of those ready-made themes. Right now it is psi-plus that won't accept the color scheme that I used before the upgrade; it accepts some of the definitions, but will not change background colors. By the way, if I could get kopete to work again, that would be fine, too, but kopete-trinity lags behind other chat applications. Pidgin is okay, and I have others that I am trying out, but at present psi-plus works best for me ... except for the white background, which tends to be hard on my old eyes and gives me a headache. Any suggestions on how to fix the problem or for a workaround? Thanks for any help! Bill

3 years, 11 months

Re: Konqueror & FAT32

by BorgLabs - Kate Draven

> On Saturday 16 January 2021 09:46:12 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > Hi all! > > > > I just found that after my latest updates to 14.0.10 I lost the "Delete" > > funtionality in konqueror. When I do a right click on at file on a FAT32 > > usb thumbdrive, then the context menu pops up with the "Delete" entry > > greyed out. Pressing "<DEL>"-key consequently des not delete the file nor > > move it to the thrashcan. Pressing "<shift>+<DEL>" deletes the file. > > > > Does somebody else see this, too? > > > > Nik > > I just upgraded a couple days ago, and I don't have that problem. Everything > works the same as before. > > The problem, however, may reside in the flash drive itself, and the fat32 > filesystem. I've had problems with both flash drives and SD cards: sometimes > they mount and behave normally, sometimes not. Do you have the delete > function when you are using Konqueror with non-fat drives, such as your other > hard drives? > > You might dig up your konquerorrc file, where the delete function can be set > or unset. You might be able to override other changes by changing that file. > > Bill > ____________________________________________________ I need to use fat32 because I still have some itsinks clients (thankfully that's fading) Stock formatted usb and SD cards do exhibit problems like that in general. That's why I always format them with linux before use. I never have a problem after that. NTFS, when I have to use that crap, sometimes will. HFS doesn't give me much of a problem, less than NTFS more than fat32. Try clean formatting the drives before use and make use you chown to your user just in case. Kate

3 years, 11 months

Re: Konqueror & FAT32 --> system:/media/ is to blame

by BorgLabs - Kate Draven

> Anno domini 2021 Sun, 17 Jan 13:52:12 -0500 > BorgLabs - Kate Draven scripsit: > > On Sunday 17 January 2021, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > > Hi all! > > > > > > Anno domini 2021 Sat, 16 Jan 19:41:35 -0800 > > > > > > William Morder via tde-users scripsit: > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > The problem is that Linux systems in general seem to have a problem > > > > sometimes with mounting a flash drive or SD card, but only after they > > > > have been used in another device, such as a smartphone or a non-Linux > > > > system. > > > > > > > > I put a large music collection on a new SD card, for listening while I am > > > > outdoors walking, but when I went to change some of the items, now I find > > > > that my Linux system refuses to mount the drive. The same has happened > > > > with fat32 flash drives. > > > > > > > > This does not happen with other hard drives, such as an external hard > > > > drive that is formatted NTFS; only with fat32 flash drives or (I forget > > > > the filesystem here) SD cards. > > > > > > > > Also I believe that smartphones can really mess up the data on SD cards, > > > > as I had a lot of weirdness there. For example: a folder for one artist > > > > was instead filled with music from an entirely different artist. This > > > > could not have been a mistake on my part, as I have the originals, all > > > > tidy and organized, and the contents of the flash drive were first > > > > organized on a folder that resides in my desktop computer. Thus all I > > > > need to do is copy the contents of that folder to my SD card. > > > > > > > > It is only when I tried to copy the contents of that SD card to another > > > > location, then suddenly everything got messed up. > > > > > > > > So I believe that Kate might be onto something there, that formatting > > > > with Linux first could eliminate some of that mess. > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > ____________________________________________________ > > > > tde-users mailing list -- users(a)trinitydesktop.org > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)trinitydesktop.org > > > > Web mail archive available at > > > > https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@trinitydes > > > >ktop.org > > > > > > Looks like this is complints about FAT32 are not the cause of my > > > observations. Please see the attached screenshot: upper half of windows > > > uses system:/media/sdb and shows the describes malfuncions (i.e.: <del> not > > > working, no autorefresh), the lower half shows the very device but where > > > it's mounted in the filesystem as /media/toshiba and there it works as > > > expected (i.e.: <del> working and autorefresh working). > > > > > > So this is definitly a TDE problem. Is there a way to get rid of > > > "system:/media/" and just use the real mountpoint instead? > > > > > > Nik > > > > Ok I just checked out all the media* options and delete appears in all of > > them. What distro are you using. Try using a live CD and see what happens. > > Which mount helper do you use? I have udisks2 here. I think I did not see that problem when I had pmount (but that had a different set of problems which I dislike more than that missing <del>. > > Nik > > > I don't have pmount installed. I've attached a img of all the "mount" related items I have installed. Kate

3 years, 11 months

Re: Konqueror & FAT32

by BorgLabs - Kate Draven

> On Saturday 16 January 2021 11:19:51 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote: > > > On Saturday 16 January 2021 09:46:12 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > > > Hi all! > > > > > > > > I just found that after my latest updates to 14.0.10 I lost the > > > > "Delete" funtionality in konqueror. When I do a right click on at file > > > > on a FAT32 usb thumbdrive, then the context menu pops up with the > > > > "Delete" entry greyed out. Pressing "<DEL>"-key consequently des not > > > > delete the file nor move it to the thrashcan. Pressing "<shift>+<DEL>" > > > > deletes the file. > > > > > > > > Does somebody else see this, too? > > > > > > > > Nik > > > > > > I just upgraded a couple days ago, and I don't have that problem. > > > Everything works the same as before. > > > > > > The problem, however, may reside in the flash drive itself, and the fat32 > > > filesystem. I've had problems with both flash drives and SD cards: > > > sometimes they mount and behave normally, sometimes not. Do you have the > > > delete function when you are using Konqueror with non-fat drives, such as > > > your > > > > other > > > > > hard drives? > > > > > > You might dig up your konquerorrc file, where the delete function can be > > > set or unset. You might be able to override other changes by changing > > > that file. > > > > > > Bill > > > ____________________________________________________ > > > > I need to use fat32 because I still have some itsinks clients (thankfully > > that's fading) > > > > Stock formatted usb and SD cards do exhibit problems like that in general. > > That's why I always format them with linux before use. I never have a > > problem after that. > > > > NTFS, when I have to use that crap, sometimes will. HFS doesn't give me > > much of a problem, less than NTFS more than fat32. > > > > Try clean formatting the drives before use and make use you chown to your > > user just in case. > > > > Kate > > Except ... maybe users need to use those items with other devices that do not > read Linux filesystems? e.g., SD cards in smartphones, or flash drives to be > used with other computers. Maybe, the unfortunate user is forced by job or > circumstances to take those flash drives or SD cards and use them on > [*SHUDDER of horror*] Windozes or Rotten Apples? In such cases, fat32 is read > by all of them; ext3 or ext4, not. > > 'Twould be nice if Linux could handle fat32 sometimes without having to format > it to a Linux filesystem. > > :-/ > > Bill You misunderstood. Format the drives, using linux, TO fat32. They will work on windows and apple [*SHUDDER of horror*] etc. It's just that linux does a "clean" format with no empty spaces or oddities. Kate

3 years, 11 months

Re: [users] Mailing list etiquette [meta] top posting? [Correction]

by J Leslie Turriff

On 2021-01-16 22:00:56 Michele Calgaro via tde-users wrote: > On 2021/01/17 12:28 PM, William Morder via tde-users wrote: > > How about we just dispense with top posting altogether? > > I was about to ask the same question. > What are the advantages of bottom posting? I can't fiugre them out to be > honest. I use top posting daily everywhere other than TDE and I always find > annoying having to scroll down to read a post in TDE. If there is a clear > benefit for bottom posting, I will understand. But currently I am > struggling to see the point of it. > > Cheers > Michele Oops! My first message had instructions for setting a global template. To set a folder-specific template, do this: If one is using kmail, one can create a custom template for the TDE mailing lists so that all posts going there default to bottom-posting. Right-click on the folder and select Properties. Click on the Templates tab. Click on Reply to All / Reply to List; type the following: | %REM="Reply to TDE Lists template"%- | On %ODATEEN %OTIMELONGEN %OFROMNAME wrote: | %QUOTE | %CURSOR | | <Your Name> | -- Click on Reply to Sender and repeat. (Replace trailing EN if desired with a different language code, and <Your Name> as appropriate.) Leslie --

3 years, 11 months

Mailing list etiquette [meta] [was Re: Re: Konqueror & FAT32]

by Steven D'Aprano

Just a gentle reminder about bottom-quoting without trimming, which combines all the disadvantages of top-posting with none of the advantages. The message I replied to included *nine* levels of quoting, approximately 200 lines worth, followed by a single response at the very end. I had to page through six screens to get to the author's comment. Please everyone, remember to trim your quoting to managable levels, and to use inline posting between paragraphs. (Some people call that "bottom posting" as you respond at the bottom of each paragraph, but that term is more correctly used for adding your own text at the very bottom of the entire quoted message. Which is worse for the reader than top-posting.) (I've done my best to remove any threading information from this email, as I don't want to point the finger at any specific person.) -- Steve

3 years, 11 months

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