> On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 07:19:08PM -0500, BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
>
> > Big Daddy's initial install is about 10 or less GBs.
>
> Who or what is Big Daddy?
>
> > It's likely the differences you're seeing are do to some form of
> > customization? It may be the faster one has some kind of boot
> > streamlining.
>
> Time for boot up (power on to appearance of the wall paper where you can
> click to get a login prompt) is about the same on both machines.
>
> It's the login itself which is wildly different: virtually instantaneous
> on one machine, long enough for me to make a coffee on the other.
>
> > If so I'd like to know. Could be handy.
> >
> > Investigate, the collect requires this information!
>
> I doubt I will be able to do much investigation, they are work machines,
> I have limited access to them (no more than two days per week) and
> neither the time nor inclination to spend hours dissecting the fine
> details of their configurations.
>
> But if I do happen to find out anything useful, I'll let you know.
>
>
> --
> Steve
> ____________________________________________________
Big Daddy PCLOS http://trinity.mypclinuxos.com/
This is Alistair Izzard's Trinity Desktop roll of PC Linux OS
It's a great distro, give it a go.
The diff in login could be a matter of security. One may have more steps.
So it's likely not related to the machine or OS.
Any info would be useful. I, sadly, know a few windows users.
Yes, I know, I shouldn't be associating with those kind of people. Still they
are good people.
Kate
> On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 04:49:13PM -0500, BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
>
> > PS 30 secs or less on mine as well. Interesting thing, a mate demanded a
side
> > by side (well using the same computer, mine) of win10 boot up vs Ali's
roll
> > of PCLOS aka Big Daddy. BD booted, in less then 30s, to desktop where it
took
> > win10 an entire 2.4 mins average to boot to desktop. It also took up
massive
> > amounts of initial storage space. He's now only using win10 for gaming.
He's
> > now "one of us!"
>
> (Aside: depending on how you are comparing storage requirements, some of
> that space may be a complete full backup of the Windows install.)
>
> Windows boot and login times are weird. I work part-time for two
> companies that both provide me with a Win10 PC to use. One of them boots
> up in about a minute, and logs on instantly. The other also boots up in
> about a minute, but takes about three minutes to log in, and even then
> there's obviously still stuff going on in the background because
> performance is pretty horrible for another two or three minutes.
>
> The two machines are roughly equivalent in hardware specs, and once the
> second one settles down, performance is more or less the same as the
> first.
>
>
> --
> Steve
> ____________________________________________________
Hi Steve, I can understand the differences.
This comparison didn't allow for a win10 install backup. This was purely just
the OS and we removed all background nonesense, disable all unneeded
services, disable updates (the comparison was done with and without updates,
no real dif). We used a custom install (and stock). Stock was almost 32GBs.
We were able to reduce it to about 21GBs. Big Daddy's initial install is
about 10 or less GBs. Fully loaded or what I can the insane package install
is 48.6GBs.
The test was done on an i9 18 core Intel with 256 gigs of ram, 1300 watt PS,
Seagate 1TB Barracuda Pro SSD. We disconnected all hard drives save for the
OS/boot drive.
The best boot to desktop time we were able to get was 2 mins some odd secs
with minimal background items loading. Just what was needed.
Best for Big Daddy was 28 secs average. With LOTS extra of stuff loading.
We tried to give win10 all the chances in the world.
It's likely the differences you're seeing are do to some form of
customization? It may be the faster one has some kind of boot streamlining.
If so I'd like to know. Could be handy.
Investigate, the collect requires this information!
Thanks for the info.
Cheers,
Kate
What’s the key combination (like ALT-TAB) for cycling just through the
instances of the in focus application?
ALT-TAB cycles through all applications, CTRL-TAB cycles through desktops, and
I just randomly hit a combination that only showed one application’s windows
(Pale Moon) but can’t re-create what I hit.
Thanks,
Michael
> Anno domini 2021 Sat, 16 Jan 16:17:10 -0500
> BorgLabs - Kate Draven scripsit:
> > > As usual, the moment you press "send" you find the solution :)
> > >
> > > Anno domini 2021 Sat, 16 Jan 21:46:46 +0100
> > > Dr. Nikolaus Klepp scripsit:
> > > > Hi all!
> > > >
> > > > Anno domini 2021 Sat, 16 Jan 14:57:00 -0500
> > > > BorgLabs - Kate Draven scripsit:
> > > > > > On Saturday 16 January 2021 11:19:51 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Saturday 16 January 2021 09:46:12 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hi all!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I just found that after my latest updates to 14.0.10 I lost
the
> > > > > > > > > "Delete" funtionality in konqueror. When I do a right click
on
> > at file
> > > > > > > > > on a FAT32 usb thumbdrive, then the context menu pops up
with
> > the
> > > > > > > > > "Delete" entry greyed out. Pressing "<DEL>"-key consequently
des
> > not
> > > > > > > > > delete the file nor move it to the thrashcan.
> > Pressing "<shift>+<DEL>"
> > > > > > > > > deletes the file.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Does somebody else see this, too?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Nik
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I just upgraded a couple days ago, and I don't have that
problem.
> > > > > > > > Everything works the same as before.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The problem, however, may reside in the flash drive itself,
and
> > the
> > > > > fat32
> > > > > > > > filesystem. I've had problems with both flash drives and SD
cards:
> > > > > > > > sometimes they mount and behave normally, sometimes not. Do
you
> > have the
> > > > > > > > delete function when you are using Konqueror with non-fat
drives,
> > such
> > > > > as
> > > > > > > > your
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > other
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > hard drives?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You might dig up your konquerorrc file, where the delete
function
> > can be
> > > > > > > > set or unset. You might be able to override other changes by
> > changing
> > > > > > > > that file.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Bill
> > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I need to use fat32 because I still have some itsinks clients
> > (thankfully
> > > > > > > that's fading)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Stock formatted usb and SD cards do exhibit problems like that
in
> > general.
> > > > > > > That's why I always format them with linux before use. I never
have
> > a
> > > > > > > problem after that.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > NTFS, when I have to use that crap, sometimes will. HFS doesn't
give
> > me
> > > > > > > much of a problem, less than NTFS more than fat32.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Try clean formatting the drives before use and make use you
chown to
> > your
> > > > > > > user just in case.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kate
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Except ... maybe users need to use those items with other devices
that
> > do
> > > > > not
> > > > > > read Linux filesystems? e.g., SD cards in smartphones, or flash
drives
> > to be
> > > > > > used with other computers. Maybe, the unfortunate user is forced
by
> > job or
> > > > > > circumstances to take those flash drives or SD cards and use them
on
> > > > > > [*SHUDDER of horror*] Windozes or Rotten Apples? In such cases,
fat32
> > is
> > > > > read
> > > > > > by all of them; ext3 or ext4, not.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 'Twould be nice if Linux could handle fat32 sometimes without
having
> > to
> > > > > format
> > > > > > it to a Linux filesystem.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > :-/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bill
> > > > > You misunderstood. Format the drives, using linux, TO fat32. They
will
> > work on
> > > > > windows and apple [*SHUDDER of horror*] etc. It's just that linux
does
> > > > > a "clean" format with no empty spaces or oddities.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kate
> > > > > ____________________________________________________
> > > > > tde-users mailing list -- users(a)trinitydesktop.org
> > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)trinitydesktop.org
> > > > > Web mail archive available at
> >
https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@trinitydeskt…
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sorry to say, neither does work. I tried it as "superdisk" or with one
> > partion, the result is the same - "Move to trash" is greyed out and <DEL>
> > does not work (<shift>+<DEL> does work).
> > > >
> > > > I tried ext4, too, with the very same behaviour, so it's not
filesystem
> > specific. File creation works without problems.
> > > >
> > > > What's also strange: the konqeror is not notified about changes on
that
> > filesystem, e.g. if I create a new file it is not visible in konqueror
till I
> > press "F5".
> > > >
> > > > Oh, I have "udisks2" as helper.
> > >
> > >
> > > Ok, in konqueror settings, tab "behaviour" --> "show delete entry (no
> > trash)". if this is checked, I get a "Delete" entry in the context menu.
This
> > still does not enable "<del>"-key, but for the "usual" user it's ok.
> > >
> > > Interestingly I cannot identify the corresponding setting
> > in .trinity/share/config/konquerorrc
> > >
> > > Nik
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Nik
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also
sharing
> > with the NSA, CIA ...
> > > ____________________________________________________
> > " What's also strange: the konqeror is not notified about changes on that
> > filesystem, e.g. if I create a new file it is not visible in konqueror
till I
> > press "F5"."
> >
> > When is the last time you rebooted X or the entire computer?
> > I'd reboot the computer. The F5 thing happens after a large update (at
least
> > in my exp). Try a reboot.
>
> I power it off when not used and turn it on when I need it (bootime <30sec),
so it' up just some hours.
>
> Nik
>
> >
> > Kate
> > ____________________________________________________
Rats.
Did you try root and a freshly made user to see if it still does it?
Also, do you have another machine? Try it on there.
Kate
PS 30 secs or less on mine as well. Interesting thing, a mate demanded a side
by side (well using the same computer, mine) of win10 boot up vs Ali's roll
of PCLOS aka Big Daddy. BD booted, in less then 30s, to desktop where it took
win10 an entire 2.4 mins average to boot to desktop. It also took up massive
amounts of initial storage space. He's now only using win10 for gaming. He's
now "one of us!"
> On 2021-01-16 15:17:10 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
> > > Ok, in konqueror settings, tab "behaviour" --> "show delete entry (no
> >
> > trash)". if this is checked, I get a "Delete" entry in the context menu.
> > This still does not enable "<del>"-key, but for the "usual" user it's ok.
>
> If you like, you can also add a Delete button to Konqueror's Main toolbar.
>
> Leslie
> --
>
Oh that is definitely a good idea. I have that as well.
Well spotted Leslie. Can't believe I didn't think to suggest it.
I'm tired lol.
Kate
> As usual, the moment you press "send" you find the solution :)
>
> Anno domini 2021 Sat, 16 Jan 21:46:46 +0100
> Dr. Nikolaus Klepp scripsit:
> > Hi all!
> >
> > Anno domini 2021 Sat, 16 Jan 14:57:00 -0500
> > BorgLabs - Kate Draven scripsit:
> > > > On Saturday 16 January 2021 11:19:51 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
> > > > > > On Saturday 16 January 2021 09:46:12 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi all!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I just found that after my latest updates to 14.0.10 I lost the
> > > > > > > "Delete" funtionality in konqueror. When I do a right click on
at file
> > > > > > > on a FAT32 usb thumbdrive, then the context menu pops up with
the
> > > > > > > "Delete" entry greyed out. Pressing "<DEL>"-key consequently des
not
> > > > > > > delete the file nor move it to the thrashcan.
Pressing "<shift>+<DEL>"
> > > > > > > deletes the file.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Does somebody else see this, too?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nik
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just upgraded a couple days ago, and I don't have that problem.
> > > > > > Everything works the same as before.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The problem, however, may reside in the flash drive itself, and
the
> > > fat32
> > > > > > filesystem. I've had problems with both flash drives and SD cards:
> > > > > > sometimes they mount and behave normally, sometimes not. Do you
have the
> > > > > > delete function when you are using Konqueror with non-fat drives,
such
> > > as
> > > > > > your
> > > > >
> > > > > other
> > > > >
> > > > > > hard drives?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You might dig up your konquerorrc file, where the delete function
can be
> > > > > > set or unset. You might be able to override other changes by
changing
> > > > > > that file.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bill
> > > > > > ____________________________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > I need to use fat32 because I still have some itsinks clients
(thankfully
> > > > > that's fading)
> > > > >
> > > > > Stock formatted usb and SD cards do exhibit problems like that in
general.
> > > > > That's why I always format them with linux before use. I never have
a
> > > > > problem after that.
> > > > >
> > > > > NTFS, when I have to use that crap, sometimes will. HFS doesn't give
me
> > > > > much of a problem, less than NTFS more than fat32.
> > > > >
> > > > > Try clean formatting the drives before use and make use you chown to
your
> > > > > user just in case.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kate
> > > >
> > > > Except ... maybe users need to use those items with other devices that
do
> > > not
> > > > read Linux filesystems? e.g., SD cards in smartphones, or flash drives
to be
> > > > used with other computers. Maybe, the unfortunate user is forced by
job or
> > > > circumstances to take those flash drives or SD cards and use them on
> > > > [*SHUDDER of horror*] Windozes or Rotten Apples? In such cases, fat32
is
> > > read
> > > > by all of them; ext3 or ext4, not.
> > > >
> > > > 'Twould be nice if Linux could handle fat32 sometimes without having
to
> > > format
> > > > it to a Linux filesystem.
> > > >
> > > > :-/
> > > >
> > > > Bill
> > > You misunderstood. Format the drives, using linux, TO fat32. They will
work on
> > > windows and apple [*SHUDDER of horror*] etc. It's just that linux does
> > > a "clean" format with no empty spaces or oddities.
> > >
> > > Kate
> > > ____________________________________________________
> > > tde-users mailing list -- users(a)trinitydesktop.org
> > > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)trinitydesktop.org
> > > Web mail archive available at
https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@trinitydeskt…
> > >
> >
> > Sorry to say, neither does work. I tried it as "superdisk" or with one
partion, the result is the same - "Move to trash" is greyed out and <DEL>
does not work (<shift>+<DEL> does work).
> >
> > I tried ext4, too, with the very same behaviour, so it's not filesystem
specific. File creation works without problems.
> >
> > What's also strange: the konqeror is not notified about changes on that
filesystem, e.g. if I create a new file it is not visible in konqueror till I
press "F5".
> >
> > Oh, I have "udisks2" as helper.
>
>
> Ok, in konqueror settings, tab "behaviour" --> "show delete entry (no
trash)". if this is checked, I get a "Delete" entry in the context menu. This
still does not enable "<del>"-key, but for the "usual" user it's ok.
>
> Interestingly I cannot identify the corresponding setting
in .trinity/share/config/konquerorrc
>
> Nik
>
>
> >
> > Nik
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing
with the NSA, CIA ...
> ____________________________________________________
" What's also strange: the konqeror is not notified about changes on that
filesystem, e.g. if I create a new file it is not visible in konqueror till I
press "F5"."
When is the last time you rebooted X or the entire computer?
I'd reboot the computer. The F5 thing happens after a large update (at least
in my exp). Try a reboot.
Kate
> Hi all!
>
> Anno domini 2021 Sat, 16 Jan 14:57:00 -0500
> BorgLabs - Kate Draven scripsit:
> > > On Saturday 16 January 2021 11:19:51 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday 16 January 2021 09:46:12 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > > > > > Hi all!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just found that after my latest updates to 14.0.10 I lost the
> > > > > > "Delete" funtionality in konqueror. When I do a right click on at
file
> > > > > > on a FAT32 usb thumbdrive, then the context menu pops up with the
> > > > > > "Delete" entry greyed out. Pressing "<DEL>"-key consequently des
not
> > > > > > delete the file nor move it to the thrashcan.
Pressing "<shift>+<DEL>"
> > > > > > deletes the file.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does somebody else see this, too?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nik
> > > > >
> > > > > I just upgraded a couple days ago, and I don't have that problem.
> > > > > Everything works the same as before.
> > > > >
> > > > > The problem, however, may reside in the flash drive itself, and the
> > fat32
> > > > > filesystem. I've had problems with both flash drives and SD cards:
> > > > > sometimes they mount and behave normally, sometimes not. Do you have
the
> > > > > delete function when you are using Konqueror with non-fat drives,
such
> > as
> > > > > your
> > > >
> > > > other
> > > >
> > > > > hard drives?
> > > > >
> > > > > You might dig up your konquerorrc file, where the delete function
can be
> > > > > set or unset. You might be able to override other changes by
changing
> > > > > that file.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bill
> > > > > ____________________________________________________
> > > >
> > > > I need to use fat32 because I still have some itsinks clients
(thankfully
> > > > that's fading)
> > > >
> > > > Stock formatted usb and SD cards do exhibit problems like that in
general.
> > > > That's why I always format them with linux before use. I never have a
> > > > problem after that.
> > > >
> > > > NTFS, when I have to use that crap, sometimes will. HFS doesn't give
me
> > > > much of a problem, less than NTFS more than fat32.
> > > >
> > > > Try clean formatting the drives before use and make use you chown to
your
> > > > user just in case.
> > > >
> > > > Kate
> > >
> > > Except ... maybe users need to use those items with other devices that
do
> > not
> > > read Linux filesystems? e.g., SD cards in smartphones, or flash drives
to be
> > > used with other computers. Maybe, the unfortunate user is forced by job
or
> > > circumstances to take those flash drives or SD cards and use them on
> > > [*SHUDDER of horror*] Windozes or Rotten Apples? In such cases, fat32 is
> > read
> > > by all of them; ext3 or ext4, not.
> > >
> > > 'Twould be nice if Linux could handle fat32 sometimes without having to
> > format
> > > it to a Linux filesystem.
> > >
> > > :-/
> > >
> > > Bill
> > You misunderstood. Format the drives, using linux, TO fat32. They will
work on
> > windows and apple [*SHUDDER of horror*] etc. It's just that linux does
> > a "clean" format with no empty spaces or oddities.
> >
> > Kate
> > ____________________________________________________
> > tde-users mailing list -- users(a)trinitydesktop.org
> > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)trinitydesktop.org
> > Web mail archive available at
https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@trinitydeskt…
> >
>
> Sorry to say, neither does work. I tried it as "superdisk" or with one
partion, the result is the same - "Move to trash" is greyed out and <DEL>
does not work (<shift>+<DEL> does work).
>
> I tried ext4, too, with the very same behaviour, so it's not filesystem
specific. File creation works without problems.
>
> What's also strange: the konqeror is not notified about changes on that
filesystem, e.g. if I create a new file it is not visible in konqueror till I
press "F5".
>
> Oh, I have "udisks2" as helper.
>
> Nik
>
>
> --
> Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing
with the NSA, CIA ...
> ____________________________________________________
Ok Doc,
Try this. See if it's still greyed out as root or another freshly created
user.
Maybe a weird perms problem. See it before. Drives me bloody mad.
Kate
Good afternoon from Spain,
Recently, a friend send me a link to an issue in the Nix packages
repositories on GitHub.
It seems someone proposed to the maintainers to package TDE in Nix.
The link to the issue is https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/108967.
--
Regards,
Echedey, Lopez Romero
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Hi all!
I just found that after my latest updates to 14.0.10 I lost the "Delete" funtionality in konqueror. When I do a right click on at file on a FAT32 usb thumbdrive, then the context menu pops up with the "Delete" entry greyed out. Pressing "<DEL>"-key consequently des not delete the file nor move it to the thrashcan. Pressing "<shift>+<DEL>" deletes the file.
Does somebody else see this, too?
Nik
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